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Not being able to use TomTom is what is making me hesitate on buying ..... :(

Why TomTom? TomTom is a company other than Apple.

As far as GPS being built into iPhone in next version... I sure do hope so. But, I suppose only Apple knows that at this time.

:)
 
I certainly hope not. If you want GPS, buy a real GPS receiver. Antennas, power consumption, basemap size, routing algorithms, all that chewing up a phone's storage and memory is a frightening concept, and one guaranteed to generate a new round of complaints.

I use Google Maps (more than I though I would) to quickly identify places, but for real routing management, I use a real GPS. Always have, always will. There's a limit to what an all-in-one device can and should do, and I think GPS-enabled phones are over the top for real routing needs.

Granted, I'm all over the US (coast to coast, 35-40 weeks a year), so I may be an extreme example, but the added overhead to the phone that a true 12-channel receiver and the other features and battery life consumed would just not be worth it.
 
Will the NEXT iPhone have integrated GPS ??

NeXT is no longer in business they were acquired by Apple awhile back. I don't think they had a phone in their product line.
 
I certainly hope not. If you want GPS, buy a real GPS receiver. Antennas, power consumption, basemap size, routing algorithms, all that chewing up a phone's storage and memory is a frightening concept, and one guaranteed to generate a new round of complaints.

I use Google Maps (more than I though I would) to quickly identify places, but for real routing management, I use a real GPS. Always have, always will. There's a limit to what an all-in-one device can and should do, and I think GPS-enabled phones are over the top for real routing needs.

Granted, I'm all over the US (coast to coast, 35-40 weeks a year), so I may be an extreme example, but the added overhead to the phone that a true 12-channel receiver and the other features and battery life consumed would just not be worth it.


basic GPS would still be nice.
 
It would be a cool feature but I'd probably use it once or twice a year.
Not really that important IMO.
 
Why TomTom? TomTom is a company other than Apple.

Next time you're in a bookstore like Borders, look in the computer magazine section for a UK periodical called "PDA Essentials & GPS". Very slick mag about PDAs, Phones, GPS systems, usually with a CD included with programs for various phones.

You'll find out that TomTom is a favorite overseas, and that the iPhone (or any phone) are just a tiny drop in a huge sea of devices.
 
Next time you're in a bookstore like Borders, look in the computer magazine section for a UK periodical called "PDA Essentials & GPS". Very slick mag about PDAs, Phones, GPS systems, usually with a CD included with programs for various phones.

You'll find out that TomTom is a favorite overseas, and that the iPhone (or any phone) are just a tiny drop in a huge sea of devices.

How DARE you refer to the iPhone as a "tiny drop in a huge sea of devices," lest you incur the wrath of the Apple purists... :rolleyes:

I'll have to check that magazine out. It sounds cool!
 
I can live without integrated GPS. Not that I wouldn't buy an iPhone if it came with GPS.

But for the immediate future I'd love to see Apple modify the iPhone's BT stack to allow connectivity with a GPS puck and software interfacing with the Googlemaps app.
 
Next time you're in a bookstore like Borders, look in the computer magazine section for a UK periodical called "PDA Essentials & GPS". Very slick mag about PDAs, Phones, GPS systems, usually with a CD included with programs for various phones.

You'll find out that TomTom is a favorite overseas, and that the iPhone (or any phone) are just a tiny drop in a huge sea of devices.

Tom Tom has a great UI but sadly their maps for the US are lacking.
 
This is so lame why would you ant GPS built in so that you can have a huge 3 inch thick cell phone??!! Give me a break I have the worlds smallest bluetooth GPS receiver and while small I would not want to add that much size to my Phone.

There is a legit solution just hack a GPS program to work or make an Iphone GPS program, Or in my case wait for someone to make one, then with the bluetooth receiver you will have GPS on you Iphone- you just wont have to have a fat phone to do it.

The ultimate would be if Google could make a GPS program that would connect to bluetooth devices, for the Iphone, Or web based (preferably not web-based).

The other fault on this is that we have to get apple to allow more bluetooth capabilities on on Iphone.
 
This is so lame why would you ant GPS built in so that you can have a huge 3 inch thick cell phone??!! Give me a break I have the worlds smallest bluetooth GPS receiver and while small I would not want to add that much size to my Phone.

There is a legit solution just hack a GPS program to work or make an Iphone GPS program, Or in my case wait for someone to make one, then with the bluetooth receiver you will have GPS on you Iphone- you just wont have to have a fat phone to do it.

The ultimate would be if Google could make a GPS program that would connect to bluetooth devices, for the Iphone, Or web based (preferably not web-based).

The other fault on this is that we have to get apple to allow more bluetooth capabilities on on Iphone.

