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If you are asking if Windows will go away then not anytime in the near future. I don't even think that they will get close on market share for a long time if ever. Apple is a hardware company and Microsoft is a software company and liscense their OS so people buy the cheap computers with Windows on them and will probably always continue to do so unless PC manufacturers switch to linux or Apple licenses their OS which would hurt their sales of hardware and lead to less revenue for them. So I don't think it will happen unless something major changes.
 

clevin

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Aug 6, 2006
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I was wondering if this will ever happen.

how?
just ask yourself

1. do u think apple is capable of producing that many machines? physically?
2. do u think intel/AMD/ATi/Nvidia will stop producing the products that is not in apple product lines? for that matter, do u think those hardware manufacturers (sound cards, CPU, HDD, CD/DVD ROM/RW, LCD, CAM, Battery, mainboard, Graphic card, etc, etc) whose products are not adopted by apple will just die by themselves?

with Apple's current model, OSX does not have a chance to achieve >15% marketshare, not to mention 95%. I for one, feel sorry for such a great OS (sure I can't rule out the possibility that the stability might go down once OSX supports more hardwares)
 

MisterMe

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Jul 17, 2002
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No, if it did Apple would be sued for having a monopoly, have to open OS X up to other computer manufactures, and OS X would be in the same position was Windows currently is.
Um-m-m-m, no. You are wrong on several accounts. If Apple increased its marketshare, then it would not necessarily have a monopoly. Even so, Microsoft was not sued for having a monopoly and neither would Apple be sued for having a monopoly. Microsoft was sued for abusing its monopoly power. So long as Apple achieved its monopoly honestly and did not abuse its monopoly power, it would have little to worry about in this regard.
 

aLoC

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Nov 10, 2006
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I can certainly see a danger for Microsoft. Apple has a knack for developing popular gadgets: the iPod of course, and soon the iPhone.

If Apple gets enough of these gadgets then gradually drops Windows support for them, that could kill Windows in the home. Ask yourself: in a future Internet connected world, where everyone has 2 or 3 gadgets on their body, will it be more important to them that their home computer runs Office or that it runs all their gadgets?

If gadget integration becomes more important than application selection, then Mac becomes more important than Windows.
 

Zwhaler

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It won't. I don't want it to. That likely would mean viruses... honestly I wish that nobody else used Macs except for the people that already do. It is cool to have a small Mac community like we have here :)
 

sushi

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It won't. I don't want it to. That likely would mean viruses... honestly I wish that nobody else used Macs except for the people that already do. It is cool to have a small Mac community like we have here :)
I hear what you are saying.

However, it would be great if the market share increased to 10-15 percent. At that level, there would be many more applications/developers for the platform.
 

miniConvert

macrumors 68040
Well, I believe everything's for sale at the right price.

Maybe, one day, an OEM will cough up so much money to licence Apple's OS X that they'll go through with it. Vista hasn't exactly inspired confidence, it's not impossible to imagine a world where the Windows OEM's clammer for what appears to be 'another way'.

I don't think OS X will ever have a greater market share than Windows the way things are now, but I, like many, quite like things this way :)
 

schmintan

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i dread the thought of it happening. OSX is a cracking OS ( as is windows IMO). both have good and bad points. and as bad as many people think Microsoft are, i believe apple would be a gazillion times worse than microsoft, regarding gaining and holding a monopoly. and also, if OSX did become as big, many of its failings would be because of its success. i mean , do you think there are very few viruses and general nasty things out there for OSX because its indestructible??? not likely. its because any nasty folks writing malicious code wants to hit the largest amount of computers. if you write your code to target windows, you are targeting the largest market share by miles. if OSX became as big, im guessing there would be just as many viruses and what not out there to trip it up. and i think they could not simply include itunes and the like, just as microsoft were fined for including media player for years, as they were accused of basically tying up the market. so just hope, for many reasons that OSX and apple dont become too big
 

Le Big Mac

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not replace. OS X is considered an alternative to windows. For OS X to "replace" windows, it would have to suck just as bad....

Putting aside the second sentence, it could happen but only after a long evolution of both. If it ever happens, I suspect we'll be at OS XIII and about 3 or 4 versions of windows down the road. and computers will be something entirely different. As will Apple.
 

