Will the 16" MacBook Pro get one last Intel hurrah?

[RedTheReader]

There are strong rumors that although Apple's been developing an Extreme Apple Silicon powered Mac Pro, the Intel model's due to get one last update of significance alongside it. This makes sense. It's possible to imagine workloads that need more fat cores, and can make use of x86 traditional GPUS.

What was also once rumored but didn't end up happening was the release of an updated Intel 16" MacBook Pro before the Apple Silicon versions came out. I wouldn't expect this because it's been almost 2 years since the report and we already got the M1 version of the 16", but I'm curious to know what you all think. I'd certainly like to see 12 or 13th gen on Apple's machines, but I don't think it's happening. That ship has sailed.

 

[Fishrrman]

No.

 

[hovscorpion12]

At this point it's unclear. As far as the latest MacBook Pro rumors, it does look like Apple Silicon is here to stay.

At this time, I don't think either Intel or AMD can reach Apple's expectations of performance to battery ratio anymore.

Unless there's a way to put the specs of the MSI Titan into a MacBook Pro Aluminum body with 10-hour battery life plugged in, unplugged and zero-fan noise.

 

[PauloSera]

Lmao. Why would you "like" to see that? Are you familiar with the Apple Silicon MacBook Pro at all? The machine it replaced was a disgrace by comparison. The performance, the heat, the battery life, the solid build of the device. They aren't even comparable. The Intel MBP was a joke compared to what we have now.

 

[hovscorpion12]

Lmao. Why would you "like" to see that? Are you familiar with the Apple Silicon MacBook Pro at all? The machine it replaced was a disgrace by comparison. The performance, the heat, the battery life, the solid build of the device. They aren't even comparable. The Intel MBP was a joke compared to what we have now.

Granted, after 2-years of Apple Silicon, there are still top applications that do not support Apple Silicon and perform worse when used under Roseta [while using a AS Mac].

Also, the Intel 16-inch launched in 2019. The latest 13gen CPUs are significantly better than the 10th Gen chips.

If you compared the M1 Max MacBook Pro vs the Razer 17, you'd have ~equal performance [when spec'd correctly]

 

[PauloSera]

Granted, after 2-years of Apple Silicon, there are still top applications that do not support Apple Silicon and perform worse when used under Roseta [while using a AS Mac].

Also, the Intel 16-inch launched in 2019. The latest 13gen CPUs are significantly better than the 10th Gen chips.

If you compared the M1 Max MacBook Pro vs the Razer 17, you'd have ~equal performance [when spec'd correctly]

"Top", lmao.

Like what?

 

[FreakinEurekan]

Hahahahahahahahaha no.

 

[Yebubbleman]

There are strong rumors that although Apple's been developing an Extreme Apple Silicon powered Mac Pro, the Intel model's due to get one last update of significance alongside it. This makes sense. It's possible to imagine workloads that need more fat cores, and can make use of x86 traditional GPUS.

What was also once rumored but didn't end up happening was the release of an updated Intel 16" MacBook Pro before the Apple Silicon versions came out. I wouldn't expect this because it's been almost 2 years since the report and we already got the M1 version of the 16", but I'm curious to know what you all think. I'd certainly like to see 12 or 13th gen on Apple's machines, but I don't think it's happening. That ship has sailed.

At best, you might've gotten a 10th Gen H-series refresh to the 16-inch MacBook Pro that would've occurred around the time of the release of the iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2020). But, that never happened. And, as soon as the first M1 Macs came out, that became dead in the water. Plus, it's not like you gained much going from 9th Gen H-series to 10th Gen H-series (certainly not as much as was gained by 10th Gen in the 27-inch iMac and four-port 13-inch MacBook Pros, relative to their respective predecessors).

The only Intel Mac release that seemed even close to likely to happen AFTER the appearance of the first Apple Silicon Macs was an Intel Mac Pro configuration using a new batch of Xeon chips that was supposedly to announce alongside a more proper Apple Silicon Mac Pro so as to give those users needed flexibility during this transition. Drivers for such a Mac appeared in early Monterey builds, but never materialized. That one is probably not happening either, at this point.

And honestly, that's probably for the best. I'm not a fan of what this switch to Apple's SoCs from Intel processors means for the ability to freely and natively boot Windows (let alone, x86-64 versions of Windows) nor for the ability to virtualize x86 and x86-64 operating systems. But, barring that, I cannot deny that Apple Silicon Macs perform way better and are the future of the Mac as far as Apple is concerned.

 

[maflynn]

Apple's been developing an Extreme Apple Silicon powered Mac Pro

Maybe not:
The Apple silicon Mac Pro we’re all waiting for just got a lot more (and less) interesting

Now for the bad news. Apple has reportedly shelved its plans for an “M2 Extreme” chip that would have fused four M2 Max chips together. Gurman says Apple made the decision during testing due to “both the complexity and cost of producing a processor” so large and complex.

the Intel model's due to get one last update of significance alongside it.

That would send mixed messages, like Apple is incapable of producing a pro level computer and still needs to rely on Intel. Apple needs (and is) to go all in with their ARM processors. I would view Apple releasing an intel based machine a huge mistake. They've spent the last 2 years saying how much more advanced and powerful and effecient that M1 over Intel and now they released an intel based computer?

 

[Lihp8270]

Granted, after 2-years of Apple Silicon, there are still top applications that do not support Apple Silicon and perform worse when used under Roseta [while using a AS Mac].

Also, the Intel 16-inch launched in 2019. The latest 13gen CPUs are significantly better than the 10th Gen chips.

If you compared the M1 Max MacBook Pro vs the Razer 17, you'd have ~equal performance [when spec'd correctly]

Which applications perform worse on AS compared to on an Intel mac?

 

[Lihp8270]

At this point it's unclear. As far as the latest MacBook Pro rumors, it does look like Apple Silicon is here to stay.

At this time, I don't think either Intel or AMD can reach Apple's expectations of performance to battery ratio anymore.

Unless there's a way to put the specs of the MSI Titan into a MacBook Pro Aluminum body with 10-hour battery life plugged in, unplugged and zero-fan noise.

You’re not gonna get the battery life from x86 at AS performance levels.

 

[chrono1081]

Probably not. Intel dug their own grave by letting project management and marketers run the companies product line instead of the engineers and everyone leap frogged.

 

[glhiii]

Seems to me a new MBP Intel would be a waste of resources for Apple. It would probably take quite a bit of effort to engineer and would be bought by very few people.

 

[maflynn]

Seems to me a new MBP Intel would be a waste of resources for Apple. It would probably take quite a bit of effort to engineer and would be bought by very few people.

And paying intel for a product that basically has no long term future

 

[MBAir2010]

If it is not broke,e why fix it?

and Argentina will put Messi in goal with gloves
before  puts an intel in their line up.

 

[Pilot Jones]

I have never been more sure of something not happening

 

[Marsikus]

At this time, I don't think either Intel or AMD can reach Apple's expectations of performance to battery ratio anymore.

That why it could have sense for workstation market, if some big customers insist on prolonging of Intel line. But not for laptops though.