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daijholt

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Jun 14, 2013
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So I'm just curious as to why the people here are fans of all things Apple? I was asked a great question today by a colleague that said he was surprised I prefer Apple over Android, simply because I'm very technically minded and should, in theory, prefer the hugely open & 'do as you please' nature of Android.

Interested to get some thoughts from other people on this.
 

old-wiz

macrumors G3
Mar 26, 2008
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West Suburban Boston Ma
I wouldn't say I love Apple devices, rather I would say I use them because they work together well. With several Macs plus iPHone iPad, iPod, I'm happy I don't have to figure out different ways of keeping them up to date.
 

sunking101

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Sep 19, 2013
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I don't understand this 'do as you please' argument when it comes to Android. Aside from a few battery-sapping widgets, and other 'customisation' features, what useful things can anyone really do with Android that they can't do with iOS? Flash is dying out even on Android, so that can't be a decent argument either. Android is ok, but I find iOS to be a better operating system.
 

aPple nErd

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Feb 12, 2012
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even though i am also technically minded, i don't want to spend hours per week maintaining a windows machine, or trying to secure my android phone. i'd rather just reboot every few days without problems. i have never understood the whole "apple products are for stupid people" thing. makes no sense. to me, windows and android are more that way. why would you purposely own a windows machine that you have to fix all the time when you could get a mac that lasts 3 times as long, and has 3 times less problems?
 

AppleDeviceUser

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Jan 7, 2012
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Everything is designed and backed by one company so it works flawlessly most of the time, and when it doesn't they have award winning customer service to help you out. When you own almost every product they make it all syncs together perfectly and is very convenient.

Like take for example, I am working on a document on my MacBook Pro R, I then have to leave for school so I save (And in the case of upcoming iOS 8 and Mac OSX Yosemite) I can just pick up my iPhone 5S and everything is either saved or even open and ready for me to type where I left off. I then finish the document halfway to school and save it on my iPhone, with true LTE speeds it saves instantly and I don't have to worry about it. When I arrive at school, I access iCloud.com from the school computer (Which even though it's not Mac I can still use) I then access Pages in the cloud and print the document right in time for class.
 

daijholt

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Lots of good points already. I've put some thought into it and for me it seems like the deciding factor is Apple themselves. I trust Apple to provide features that will benefit me, and I trust them to do it in a way that protects all my important data in the process without me having to turn third-party-hacker to stop malware flooding in from the official app store. There isn't an Android or Windows device alive that I would trust with my online banking or website passwords these days.

I don't have the same level of trust in any other brand that I buy products from, & I'm not really sure there's any other company that has all the right pieces in place to match Apple in this regard.
 

Armen

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Apr 30, 2013
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So I'm just curious as to why the people here are fans of all things Apple? I was asked a great question today by a colleague that said he was surprised I prefer Apple over Android, simply because I'm very technically minded and should, in theory, prefer the hugely open & 'do as you please' nature of Android.

Interested to get some thoughts from other people on this.

For me its the quality of the finish. It's difficult to look at an Apple product and see flaws in the finish. Heck, the box they come in are even pretty.
 

firewood

macrumors G3
Jul 29, 2003
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Silicon Valley
Apple tends to care about more of the small details, above and beyond technical specs, that, in combination, make their products more polished and nicer for the user. I love that fact that less malware is targeted at Apple's products than any of their larger competitors.

As a mobile app developer, I really love the fact that Apple targets customers who, on average, per user, spend over 10X more cash on paying for apps than any other device maker. No mobile platform is really that easy to develop for. But I find Xcode to be a more polished mobile development environment than Eclipse. Well worth the extra $99/annum to code and put my own customized apps on my iOS devices.
 
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sunapple

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Jul 16, 2013
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I like the perfected details. I also like my phone and computer to be easy to use without any problems. Not because I'm not technical, but because I believe products should alway be like this. Of course, you get what you pay for ("Apple is expensive because it's perfect" cliche)

Customization on Android is great, but I'm not interested in spending that much time on fixing things that should've already been fixed when I first opened the box.

The iPhone has everything I need in a phone; just a device that opens, runs and quits applications without hesitation or unwanted features.