MisterMe

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Jul 17, 2002
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i dread the thought of it happening. ... i mean , do you think there are very few viruses and general nasty things out there for OSX because its indestructible??? not likely. its because any nasty folks writing malicious code wants to hit the largest amount of computers. if you write your code to target windows, you are targeting the largest market share by miles. if OSX became as big, im guessing there would be just as many viruses and what not out there to trip it up. and i think ...
:rolleyes: Not another "security by obscurity" believer! This notion has been discredited so many times that it hardly seems worth responding to.
 

The General

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Jul 7, 2006
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Come on man, no way! Everyone knows that Vista is the almighty power of the universe! How could something replace that ... :rolleyes:
 

schmintan

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:rolleyes: Not another "security by obscurity" believer! This notion has been discredited so many times that it hardly seems worth responding to.

you know it as well as i know it, if you had the world writing viruses for MacOS, it wouldnt be long until it would need a dedicated virus protection system, as windows does. bask in ignorance if you wish, but its true
 

whooleytoo

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Um-m-m-m, no. You are wrong on several accounts. If Apple increased its marketshare, then it would not necessarily have a monopoly. Even so, Microsoft was not sued for having a monopoly and neither would Apple be sued for having a monopoly. Microsoft was sued for abusing its monopoly power. So long as Apple achieved its monopoly honestly and did not abuse its monopoly power, it would have little to worry about in this regard.

I don't agree. Microsoft is in hot water over things like bundling Windows Media Player with the OS, if Apple was in a similar position, they'd likely fact the same measures. Imagine an OSX without Quicktime? Hence, without iTunes? Hence, without the ability 'out of the box' to sync with iPods?

If Apple had a similar share in the future to Microsoft's now, they'd probably have it even worse as Apple don't license the OS to other PC manufacturers.
 

schmintan

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Mar 1, 2007
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I don't agree. Microsoft is in hot water over things like bundling Windows Media Player with the OS, if Apple was in a similar position, they'd likely fact the same measures. Imagine an OSX without Quicktime? Hence, without iTunes? Hence, without the ability 'out of the box' to sync with iPods?

If Apple had a similar share in the future to Microsoft's now, they'd probably have it even worse as Apple don't license the OS to other PC manufacturers.

bullseye!
 

MisterMe

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Jul 17, 2002
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....

If Apple had a similar share in the future to Microsoft's now, they'd probably have it even worse as Apple don't license the OS to other PC manufacturers.
This is exactly wrong. Microsoft legal troubles stemmed from the fact that it illegally exerts control over other manufacturers' hardware. Apple sells its operating system only with or for its own hardware. It does not support nor does it attempt to control manufacturers' hardware. So long as Apple limits its operating system on its own hardware, it is pretty much free to do with it want it wants.

To schmintan, that bullseye belonged to the wrong bull.
 

whooleytoo

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Aug 2, 2002
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Cork, Ireland.
This is exactly wrong. Microsoft legal troubles stemmed from the fact that it illegally exerts control over other manufacturers' hardware. Apple sells its operating system only with or for its own hardware. It does not support nor does it attempt to control manufacturers' hardware. So long as Apple limits its operating system on its own hardware, it is pretty much free to do with it want it wants.

Microsoft is in various shades of trouble - the massive fines it faced in Europe for instance (over $600m) related to the bundling of a media player with the OS, and making it difficult for rival companies to make interoperable servers.

Given that Apple bundles a media player (and much more) with its OS, and
has taken deliberate measures to make Apple products non-interoperable with rivals' (the breaking of compatibility with Real's Harmony, for example), I can't see how Apple would escape when Microsoft have been dragged through the courts time and again.

If Microsoft announced tomorrow, that to run Windows you must buy a Microsoft manufactured PC, the company would find itself in dozens of lawsuits by week's end. If Apple had a 90% market share, why would it be any different?
 

schmintan

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Mar 1, 2007
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This is exactly wrong. Microsoft legal troubles stemmed from the fact that it illegally exerts control over other manufacturers' hardware. Apple sells its operating system only with or for its own hardware. It does not support nor does it attempt to control manufacturers' hardware. So long as Apple limits its operating system on its own hardware, it is pretty much free to do with it want it wants.

To schmintan, that bullseye belonged to the wrong bull.

your comment makes no sense to me? however, il assume your saying i was wrong to support the belief that apple would be nastier than microsoft. believe what you want, ignorance stems from stupidity.
 
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