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If you’re an iPhone Air hater or someone who looks down on iPhone Air users, this thread is for you. Let’s have a constructive discussion about your feelings and thoughts and why you feel this way.
 
I would like to understand this too. I’m enjoying using my Air so far….. only gripe is the battery even with the MagSafe battery but overall I’m happy to have something “different” this year!
 
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I am a 16 pro owner and yes been tempted with the air but for now still on the fence if I should keep the pro or sell it. Anyways I am waiting the haters to come on this thread 🙂
 
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I hear the Air overheats quite easily. As someone who wants to make use of the Pro chipset, I can’t pick a device that’ll thermal throttle… looks like it’ll be the Pro for me.

I do like the look of the Air though.
 
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It doesn’t need to be a pro to play games!

Yeah people really lose sight of what the actual performance is. The iPhone Air outperforms my 15PM in sustained performance in 20 minute stress tests. Was the iPhone 15 Pro Max incapable of gaming? No.

A Mac example - the M2 Air had worse throttling than the M1, and people complained - but what they were missing was the M2 fully throttled still performed better than an M1 that wasn't throttling at all.

People see the word "throttle" and they just stop thinking.

People also lost sight of what "overheating" actually means. Overheating doesn't mean "the device feels hot to me", it means "the device shut down to prevent itself from thermal damage".
 
If you’re an iPhone Air hater or someone who looks down on iPhone Air users, this thread is for you. Let’s have a constructive discussion about your feelings and thoughts and why you feel this way.
I am not an iPhone Air hater. I do not look down on people who use it. I like a lot about the Air.

I believe having a single speaker, in the earpiece no less, is truly terrible. If you can live with it, great. But it's a massive concession.

I think a single camera also stinks at this price point.

I think the S25 Edge is far more impressive.

With that established, I am very happy the Air exists and look forward to future iterations where Apple will address its current shortcomings.
 
I would like to understand this too. I’m enjoying using my Air so far….. only gripe is the battery even with the MagSafe battery but overall I’m happy to have something “different” this year!
I don’t understand why one would pay $1100 for the Air + battery pack when you can buy the Pro Max for $1200? I get that people won’t always need battery life, but you’re getting A LOT more phone for the money in the Pro Max.

Not hating on the Air…different strokes…it’s a cool gadget for sure just not for me.
 
I hear the Air overheats quite easily. As someone who wants to make use of the Pro chipset, I can’t pick a device that’ll thermal throttle… looks like it’ll be the Pro for me.

I do like the look of the Air though.
ive been using my air for 2 weeks and hasn't overheated once on me
 
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I am not an iPhone Air hater. I do not look down on people who use it. I like a lot about the Air.

I believe having a single speaker, in the earpiece no less, is truly terrible. If you can live with it, great. But it's a massive concession.

I think a single camera also stinks at this price point.

I think the S25 Edge is far more impressive.

With that established, I am very happy the Air exists and look forward to future iterations where Apple will address its current shortcomings.
omg the speaker isn't that bad sure its not like the stereo speakers like on the pros but its not bad, and not many use there phone for music without airpods anyways at least i don't
 
I don’t understand why one would pay $1100 for the Air + battery pack when you can buy the Pro Max for $1200? I get that people won’t always need battery life, but you’re getting A LOT more phone for the money in the Pro Max.

Not hating on the Air…different strokes…it’s a cool gadget for sure just not for me.
theres people that don't want a heavy thick and bulky phone and others like me who hate the design of the pro's so much due to the aluminum that would rather use the air due to being more aesthetically pleasing and easier to use with one hand.
 
I think it looks ugly as hell with the stupid camera bump. It sacrifices too much just for the sake of being thin. Silly looking camera bump, lower quality camera, lower battery capacity, lower quality speaker.

All for what? Oh it’s the thinnest iPhone ever…as long as you ignore the camera bump that sticks out like a swollen sore thumb.

And then there are all the fanboys who pretend it is the best iPhone ever. It’s just annoying. It goes both ways. You have people hating on the Air and you have people hating on the Pro.

Nobody wants the Air. Maybe the people gushing about it are just having buyers remorse (they’ll no doubt come in here and say oh no not me! I looove my Air!).

