I used to use those that looks like a mini car with a long hose. Why most vacuum cleaners sold these days are bagless? It means when cleaning, I have to get my hands dirty. Also, companies advertise that it is convenience to clean just by opening the dust container and let those dirt to fall out. I found those dust flowing in air instead. Sounds like current vacuum cleaners are step back from those 30+ years ago.
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Why most vacuum cleaners sold in North America these days are bagless?
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I have a Eureka small cannister from the early 1980s and they still sell the bags and filters for it and it still works. I don't use it that much because the motors on the newer models are much more powerful. We have a Dyson Stick and it's great for portability and also a Hoover upright. These two are relatively new and bagless. The best way to clean it is to empty it out outside, in a dumpster if you have one available. There are cannister vacuum cleaners available with bags like the Miele. There are other brands which have bags but you usually find them at specialty stores. We have a local Sew and Vac store that sells vacuum cleaners from a few companies that use bags.
The mass merchandising places sell models that are all bagless in my experience.
The reason why most are bagless today is that's what people want.
I do not get my hands dirty when emptying out the canister on our bagless models. I just push a button, the bottom cover falls down and the dirt falls out. When done, I just push the bottom cover back into the bottom. It swings down from a hinge.
The mass merchandising places sell models that are all bagless in my experience.
The reason why most are bagless today is that's what people want.
I do not get my hands dirty when emptying out the canister on our bagless models. I just push a button, the bottom cover falls down and the dirt falls out. When done, I just push the bottom cover back into the bottom. It swings down from a hinge.
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I prefer bagless. I don't have to purchase the bags, so overall cost of ownership is lower. It is also less waste. I also remember having a full bag with no replacement bags and needing to vacuum.
Speaking of Miele, there's also the Triflex cordless (and bagless) stick:
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I agree with you about bagless and much prefer the bags. I like the Miele bags in particular because they're fabric of some kind and don't rip and don't "wheeze" much when removed.
You can blame Dyson. Dyson changed the entire market and in order to hold on to their own shares of the market the other manufacturers changed to be more like Dyson.
Why those Miele cleaners are so expensive?
I was chatting with Bissell. They told me that none of their current product has a HEPA filter.
For those vacuum cleaners that do not have a HEPA filter, does that mean tiny dusts can get through the cleaner and the user can breath in those dust particles during cleaning?
I was chatting with Bissell. They told me that none of their current product has a HEPA filter.
For those vacuum cleaners that do not have a HEPA filter, does that mean tiny dusts can get through the cleaner and the user can breath in those dust particles during cleaning?
Yup. I'm surprised that Bissell doesn't have a HEPA filter. I have a cheap $100 Hoover and that has a HEPA filter.
I think that dust is captured but smaller particles like pollen would get through.
Miele is a high-end brand. I mentioned them because I know that they sell cannister vacs with bags as I've seen them in my local store. There may well be other brands - I'm just not aware of them. One thing about Miele is that I believe that you can get replacement parts and consumables decades after buying them.
Don't know what the pricing is like in the US but they are well priced in the UK but also well made and do the job they are designed for very well. Ours just had a warranty repair 10 years in (warranty was an extra paid for at purchase and on offer at the time £30 for an extra 9 years past the legal 1 year cover). Probably last another 10 and parts are still available for me to buy. Bags are standard across the years. I keep an eye out for the offers from Miele and buy a few boxes every now and then.
Dyson were one of the first in the UK to do HEPA filters, I find they were expensive tat that rattle about but had the heap filter (obvs 10 years ago was my last one, have they improved?). Bagless always meant more dust the way we have to bag up our waste for collection.
HEPA should be industry standard by now, cheaper filters allow the dust to recirculate out the vacuum exhaust. Not saying HEPA is not outdone by a non descript filter but that should be the level the filters aim for. Difference for me has been amazing, house dust is a big cause of respiratory issues. Or rather, as was explained by a doctor, the dust mites.
Miele are expensive because they last a long time. Mine is 10 years old and hasn't been serviced once. If I recall correctly, I paid $350-400 at the time. It still works like it was new. I got tired of buying a new vacuum every couple of years and the noise level of many vacuums. Of course in the last 10 years, vacuums have evolved tremendously. If this one dies, would I get another? I live differently now and might opt for a Roomba.
We just recently went back to a bag vacuum with a Miele and I find it more clean and convenient. We moved our Dyson canister to our basement in my workshop and unless you want a mushroom cloud of dust escaping every time you empty it you need to take it outside which I find most inconvenient.
In response to @WildSky : If you have any carpets I would not rely on a Roomba, they do a poor job, especially with pet hair on a carpet. They do a fine job of maintaining a clean floor between vacuuming but I wouldn't suggest it being your only vacuum. It is fun to watch them "learn" your house but you will be surprised how many places they can get trapped in.
In response to @WildSky : If you have any carpets I would not rely on a Roomba, they do a poor job, especially with pet hair on a carpet. They do a fine job of maintaining a clean floor between vacuuming but I wouldn't suggest it being your only vacuum. It is fun to watch them "learn" your house but you will be surprised how many places they can get trapped in.
Good to know, thanks. I've had such a great experience with Miele, it would be hard to switch anyway.
I don't have pets due to allergies. But one thing I remember from owning a Roomba prior to the Miele was emptying its bin was messy and required it to be done frequently. For anyone with allergies, the less one comes in direct contact with bunches of dust and debris, the better.
To clarify, I have the Roomba that empties its own bin into the base which has a bag, it sounds like a full on shop-vac during that cycle but it works well.
@pshufd OMFG, that would suck! Not only cleaning up the floor but cleaning the Roomba itself would be a nightmare!
I've looked at some of those (the i3+ etc.), but that's a pretty high price point for the limited robot vacuum functionality, i.e., need for a crevice tool, stairs, thick rugs ...
Agreed, got the i3 on a black friday deal, was still a little salty but at least not list price.
My parents have been using Dyson machines for 20 years so I don’t even remember them with bags… LOL. They just bought their first cordless V8, although the previous one still works. That’s three Dysons in 20 years then. Expensive, but no bags and works like a charm. Although emptying the bin is best done outside, that’s true (not sure for newest V15).
As I recall the bag reduced the suction as it fills up. At least that’s how Dyson marketed its cyclone technology. Not had a bagged vacuum in decades. Just empty it into the wheelie bin. Of course we have no pets or even carpets these days so our cleaning isn’t as full on as some people’s. We also never wear outside shoes in the house.