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DaDalle

macrumors member
Original poster
Sep 17, 2011
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Hey there,

I installed the latest Yosemite version a few days ago and I still have Wi-Fi connection issues. The connection drops like five times per hour while having my bluetooth keyboard and trackpad connected. Once I disable bluetooth the Wi-Fi connection is up again.

Is anyone else still experiencing this? Do you have an Idea how to fix this?

Thanks!

Edit: I use a rMBP from 2013
 

DaDalle

macrumors member
Original poster
Sep 17, 2011
99
6
Yes I know, But I got Wi-FI problems when having an active bluetooth connection.
 

tinamactek

macrumors newbie
Jul 2, 2015
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I didn't have any wifi problems before i updated to 10.10.4. But now it's extremely slow. Has anyone contacted Apple about this issue.
 

ABC5S

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Sep 10, 2013
3,395
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Florida
Airport Extreme-Current version
32 MB download speed modem
2 Apple products + Apple TV
Yosemite OS 10.10.4

Never an issue - What have you guys done to your system/what kind of modem or wifi do you have ? Must be a reason other than Yosemite if I, and others have no issues ;)
 
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Linuxpro

macrumors regular
Jan 31, 2015
174
4
Singapore
With 10.10.2 and 10.10.3 some bluetooth devices cause problems with the WiFi. After Zi upgraded my bluetooth mouse, my WiFi problesm went away.

I am afraid to bother with 10.10.4. What have they broken?
 

dyn

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Aug 8, 2009
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Wi-Fi and bluetooth are not the same thing.
They are both wireless communication protocols and use the same frequency. Due to that bluetooth can cause interference with wifi disrupting it completely or slowing it down. Both are known issues and are easily resolved by disabling bluetooth. Not something you can fix via software. Use the 5GHz wifi frequency, network cable or use USB instead.
 

\-V-/

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They are both wireless communication protocols and use the same frequency. Due to that bluetooth can cause interference with wifi disrupting it completely or slowing it down. Both are known issues and are easily resolved by disabling bluetooth. Not something you can fix via software. Use the 5GHz wifi frequency, network cable or use USB instead.
Forgot about that. Yeah, switching to 5 GHz (if that's an option) would be best.
 

Linuxpro

macrumors regular
Jan 31, 2015
174
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Singapore
In the USA most buildings are stucco, and drywall. 5Ghz works just fine. 5Ghz works poorly in Singapore. Buildings here are mostly made of masonry, and granite tile. The higher the frequency, the less range you get though dense building materials. Free WiFi is everywhere in Singapore, but not at 5Ghz.

Bluetooth and WiFi co-exist without problems on most computers, like Dell. Assuming the Bluetooth device is well designed, there is no problem. Typically the SMSC, Broadcom, or [insert maker here] combined Bluetooth and WiFi modules contain only volatile memory. The firmware is included in the kernel object, and is uploaded by the main CPU when the kernel object initializes. If the firmware is buggy, the chip will not perform well. Is the problem in the firware? I do not know for sure.

The performance is also very much dependent on how sloppy the Bluetooth device is. A cheap $20 (USA) iHome mouse or a fake "Beats" Bluetooth speaker can cause problems for a Dell, but not anything like it does on Macbook. I suspect cheap devices are using Chinese knockoff chipsets, and not the brand name parts.

If I use a cheap Bluetooth device near my MacBook my WiFi speed drops to about 100K per second. I can make the connection drop by moving the mouse back and forth quickly. If I switch the mouse off, my WiFi recovers.

After purchasing the Apple Bluetooth mouse ($89 Singapore dollars) the WiFi problem went away. The Apple mouse as better designed (and works very well, I might add).

Apple has a reputation for bad firmware on its devices. Remember back in 2008 they forgot to secure the built in web cam? That is why some nefarious coders were able to modify the camera firmware. They told the camera to ignore the "Standby" signal. That is why the camera could be switched on without driving the LED.
 
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maxsix

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Jun 28, 2015
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WiFi issues are an ongoing problem (for years) that Apple is aware of.

It's pure speculation to say why they don't seem to be able to fix it, or won't fix it. As of 10.10.4 we have too many faulty Macs in the R&D Center at work that have WiFi problems, it sure reflects poorly on Apple.

One can only surmise that Apple simply isn't making it a priority.

Perhaps the Macs in Cupertino are Hard Wired... LOL
 

Linuxpro

macrumors regular
Jan 31, 2015
174
4
Singapore
They are spending too much resource on the Apple watch. They are trying to rope in new customer by offering a new "must have" product.

Those of us who already bought have no meaning to Apple. Most of us do not come to forums until after we bought and discovered that the products are "wanting".

My MacBook will likley be my last Apple.
 
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MUBiomed

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Apr 24, 2010
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I had never had any trouble with my iMac and since the new 10.10.4 update WiFi is never connected when waking from sleep and generally has to be turned off and on to reconnect.
 
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