I also like the hardware design of the iPhone, but I believe other companies do pretty good jobs too in that area (HTC, Nokia). It's the combination of hardware and software that makes the iPhone better (same goes for Macs) ("hardware and software works seamlessly together" cliche)

It's when you switch to something like Windows Phone that you realize what made the iPhone so great.. If you're bored with iOS; just try another platform. You'll have to wait until september for the iPhone 6 anyway, so there's plenty of time.
 

Mousse

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Apr 7, 2008
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Flea Bottom, King's Landing
No love of :apple: devices here. They're tools and damn fine ones at that. BUT zero brand loyalty from me. If someone makes a better laptop than the MBA, I'm getting that instead. :apple: gets my $$$ because OS X kicks all manner of tush and the MBA ain't a bad machine either.;)
 

2984839

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Apr 19, 2014
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Saying I "love" Apple devices wouldn't be accurate, but I really like the build quality and aesthetic design of their laptops and desktops. I bought both of my laptops solely for those reasons.
 

phoenixsan

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Oct 19, 2012
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In my case.....

design, simplicity (ease of use) and tight integration between software and hardware are the main factors I am attracted to Apple devices. I am aware to the fact that sometimes exist devices or hardware with better specs than Apple (as the case of some Hackintoshes) but that is not the only thing for me....:eek:


:):apple:
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
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UK
I don't love all Apple devices, but the ones I currently own I do.

My iMac G4 has a super sexy design and has screamed for me since 2004, all original parts except RAM. It has outlived a white MacBook, a MacBook Air, an Intel iMac and an iPad 2. Best Apple device I've owned. I also wrote all my books on it too! :)

I also love my iPod Classic because without it, having all of my music on the go would be impossible.

I wouldn't go as far as to say I love my Airports, despite them being relatively reliable and easy to configure.
 

Cassady

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Jul 7, 2012
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One of the no doubt significant 'background' influences towards why I'm appreciative of them, lies in the un-spoken attitude about all 'the little things'...

Very hard to explain - but will give it a bash... :cool:

The first time it really hit home, was a year or so ago, when the web (those concerned with Apple things, in any event) suddenly lit up about how someone had posted a Twitter pic about a new way of rolling up/storing/folding their magsafe charger – in such a manner that it quickly became apparent doing it the other way, as most of us presumably did, was just just 'wrong'! :p

I distinctly remember going through several brief thought processes at the time...

Why didn't I think of that? >>

There are some pretty smart Apple users out there >>

Wait, why didn't Apple tell us this? >>

Maybe they never thought of it either >>

Actually, they probably did >>

I'm going to feel all smug the next time I see someone doing it 'wrong' >>

Actually, I don't feel smug, since I remember how completely clueless I was when I bought my first iPod ["how does this thing work... where's the manual"...] >>

Paying as much as I did for my second Magsafe charger (to be used at the office), the price now seems fair -- remembering how annoyed I was at why Apple would design something and forget to add the velcro strap thingy... Guess they thought of that already... :p

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Didn't exactly spend minutes thinking about the above, but that little incident had me starting to think differently about how Apple does things... And that approach seems to apply equally to almost everything they do... Since then, whenever a new feature was announced/was not announced, only to be met by face-palms and gnashing of teeth - I tend to be a bit more circumspect... Apple is probably the most 'patient' company out there... They are releasing products today, that were probably designed/'completed' two or three or four years ago, to fit in with new features that are going to be implemented properly in 2/3/4/5 years from now... And they don't say a word...

All of that from something as basic as a laptop charger, and the thought that went into designing a 'feature' that most(?) of us never even realised was there...

Staying on the theme of chargers -- this confirmed the rest...

The huge difference that exists between a real iPad charger, and a counterfeit/knock-off charger... Now obviously other reputable companies make perfectly good iPad chargers, but it really brought home the message that appearances can be very deceptive -- and I will always be appreciative of a company that seemingly places equal (if not more) effort in design and engineering what goes on the inside of their computers and devices, as to the external appearances...

I've opened up several laptops and desktops over many years, and few have come across as neat and compact as a MBP... and don't even get me started on the internals of the nMP -- imo, it's literally a piece of engineering art.

