Why do people give their phone/tablet/computer far to much room in their lives

[Phonephreak]

I have noticed that many people seem to give their phone/tablet/computer far to much room in their lives. It’s a tool. I love my iPhone iPad and Apple Watch. But I don’t hate other phones. I really don’t give them much though. I think the note 8 is a nice looking phone. I’m just invested in the Apple ecosystem and happy being in it.

The way Apple fans defend Apple and trash android is insane. Android fans do the same thing. Defend android, trash Apple. Who CARES it’s a pocket computer. Use the one you like.

I admit one of the biggest reasons I come around here is for the entertainment. The bickering about whose phone is better. Who is harvesting data and who’s not. Google sucks. Apple sucks. It never ends.

 

[TMRJIJ]

That’s a part of life. People will always defend their brand, team, and preference in order to justify they made the right choice. It’s not just Apple vs. Google, it’s PlayStation vs Xbox, Redskins vs Cowboys, Democrats vs Republicans, etc.

 

[Phonephreak]

I get what your saying. It seems to go deeper in this aspect though. A company sues Apple and instantly that said company is the enemy. When Apple sues someone its always the right thing to do. They are being wronged. Some apple fans believe that they are personally being wronged. This works both ways

 

[Tarek]

I myself have been using both operating systems simultaneously ever since the iPhone 3G and every model afterwards. I recently gave away my iPhone 6 and I'm very happy with my Galaxy S8 as my primary phone, and being able to use two sim cards in one device has really solved a big issue for me.

I cannot truly say which is better because they're a lot different and suit different tastes. My entire family uses iPhones because they've grown accustomed to it and they're happy in the Apple ecosystem, as you said, and that doesn't mean that they hate Android because all of them, except for my father, are actually previous Android owners.

I think it just comes down to taste and preference when it comes to the actual device rather than the operating system nowadays. Although they're different, they seem to have a lot of similarities and commonalities that the decision should be based on the actual device rather than the OS.

I've been thinking about upgrading to the Galaxy Note 8 but I don't know if I'll be comfortable carrying around a phone that huge. Sure, the larger screen is nice because my vision isn't the best and it'll make things more clear, but at the same time it's a big, heavy device compared to my Galaxy S8.

In short, the iOS vs. Android debate will probably never end because it's a competition where two giants of the industry, Apple and Samsung, are trying to innovate and take over, and I must say that this competition is beneficial for us.

@TMRJIJ You're absolutely right about the console systems debate. I've always had both a PS3 and a Xbox 360 since they came out and I found myself using both because each of them has its own exclusives. When the newer generation devices came out, though, I decided to buy the PS4 because all my friends have it, so there wasn't much of a choice if I wanted to play online with them. I've been recently thinking about buying a slightly used Xbox One with Forza Motorsport because I absolutely love that game, and I want to invest in a decent racing wheel for both systems, but I'm trying to save up some money first.

 

[USAFA2008]

I have noticed that many people seem to give their phone/tablet/computer far to much room in their lives. It’s a tool. I love my iPhone iPad and Apple Watch. But I don’t hate other phones. I really don’t give them much though. I think the note 8 is a nice looking phone. I’m just invested in the Apple ecosystem and happy being in it.

The way Apple fans defend Apple and trash android is insane. Android fans do the same thing. Defend android, trash Apple. Who CARES it’s a pocket computer. Use the one you like.

I admit one of the biggest reasons I come around here is for the entertainment. The bickering about whose phone is better. Who is harvesting data and who’s not. Google sucks. Apple sucks. It never ends.

I have a few Samsung devices so I hang out on Android forums as well. It seems like iOS users dislike Android more than Android users dislike iOS.

I get what your saying. It seems to go deeper in this aspect though. A company sues Apple and instantly that said company is the enemy. When Apple sues someone its always the right thing to do. They are being wronged. Some apple fans believe that they are personally being wronged. This works both ways

The hypocrisy in that is obvious.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Well I've never used Android and don't plan to.
Do I hate them or Android fanboys?

