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Sodium Chloride

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The following option is not available for the iPad. Only for the iPhone:

I want to buy a refurbished 3 years old iPad. Apple said that every refurbished iPad came with brand new battery. How do I check if this is truly the case if I can’t see the battery max capacity?
 
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rui no onna

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The following option is not available for the iPad. Only for the iPhone:

I want to buy a refurbished 3 years old iPad. Apple said that every refurbished iPad came with brand new battery. How do I check if this is truly the case if I can’t see the battery max capacity?
Coconut Battery for Mac

iMazing for Windows

Not extremely accurate but good enough.
 

ApfelKuchen

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I think Apple is trying to avoid "battery obsession" in iPad, because for the average user iPads don't have the same battery performance challenges as iPhones. The whole "Throttle to avoid shutdowns vs. let the thing shut down if the battery can't deliver the required peak current" thing has not been the major issue on iPad that it is for iPhones. I think it all comes down to the sizes of the batteries.

Both iPhones and iPads are running (essentially) identical processors and apps, so peak current demand is going to be quite similar. However, their batteries (due to the dramatic differences in size) have very different peak current capabilities. (The iPad's larger display demands more current on a constant basis, but the display doesn't make the same kind of peak demands the CPU does.) A three-year-old iPad battery can probably still deliver all the peak current most apps require, while a three-year-old iPhone battery may already be toast.

Essentially, Apple is being Apple in the sense that they don't want to draw attention to the iPad battery (by providing comprehensive battery condition/usage info) if it isn't a major problem. Without a doubt there would be those who see a Maximum Capacity in Battery Health of, say, 87% and decide they want a new battery, regardless of whether 87% is a problem. (In theory 87% isn't a problem in an iPhone either, but an iPhone battery at 80% is a problem, while an iPad battery at 80% probably is not a problem.)

Now, I'd love to have the same battery info for my iPad as I get for my iPhone. Enquiring minds want to know, and all that. However, I'm still seeing no hint of battery problems with my first-gen 12.9" iPad Pro, which is more than four years old.
 

Sodium Chloride

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I really don't understand how people doubt of what Apple officially says.. especially something as clear as this...

The thing is, the battery Apple installed may never been used before but being three years old, how good would the battery perform compared to what it was three years prior. As battery ages, its performance degrades overtime, even though you never use it.
 

russell_314

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The thing is, the battery Apple installed may never been used before but being three years old, how good would the battery perform compared to what it was three years prior. As battery ages, its performance degrades overtime, even though you never use it.
You think they have a warehouse full of batteries made when they first made the iPad? No that's not how it works. They order new stuff.
 

0924487

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The thing is, the battery Apple installed may never been used before but being three years old, how good would the battery perform compared to what it was three years prior. As battery ages, its performance degrades overtime, even though you never use it.
If you care and only want the best, why don’t you buy the latest and greatest from Apple? If you can’t afford to care, then you shouldn’t.
 

Digitalguy

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The thing is, the battery Apple installed may never been used before but being three years old, how good would the battery perform compared to what it was three years prior. As battery ages, its performance degrades overtime, even though you never use it.
I take the opportunity of someone resuscitating this old thread to add: that's an interesting point with new devices... I recently bought an ipad pro 2018 new. I was probably made at least 1 year ago... The battery was dead, while normally for new product it's half charged... Which is to be expected, since batteries self discharge very slowly even when the device is off. However the battery capacity was still 106-107% as is typical for new devices, so this did not affect it too much...
 
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