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Nasus

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I decided it’s time to upgrade my 2011 MacBook. I’m looking at the 14” M1 or M2. Either of these are more than enough computer for my use. My only concern is WI-FI 6E a deal breaker? I do not have a 6E router and probably will not for quite some time.
 

Fishrrman

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Get the 14" M2pro.
It will serve you well, regardless of whether the wifi is 6 or 6e.

Since you won't have a 6e router "for quite some time", you may have another Macbook Pro by then...
 
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JPack

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Realistically, Wi-Fi 6 will provide 500Mbps to 1Gbps which should be enough for most users. By the time the Wi-Fi is deemed too slow, other parts of the computer are already really obsolete.
 

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Even if your router is just WiFi 6, the 6E WiFi on the MBP will often get you faster speeds on the same network. My gaming desktop with WiFi 6 averages 680 Mbps, while my MBP with 6E averages 970 Mbps from the same location.
 
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oneMadRssn

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Even if your router is just WiFi 6, the 6E WiFi on the MBP will often get you faster speeds on the same network. My gaming desktop with WiFi 6 averages 680 Mbps, while my MBP with 6E averages 970 Mbps from the same location.
This probably has more to do with the number of concurrent streams and MU-MIMO, than the 6 vs 6E.

The newest Macbooks support 2x2 MU-MIMO. Does the card in your gaming desktop support 2x2 MU-MIMO? Many wifi controllers built-in to the mobo are pretty low-end and don't support multiple streams.

It would also be channel width - the Macbooks I believe support up to 160mhz channel width, whereas low-end cards might only support up to 40 or 80mhz.
 

JPack

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This probably has more to do with the number of concurrent streams and MU-MIMO, than the 6 vs 6E.

The newest Macbooks support 2x2 MU-MIMO. Does the card in your gaming desktop support 2x2 MU-MIMO? Many wifi controllers built-in to the mobo are pretty low-end and don't support multiple streams.

It would also be channel width - the Macbooks I believe support up to 160mhz channel width, whereas low-end cards might only support up to 40 or 80mhz.

Indeed, streams, antenna design, chipset, or interference from other components inside the desktop computer.
 

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This probably has more to do with the number of concurrent streams and MU-MIMO, than the 6 vs 6E.

The newest Macbooks support 2x2 MU-MIMO. Does the card in your gaming desktop support 2x2 MU-MIMO? Many wifi controllers built-in to the mobo are pretty low-end and don't support multiple streams.

It would also be channel width - the Macbooks I believe support up to 160mhz channel width, whereas low-end cards might only support up to 40 or 80mhz.

The desktop does support 2x2 MU-MIMO - it is a custom-built gaming PC with a gaming-class motherboard. So the only real difference is WiFi 6 vs. 6E on the computer being used at any given moment.
 

ilikewhey

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I decided it’s time to upgrade my 2011 MacBook. I’m looking at the 14” M1 or M2. Either of these are more than enough computer for my use. My only concern is WI-FI 6E a deal breaker? I do not have a 6E router and probably will not for quite some time.
i don't think the wifi 6e is the deal breaker, if anything, wifi 7 is already out so the whole wifi 6e is already outdated, plus the denser the radiowave transmission, the less walls it penetrates, therefore to achieve max bandwidth, you have to have little to zero obstruction between the laptop and the router.

the real question you should be asking is how long of battery life you want, both m1 and m2 will have significant better battery than your current, but the m2 pro's more efficiency core means you can get couple more hours than m1 pro
 

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i don't think the wifi 6e is the deal breaker, if anything, wifi 7 is already out so the whole wifi 6e is already outdated, plus the denser the radiowave transmission, the less walls it penetrates, therefore to achieve max bandwidth, you have to have little to zero obstruction between the laptop and the router.

the real question you should be asking is how long of battery life you want, both m1 and m2 will have significant better battery than your current, but the m2 pro's more efficiency core means you can get couple more hours than m1 pro

WiFi 7 will take a while to reach any measurable market saturation, and it will be more expensive for at least the first year. If anything, this will drop the price of 6E routers and make them more affordable.
 

ilikewhey

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WiFi 7 will take a while to reach any measurable market saturation, and it will be more expensive for at least the first year. If anything, this will drop the price of 6E routers and make them more affordable.
ofcourse, hell even wifi 6 barely has a footing compare to wifi 5, ac and lower, i'm still using 2.4ghz even though i have a wifi 6 router because its more reliable.
 
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I decided it’s time to upgrade my 2011 MacBook. I’m looking at the 14” M1 or M2. Either of these are more than enough computer for my use. My only concern is WI-FI 6E a deal breaker? I do not have a 6E router and probably will not for quite some time.
MBP 14" does not come in M1 or M2.

MBA 13" comes in M1 & M2.

MBA 15" comes in M2 only.

I noticed you kept your 2011 Macbook for a dozen years.

It is expected that the final Security Update for M1 will be by 2020 while M2 by 2022.

WiFi 6E vs 6 materially does not matter unless you push it to the limits.

Do you expect to connect to a wifi network with Internet that fast or connect to other computers in your home/workplace that fast?
 

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I decided it’s time to upgrade my 2011 MacBook. I’m looking at the 14” M1 or M2. Either of these are more than enough computer for my use. My only concern is WI-FI 6E a deal breaker? I do not have a 6E router and probably will not for quite some time.
Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you've got >1GB/sec internet service to your house, 6E won't help. And even if you do, you'll only get improved speeds with a 6E network in short distances from the router. Any further, and you'll be right back to wifi 6 speeds (or less).
 

88Keys

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The biggest benefit to 6E is avoiding network congestion from neighboring wifi connections. If you don't live in a multi-family, urban, or highly saturated area then 6 will be fine.
 
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dmccloud

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Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you've got >1GB/sec internet service to your house, 6E won't help. And even if you do, you'll only get improved speeds with a 6E network in short distances from the router. Any further, and you'll be right back to wifi 6 speeds (or less).

I have a WiFi 6 router, and my computers are around 30-40 feet from the router in a different room entirely. My gaming desktop with WiFi 6 pulls around 600 Mbps, but my 14" MBP with 6E pulls 900-1050 Mbps from the same spot. So you should be fine with a WiFi 6 router instead of 6e
 
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tim1000

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I have a WiFi 6 router, and my computers are around 30-40 feet from the router in a different room entirely. My gaming desktop with WiFi 6 pulls around 600 Mbps, but my 14" MBP with 6E pulls 900-1050 Mbps from the same spot. So you should be fine with a WiFi 6 router instead of 6e
sounds like my MacBook Pro on 6e would be much faster than my current eero pro 6 (not e)
 

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I decided it’s time to upgrade my 2011 MacBook. I’m looking at the 14” M1 or M2. Either of these are more than enough computer for my use. My only concern is WI-FI 6E a deal breaker? I do not have a 6E router and probably will not for quite some time.
Not worth bothering. It’s basically a tech sheet difference like Bluetooth 5.0 vs. 5.3, something we get excited about on MacRumors but virtually impossible to notice in real life.
 

tim1000

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Does 6e gave trouble going through walls? my main router is in my garage.
 
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