The Air is a disappointment. Nobody asked for it. People are saving money and getting the standard iPhone 17 or spending a little bit more and getting the full iPhone experience with the best cameras, best performance, best battery life, stereo speakers, etc.

The way things are going it looks like Apple will scrap the Air or at least give it a redesign.
 
I know. The Air does overheat and throttle under sustained load though.

The base 17 is slightly more powerful than the 16 Pro so I will consider that phone also.

Any phone throttles under load, it has just been how we design CPUs/GPUs for a long time now. The Air still seems to outperform the old Pros under sustained loads so unless they were limiting you it should be no problem.

I for one wasn’t limited by my 16 Pro Max so the Air works as good for me.
 
I don’t like the orange Pro but c’mon… the most childish “fisherprice” iPhone ever?

I’d say that goes to the iPhone 5C and XR line up. There have been some silly childish colors for more recent phones too.
 
Any phone throttles under load, it has just been how we design CPUs/GPUs for a long time now. The Air still seems to outperform the old Pros under sustained loads so unless they were limiting you it should be no problem.

I for one wasn’t limited by my 16 Pro Max so the Air works as good for me.
Depends on your use case. If you’re a heavy video editor or if you play AAA games, such as Resident Evil, Assassin’s Creed and Death Stranding, etc… you’ll come across thermal limitations rather quickly on the Air.
 
Depends on your use case. If you’re a heavy video editor or if you play AAA games, such as Resident Evil, Assassin’s Creed and Death Stranding, etc… you’ll come across thermal limitations rather quickly on the Air.

As I said, same goes for the 17 Pros, they also throttle because we design CPUs to boost high and throttle under sustained loads. But the sustained performance of the Air in games still seem to score higher than the 16 Pros.
 
As I said, same goes for the 17 Pros, they also throttle because we design CPUs to boost high and throttle under sustained loads. But the sustained performance of the Air in games still seem to score higher than the 16 Pros.
Yes, all phones throttle however, under a sustained load, the Air down-clocks harder than the Pro resulting is poorer overall performance.

It’s still impressive that the Air pushes 16 Pro numbers. It’s on a par with the iPhone 17 in that regard.
 
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I don’t understand why one would pay $1100 for the Air + battery pack when you can buy the Pro Max for $1200? I get that people won’t always need battery life, but you’re getting A LOT more phone for the money in the Pro Max.

Not hating on the Air…different strokes…it’s a cool gadget for sure just not for me.
You're also getting a lot more bulk which kind of defeats the purpose.
 
Previously, if you wanted the best iPhone, you'd buy the Pro Max (I had a 13 PM) and you wouldn't have to think about anything else. With that model, you had the best possible everything: appearance, materials, screen, battery, cameras, etc.

This year... With the Pro Max, you have the same screen as the rest of this year's iPhones. And the screen is one of the most most important elements.

In adittion, you get aluminum, which until now was widely considered the entry-level material.

And if all this were not enough, you have a Pro Max with the most "controversial" look (so to speak).


And there appears the iPhone Air... same screen, titanium and a different/new and elegant look.


These are three key and exclusive elements that Pro/Pro Max users have lost. And as childish and absurd as it may sound, this is pissing off a lot of people.
 
Previously, if you wanted the best iPhone, you'd buy the Pro Max (I had a 13 PM) and you wouldn't have to think about anything else. With that model, you had the best possible everything: appearance, materials, screen, battery, cameras, etc.

This year... With the Pro Max, you have the same screen as the rest of this year's iPhones. And the screen is one of the most most important elements.

In adittion, you get aluminum, which until now was widely considered the entry-level material.

And if all this were not enough, you have a Pro Max with the most "controversial" look (so to speak).


And there appears the iPhone Air... same screen, titanium and a different/new and elegant look.


These are three key and exclusive elements that Pro/Pro Max users have lost. And as childish and absurd as it may sound, this is pissing off a lot of people.
Too many models is the problem. Apple need to go back to the days of just making the best iPhone they can make and calling it iPhone.
 
Too many models is the problem. Apple need to go back to the days of just making the best iPhone they can make and calling it iPhone.
I think is great there are many options.

I bought the Air and I'd only consider the Pro Max if the Air didn't exist. In fact, if it weren't for the Air, I would have easily stuck with my 13 Pro Max.
 
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