Pretty sure the N95 isn't 3inches thick :p

But yes just let me connect to a Blue Tooth receiver and install software. Worked great with my Treo and would like to see it work with Google maps.
 
This is so lame why would you ant GPS built in so that you can have a huge 3 inch thick cell phone??!! Give me a break I have the worlds smallest bluetooth GPS receiver and while small I would not want to add that much size to my Phone..

Plenty of very thin phones have GPS.

Virtually every Verizon or Sprint handheld has GPS.

Also, have you seen the SDIO chip addon ones?
 
My biggest concern about GPS in a iPhone must be size, prize and battery life. Many people don't need GPS in a mobile, so the best solution must be to make a GPS accessory to the iPhone.

Something like this

But then again, you usually only have 1 "cigar jack" (don't know the word) in you car, but you'll need two in this solution. So that's also a problem.

The solution:
Make it just as sleek, same price, same battery life and with GPS built in:D:apple:
I'm sure they can do that in a couple of years...
 
If you don't know where you are or where you are going, what use is a GPS? On the other hand, Google maps and a little pre-planning works well and is a whole lot safer.
 
If you don't know where you are or where you are going, what use is a GPS? On the other hand, Google maps and a little pre-planning works well and is a whole lot safer.

because gps tells you where you are...


on the other hand, I don't mind not having gps. I'm pretty sure I know my way around town. It would be nice, but I wouldn't sacrifice the size of the iphone just to have gps.
 
because gps tells you where you are...


on the other hand, I don't mind not having gps. I'm pretty sure I know my way around town. It would be nice, but I wouldn't sacrifice the size of the iphone just to have gps.
I basically agree. My point was that any traveler should know where they are. If the iPhone included a GPS locater provided by the carrier, integrated with Google Maps sans all the bells and whistles, I would be satisfied.
By safer, I meant that planning your route before driving away and knowing where you were going prevents the distractions from trying to follow GPS directions while underway.
 
I basically agree. My point was that any traveler should know where they are.

Have you used "in car" GPS? Since my new car has GPS I use it quite often. Like going to a new Golf Course that I have not played before. The problem with printing a map and then following the directions on the map is you have to read it, sometimes while driving. With GPS it just tells you step my step and when the next turn is coming. Too me this is safer then trying to memorize the instructions or keep referring to them.

As far as knowing where you are. I just got back from San Diego. I used my wifes car which does not have GPS (needed a larger car for the trip). Since I have my new iPhone I plugged in all of the locations (as contacts) I would be at so I could easily pull up the map using Google Maps. It was pretty good UNTIL I got lost and did not have the new starting point. With GPS your mapping program can just re-calculate a new map automatically.

I think the least they could do would be to support Bluetooth GPS. Bluetooth is already on the phone.
 
Some of you guys need to get up to speed with what the mobile handset industry is up to !! :p

Check out HTC = http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm :rolleyes:

They are producing Kick Ass handsets which are smaller than the iPhone with great battery life and built-in GPS which are smaller than the iPhone !! ;)

I have the HTC P3300 (T-mobile Compact 3) and it works flawlessly with Sat Nav ..... so much so that I couldn't live without it now !! :D

Separate GPS modules suck ass big time now that I have experienced an All In One unit !! :)

Realistically, GPS is going to become a STANDARD feature on future handsets and Apple would be foolish to leave it out of the next upgrade of the iPhone ..... :cool:
 
Some of you guys need to get up to speed with what the mobile handset industry is up to !! :p

Check out HTC = http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm :rolleyes:

...

I like HTC. I have the HTC Trinity (3600.) Mine is well decked out, (WM6 (PDAVIET 3.00.07.13,) with the HTC plug,) GPS (with iGO,) G3, streaming radio/tv, Insight news-scroll on the Today screen, the full unabridged Wikipedia on its 4GB SD, etc.. It does a lot more stuff than the iPhone.

BUT, having just gotten an iPhone for my wife, I must say that the iPhone is in a totally different league, even with all of its shortcomings.

The user experience of the iPhone is mind-blowing, compared to any other phone I've seen. My wife had an HTC before (Wizard, also decked out, with WM6) and did NOT like using it. She LOVES her new iPhone.

I like the iPHone too, but I am not ready to dump my HTC yet. I like the G3 and I do use the GPS when we travel (locally, my cars' GPS systems are better: bigger screen, better accuracy (built-ins have gyros, better antennas:)) I would, however dump my HTC in a heartbeat if the iPhone got GPS and 3G.

But, IMO, the iPhone would serve most users better than an HTC for common daily tasks (like talking on the phone, casually checking email, or watching youtube stuff.) The iPhone is just easier and more pleasant to use. And the "WOW" factor of the iPhone is way, way better than any HTC or other phone out there.
 
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