Not at all. It's just a choice. You choose and use what works for you. Everyone is different.
I don't care what my neighbour drives/watches/uses.
Let people make their own choices.

 

[Phonephreak]

Exactly. Use what you want.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I have noticed that many people seem to give their phone/tablet/computer far to much room in their lives. It’s a tool. I love my iPhone iPad and Apple Watch. But I don’t hate other phones. I really don’t give them much though. I think the note 8 is a nice looking phone. I’m just invested in the Apple ecosystem and happy being in it.

The way Apple fans defend Apple and trash android is insane. Android fans do the same thing. Defend android, trash Apple. Who CARES it’s a pocket computer. Use the one you like.

I admit one of the biggest reasons I come around here is for the entertainment. The bickering about whose phone is better. Who is harvesting data and who’s not. Google sucks. Apple sucks. It never ends.

I think this may be because some people have invested their sense of identity - and their sense of themselves - this is one of the ways they define themselves - in their visible ownership of these products, and therefore, by extension, may see an attack on the product as a sort of attack on themselves and their identity.

 

[Miss_Mac]

Wouldn't worry about it, OP. Use whatever brand, OS etc. you like. At this point, the flaws in all platforms and systems are almost cancelling each other out, so the best is subjective: what the person enjoys using.

I would define my tech usage as a mostly Apple user, but I am not against other OS/platforms if they work better for me. That folks prefer or also use Android, Windows, Linux etc. is a neat thing. Choice is good. I used to be all snippy about anything that wasn't Apple, but given their issues in software and hardware these days that is no longer the case. Tech is disposable now, so my attitude is shifting in accordance.

I do not belittle a person's tech choice though.

Now if these companies would double down on software and security too? That would be swell.

 

[Phonephreak]

I think this may be because some people have invested their sense of identity - and their sense of themselves - this is one of the ways they define themselves - in their visible ownership of these products, and therefore, by extension, may see an attack on the product as a sort of attack on themselves and their identity.

Great answer. Seems kind of ridiculous to base your self worth on what phone you use.
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Wouldn't worry about it, OP. Use whatever brand, OS etc. you like. At this point, the flaws in all platforms and systems are almost cancelling each other out, so the best is subjective: what the person enjoys using.

I would define my tech usage as a mostly Apple user, but I am not against other OS/platforms if they work better for me. That folks prefer or also use Android, Windows, Linux etc. is a neat thing. Choice is good. I used to be all snippy about anything that wasn't Apple, but given their issues in software and hardware these days that is no longer the case. Tech is disposable now, so my attitude is shifting in accordance.

I do not belittle a person's tech choice though.

Now if these companies would double down on software and security too? That would be swell.

I agree. I use iOS 99% of the time. Only time I use a computer is when I am using my Plex server.

 

[decafjava]

I have noticed that many people seem to give their phone/tablet/computer far to much room in their lives. It’s a tool. I love my iPhone iPad and Apple Watch. But I don’t hate other phones. I really don’t give them much though. I think the note 8 is a nice looking phone. I’m just invested in the Apple ecosystem and happy being in it.

The way Apple fans defend Apple and trash android is insane. Android fans do the same thing. Defend android, trash Apple. Who CARES it’s a pocket computer. Use the one you like.

I admit one of the biggest reasons I come around here is for the entertainment. The bickering about whose phone is better. Who is harvesting data and who’s not. Google sucks. Apple sucks. It never ends.

I agree, I will say I think issues like data harvesting, labour practices and so on are things we as consumers should pay attention to however. This doesn't make us devils or angels for using or avoiding said products...

 

[USAFA2008]

I agree. I use iOS 99% of the time. Only time I use a computer is when I am using my Plex server.

If my understanding is correct there are now some NAS servers that are able to run Plex without a computer.

 

[eyoungren]

I find the Apple ecosystem highly overrated.

Once you're forced to use workarounds you realize that there are other companies that do the same thing Apple does or better and that you aren't therefore dependent on Apple. Most of Apple's exclusive 'services' that are not offered by anyone else seem to be things I have no need for or interest in. No matter where I am, there is a computer in front of me 24/7 so I use my phone as a phone and a computer for pretty much everything else.

