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Fleetwood Mac

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Apr 27, 2006
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Oh boy... Hows Microsoft going to get around this one? Looks like they be screwed. Its not like they couldn't turn a nice profit from upgrades versions anyway.

I suspect its against an agreement though.

*Nice find. (not for the "illegitimacy*, the interest)
 

topgunn

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Nov 5, 2004
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Houston
Why should you buy a full version? To comply with the EULA. If you don't care about being legal, then why even buy the upgrade?
 

atszyman

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Sep 16, 2003
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The Dallas 'burbs
Oh boy... Hows Microsoft going to get around this one? Looks like they be screwed. Its not like they couldn't turn a nice profit from upgrades versions anyway.

I suspect its against an agreement though.

*Nice find.

Definitely against the EULA, although somewhat grey if you are just trying to preserve your XP license should you need to switch back.

As for the profit, MS has sunk many years of development time into Vista/Longhorn/... and as much as you think they turn a profit on the $100 upgrades, they need to sell the full versions as well to recoup the development costs. From a raw materials standpoint they could sell disks for less than $20 and make profit, but of course then they'd probably never recoup the last 5 years.

Not that it matters too much since most people are probably going to upgrade their PCs to get Vista anyway so it would be OEM from the PC manufacturer.
 

Fleetwood Mac

macrumors 65816
Apr 27, 2006
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I wouldn't bother with it then.

What's the point of saving a few bucks when for only a little bit more you can have a 100% legit version. In the end you're still shelling out $100+.

Boo. :rolleyes: :apple:
 

atszyman

macrumors 68020
Sep 16, 2003
2,437
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The Dallas 'burbs
I wouldn't bother with it then.

What's the point of saving a few bucks when for only a little bit more you can have a 100% legit version. In the end you're still shelling out $100+.

Boo. :rolleyes: :apple:

I would probably end up doing this just due to the fact that Vista will invalidate my XP activation so if I wanted to downgrade after installing Vista, I'd be stuck buying another version of XP (in order to maintain legality).

You'd think that given this much time they'd have come up with a good foolproof way to create an "update" DVD/CD that can't be hacked to be a full install... which also tells me they just don't care....

This reminds me of one of the Office versions where the Upgrade CD could be pointed at itself as a valid product to upgrade from. Saved a lot of time and disk swapping on install.
 

topgunn

macrumors 68000
Nov 5, 2004
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This reminds me of one of the Office versions where the Upgrade CD could be pointed at itself as a valid product to upgrade from. Saved a lot of time and disk swapping on install.
I worked at CompUSA in the software department when I was in high school. Customers would come in looking at the full version of office which ran $529 if I recall correctly. I would quickly point them to the upgrade version which was about half that at $249. Not wanting to promote pirating and thus lose my job, I showed them the upgrade requirements which included MS Works. Works, displayed right next to Office, could be had for $49. So, I sold quite a few copies of Works in my time at CompUSA.

Microsoft Works...my favorite oxymoron.
 

sixstorm

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Jan 16, 2006
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Nashville, TN
I plan on grabbing a copy of Vista Ultimate OEM for my iMac once Leopard is released and has full Boot Camp support for Vista. Remember that Parallels only supports Ultimate!

I love OSX but since I am a computer science student, I'm trying to keep up with the times on all three platforms (OSX, Linux and Windows). I've got two Macs: iMac (OSX and XP), iBook (OSX and Ubuntu Linux) and then a server (Ubuntu Server). There's nothing wrong with having all three! :D

http://www.sixstorm.com < - - - My Linux Server running my website!
 

pilotError

macrumors 68020
Apr 12, 2006
2,237
4
Long Island
After reading the anandtech.com review of Vista and its performance versus XP, I think I'll wait a while. Its slower across the board (most likely due to non-optimized drivers). The biggest downer is they have too many versions to choose from. They try and jam you for $500 for the Ultimate and Home basic is pretty much useless for what you pay.

Just about every poll I see ( ie. finance.yahoo.com ) shows that about 70% are looking to skip the upgrade this year.

MS has tried to leverage too much on their users with this ridiculous licensing.
 

princealfie

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Mar 7, 2006
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Salt Lake City UT
After reading the anandtech.com review of Vista and its performance versus XP, I think I'll wait a while. Its slower across the board (most likely due to non-optimized drivers). The biggest downer is they have too many versions to choose from. They try and jam you for $500 for the Ultimate and Home basic is pretty much useless for what you pay.

Just about every poll I see ( ie. finance.yahoo.com ) shows that about 70% are looking to skip the upgrade this year.

MS has tried to leverage too much on their users with this ridiculous licensing.

Wow, so $500 is too expensive for the big upgrade? :D
Of course that's almost the cost of the mac mini which already has the ultimate OS :D
 
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