So for me, I appreciate Apple devices despite paying an absolute premium for them, because I know that (mass-production aside), there has been so much design and engineering thought/R&D put into every little product, from the top of line desktops, all the way down to the 'simplest' ATV remote and iPad charger... For me, it's not just buying a piece of tech, it's more than that - it's buying (into) a design philosophy... Something I would happily pay for. And the fact that everything I've ever bought has, thus far [touching wood!] not given me the slightest issue, makes it so much easier to do, as well...

My 2 cents. :apple:


TL;DR -- they make really good looking products, inside and out, that just work...
 

maflynn

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May 3, 2009
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Count me in as someone who doesn't "love" them. I use my phone, computer, iPad for certain things. If another product better fits those needs, I'll use that over an apple product.

I see no advantage in being brand loyal in this day and age, Apple has some great products and technology to be sure, but I save my love for my family and friends :)
 

iscsntn

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Mar 31, 2014
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I don't understand this 'do as you please' argument when it comes to Android. Aside from a few battery-sapping widgets, and other 'customisation' features, what useful things can anyone really do with Android that they can't do with iOS? Flash is dying out even on Android, so that can't be a decent argument either. Android is ok, but I find iOS to be a better operating system.
You say customization like it's just one other thing when it's definitely not. P.S. I have the best of both!
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
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You say customization like it's just one other thing when it's definitely not. P.S. I have the best of both!

Only if you jailbreak, out of the box iOS is very locked down and you have little ability to change things in the OS. It seems like OS X maybe headed that way, but then its always had a somewhat locked down feel, i.e., unable to theme it (at least easily).
 

mwa

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Jun 3, 2013
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For me it's matter of stability, securety, and build quality.

I like having an ecosystem, closed or not but then again Android isn't "Open Source" as such either, that simply works flawlessly across the board. My iPhone works with my iPad, which works with MacBook Pro which works with both the iPhone and iPad. Plus, I have guaranteed OS updates for at least three generations (compared with two for Android, if you're lucky).

I also avoid the fragmentation inherent in the other platform as well.

I've used Windows Phones, and while I can't stand Windows as a computer OS I actually really like what they've done with mobile. But, I don't use a Windows computer.

Add on to this the best customer service in the industry.

It's (Win+Win)*(Win*∞) for me.
 

Last iOS 5 user

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Jun 17, 2014
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I grew up around them and have screwed around with Windows and Android/Linux before. Had issues with all the platforms (I never owned any devices running those platforms I was all apple all my life). Apple products are high quality, innovative, beautiful, and reliable. And unlike many computers my iMac was not made in China, USA instead (Fremont, CA by Quanta)
 

Martin29

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Nov 25, 2010
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Because all the Apple devices I have used have done exactly as it said on the box.. Without fuss, without degrading performance over time. They are the only devices I have ever used which work seamlessly together without the need to spend enormous amounts of time configuring.
 

Michael Goff

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Jul 5, 2012
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I like my Mac because it runs OS X, as well as can run other Operating Systems.

I like my iPad because it's still as good as it is despite its age. >_>
 

the8thark

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Apr 18, 2011
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I would have to say the finder in OS X and iOS. The Apps/programs between OSX/windows and iOS/Android all get the job done for the most part. But with Apple I can spend a lot less time organising stuff in the finder and more time in the apps I want to be using.

iOS takes this to the extreme so that there is nothing to do in the finder except choose the app you want to use. Having the finder almost invisible like that is amazing. No time wasted doing boring things before you can get into the app.

OS X on the other hand has a very visible finder. But it's relatively easy to organise files and other things in it. And I don't have to do much before I can get into the app to start doing whatever.

With the competition Windows/Android, their apps get the job done, but too much mucking around outside the apps is needed first before I can get into the apps. Like file organisation (which is not straightforward), dealing with metro (I so want to disable that entirely on fusion) etc etc.

I think most people won't even think of the iOS/OSX finder as the reason why they like Apple products. But that's exactly it. Not having to think about much at all is why it's amazing. And in iOS you don't think about it at all. It being seamless and just doing it's job without any time wasted in it is why I love it.

A feature that has a whole purpose of being as seamless and be as close invisible as possible is the weirdest reason to like something. But that's what I like.
 
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