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Frustrates me to no end. Why not offer a 21 quad? Heat? Or Apple just being Apple? Any chance we might see one in the new year?
 
What will most likely happen is apple will use the Clarksfield for these come next upgrade.
Popular speculation for these past iMacs that were just recently released was the idea of them getting Clarksfield-- but lo' and behold they got the desktop grade lynnfield line up of cpus.
 
to bump customers up to a higher pricepoint.

Might be a heat reason since they are using i5/i7 desktop cpus.
 
Frustrates me to no end. Why not offer a 21 quad? Heat? Or Apple just being Apple? Any chance we might see one in the new year?

It's the reason Apple made the new ones 27"...more room for more heat. 21" and apparently I would guess even 24" was just not enough room for them to have a current quad core processor in.
 
to bump customers up to a higher pricepoint.

Might be a heat reason since they are using i5/i7 desktop cpus.

I think you're right first time. As for the heat issue, I thought the quad-cores were supposed to be more power efficient and run cooler than dual-core machines.

Are people suggesting that the dual-core machines run cooler and more efficiently than the high-end quad-core processors? If that's the case I might seriously consider getting a dual-core machine...
 
What is specific chip for the Core 2 Duo model? Is it the E7600 Wolfdale?

If so the TDP on that is 65W.

The i5 and i7's are only 82W. Doesn't seem like the additional 17W would make that much difference to dissipate?
 
I think you're right first time. As for the heat issue, I thought the quad-cores were supposed to be more power efficient and run cooler than dual-core machines.

Are people suggesting that the dual-core machines run cooler and more efficiently than the high-end quad-core processors? If that's the case I might seriously consider getting a dual-core machine...

The greater question, to myself, triggered by your answers is:

When might we see the quads in Apple's laptop line? If this is a heat issue, as suggested, and a 21 iMac can't handle the heat? How is a 13 Macbook Pro going to by early 2010?
 
The greater question, to myself, triggered by your answers is:

When might we see the quads in Apple's laptop line? If this is a heat issue, as suggested, and a 21 iMac can't handle the heat? How is a 13 Macbook Pro going to by early 2010?

The 27" are using Desktop Chips. They have a higher TDP which causes them to run hotter.

Threads here imply Apple is waiting for Arrandale (a low power usage notebook version of i5/7) before putting them in mbp's.

If there is ever a quad in the 21.5" it won't be the desktop version. As to fitting them in a mbp, the notebook version does not compare to the TDP of the desktop version. Arrandale notebook chips use at most 35W TDP. The chips in 27" imacs are 95W TDP.

I'm no expert on this so any technical misdescription etc..... whatever.. but hope it helps
 
The 27" are using Desktop Chips. They have a higher TDP which causes them to run hotter.

Threads here imply Apple is waiting for Arrandale (a low power usage notebook version of i5/7) before putting them in mbp's.

If there is ever a quad in the 21.5" it won't be the desktop version. As to fitting them in a mbp, the notebook version does not compare to the TDP of the desktop version. Arrandale notebook chips use at most 35W TDP. The chips in 27" imacs are 95W TDP.

I'm no expert on this so any technical misdescription etc..... whatever.. but hope it helps

Very much so. I'm not ashamed to admit I know very little about this stuff. It's why I asked the questions I did. Many thanks for the info.
 
What is specific chip for the Core 2 Duo model? Is it the E7600 Wolfdale?

If so the TDP on that is 65W.

The i5 and i7's are only 82W. Doesn't seem like the additional 17W would make that much difference to dissipate?

and future core i5s are 32nm so that should help heat.

the current Core i5 750 is 45nm
 
Core2Duos in iMacs are mobile cpus.

i5 and i7 in the Imac are desktop cpus.

nope they are standard desktop CPUs E7600 and E8600

actually for normal usage all the new iMac models are pretty fast (may be low end integrated graphics) and u can up the memory to 8GB easily

with upcoming Core i5 Dual Core, 32nm, DMI will fast when imacs are upgraded next time in 6 to 8 months
 
Couldn't they just make it a bit fatter? I don't think people really care about the width for desktops do they? Oh well, I have a feeling we will see quads in the 21.5" in about a years time.
 
nope they are standard desktop CPUs E7600 and E8600

actually for normal usage all the new iMac models are pretty fast (may be low end integrated graphics) and u can up the memory to 8GB easily

with upcoming Core i5 Dual Core, 32nm, DMI will fast when imacs are upgraded next time in 6 to 8 months

Right.

Link to Intel.
 
I think you're right first time. As for the heat issue, I thought the quad-cores were supposed to be more power efficient and run cooler than dual-core machines.

Are people suggesting that the dual-core machines run cooler and more efficiently than the high-end quad-core processors? If that's the case I might seriously consider getting a dual-core machine...

The dual-core doesn't produce less heat when it does the same amount of work as a quad-core. The difference is that the quad-core can do twice as much work in the same time, and will produce more heat when it does that.
 
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