I believe in platform independent services and while people bash Google as evil I do not find them intrusive. And Google's services work on my 2003-2006 era Macs.

On the other side, I'm not entirely a fan of Android, although an Android phone will be my next upgrade. More and more Apple is locking things down and preventing customization while trying to make you think they are offering you features (I speak of iOS).

I use what works for me, whether that's Apple, Microsoft, Google or anything else. I have an idea for what I want to do most times and I refuse to be limited by any company.

So, I'm behind any company that allows me to do what I want to do without being hindered. In this way I have no loyalty to a particular product, no entrapment by a particular product and thus no interest in being a fanboi over any particular product.

I am quite willing however, to point out what I see as flaws, poor decisions or mistakes on the part of any company I engage with.

 

[Tech198]

I have noticed that many people seem to give their phone/tablet/computer far to much room in their lives. It’s a tool. I love my iPhone iPad and Apple Watch. But I don’t hate other phones. I really don’t give them much though. I think the note 8 is a nice looking phone. I’m just invested in the Apple ecosystem and happy being in it.

The way Apple fans defend Apple and trash android is insane. Android fans do the same thing. Defend android, trash Apple. Who CARES it’s a pocket computer. Use the one you like.

I admit one of the biggest reasons I come around here is for the entertainment. The bickering about whose phone is better. Who is harvesting data and who’s not. Google sucks. Apple sucks. It never ends.

Because your still in that eco-system/open source "space"


Vintage users who've always bought an Apple product/device, or Android users buying Google phones, always feel the same as "I hate everything but this think i am holding"

The longer u are in that space, I think the more you begin to think everything else sux.. (edits: "room for improvement")

Not everyone does.

 

[USAFA2008]

I find the Apple ecosystem highly overrated.

I can agree with that statement and this is coming from someone who has used Apple since the first iPhone.

Most of Apple's exclusive 'services' that are not offered by anyone else seem to be things I have no need for or interest in.

How so?

I believe in platform independent services and while people bash Google as evil I do not find them intrusive.

The only service I use that is not platform independent would be the iCloud backup on my iPhone and iPad. Aside from that I use Google Drive or OneDrive for my cloud storage. My wife and I use Google Hangouts instead of iMessage because it is cross platform and will work on work computers as well.

On the other side, I'm not entirely a fan of Android, although an Android phone will be my next upgrade. More and more Apple is locking things down and preventing customization while trying to make you think they are offering you features (I speak of iOS).

What don't you like about Android? I agree that Apple makes you think they are offering new features. Look at wireless charging and fast charging.

I use what works for me, whether that's Apple, Microsoft, Google or anything else. I have an idea for what I want to do most times and I refuse to be limited by any company.

That is the important thing, use what works for you. I haven't gotten the iPhone X because I am not entirely sold on it. There are things that I liked about my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge that make me want to go back to Android. Since my wife and I use Google Hangouts we are no longer dependent on FaceTime when one of us is deployed. Plus Google Hangouts allows me to stay in touch with my family while I am overseas.

I am quite willing however, to point out what I see as flaws, poor decisions or mistakes on the part of any company I engage with.

I am the same way! When I point out flaws of my iPhone 7 Plus I am accused of being an "Apple hater" by Apple fanbois.

 

[eyoungren]

How so?

Handoff is the one that comes to mind. I don't do any serious browsing on my phone or tablet. As I said, 24/7 with computers. The one at work has three screens and the one at home has six screens. In between there's at least three laptops, two other desktops and a bunch of other stuff.

So, the idea of starting something on my computer or my phone is irrelevant. If it's serious enough to start on my computer I'm not leaving the computer for the phone. And if it merits handing off to a computer then I'm not doing it on my iDevice.

But, Dolphin browser has a Firefox plugin that allows this anyway so I could if I wanted to. But as I just explained above, totally unnecessary for me.

Making a call from the Apple Watch? Don't own one, don't want one. If it's important enough to make a call, that's what my iPhone is for. I don't make calls from a computer unless it's Skype and that's something that's been anticipated and set up. I have a phone for phone calls and text messaging as well. The phone sits on my desk all day less than 3 feet away from me. And I'm not using my bosse's Mac to text my wife or someone else.

The only service I use that is not platform independent would be the iCloud backup on my iPhone and iPad. Aside from that I use Google Drive or OneDrive for my cloud storage. My wife and I use Google Hangouts instead of iMessage because it is cross platform and will work on work computers as well.

When my wife and I eventually leave iPhone we have unlimited texting. We'll go back to the same thing we were doing before iPhone. iMessage is nice, but ultimately just another messaging service. Texting will suit our purposes just as well. As I already mentioned I don't call or text from a computer.

What don't you like about Android? I agree that Apple makes you think they are offering new features. Look at wireless charging and fast charging.

I think the fact that there are multiple ways to do one task, some of them more complicated than others. I'd prefer less complicated routes if the goal is to end up in the same place. I also did not care for how icons on the homescreen looked, but later versions have managed to look nicer I think.

One of my pet peeves though is the complete cluster Android seems to be in the statusbar. I don't know what half of them mean and they seem to appear whereever and not always in the same place. It's hard to figure out what is what.

That is the important thing, use what works for you. I haven't gotten the iPhone X because I am not entirely sold on it. There are things that I liked about my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge that make me want to go back to Android. Since my wife and I use Google Hangouts we are no longer dependent on FaceTime when one of us is deployed. Plus Google Hangouts allows me to stay in touch with my family while I am overseas.

I didn't get the X because I don't like how it looks. Same for the 7+ and the 8+. I do not like the camera bulge in particular. But as my requirements for a phone are fairly light (haven't changed since 2009) and we stick with our phones for 2 or more years I look at aesthetics over features. I want to still like the phone when I go to replace it, not hate it and want to get rid of it - because we don't sell our phones. We move them down to less intense roles or give them to people who need them.

I am the same way! When I point out flaws of my iPhone 7 Plus I am accused of being an "Apple hater" by Apple fanbois.

People think their decisions are being attacked (thus they are being attacked) or that an opinion means everyone should see it the way you do. Possibly because this is what they believe themselves, IDK.

I just try to make a point that I don't agree with a particular direction or choice and that it's not the company or the product I hate or don't like.

By now everyone knows I consider the camera bump on the 6 series to be fugly. That's an opinion because I don't like Apple's design choices and direction in that area. But it's just my opinion. I don't hate Apple or the iPhone (it's an iPhone still which says something in and of itself) just the decisions made about the design.

That's not hate, that's not condemning anyone that uses the device as a sheep or Koolaide drinker or what have you. But a lot fhem seem to think it is. Some of them you can't reason with.

PS. My dad (82) has a ring similar to your avatar. USMC, Korean Conflict, 1st Marine Division. He worked in aerospace in the 70s-80s (got out before Vietnam) so I grew up around a LOT of Air Force personnell.

 

[Atomic1977]

Until I got my iPad mini 2 I was always in favor of the windows and Microsoft side of things. Now I like both. All though I’ve had iPods. Everyone uses what they like enough said.

 

[USAFA2008]

Until I got my iPad mini 2 I was always in favor of the windows and Microsoft side of things. Now I like both. All though I’ve had iPods. Everyone uses what they like enough said.

Exactly, use what you like. My wife wants an iPad Mini but is waiting to see if there is a new generation coming out.

 

[Atomic1977]

@USAFA2008 there has been rumored that a mini 5 is comming in 2018. But you know Apple don’t believe it till Apple makes it.

 

[vkd]

The root problem is that people's lives are shallow. They have no solid philosophical foundation and are drifting about on the sensory platform, accepting and rejecting according to their freewill, going nowhere, wasting time.

 

[USAFA2008]

@USAFA2008 there has been rumored that a mini 5 is comming in 2018. But you know Apple don’t believe it till Apple makes it.

Thanks I will let my wife know. If it happens and depending on when perhaps I won't tell her so I don't have to guess what to get her for her birthday.

 

[Atomic1977]

Your welcome.