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TheRealAlex

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I’ve personally transitionEd every device I have to OLED or MiniLED. But I refuse to go 12.9” for my iPad Pro. 11” is the right size. But will Apple take the 11” iPad Pro OLED or MiniLED ?
 

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I’ve personally transitionEd every device I have to OLED or MiniLED. But I refuse to go 12.9” for my iPad Pro. 11” is the right size. But will Apple take the 11” iPad Pro OLED or MiniLED ?

My guess is MiniLED. At the very least they’ll have the same display tech in both models.

But I refuse to go 11” for my iPad Pro. 12.9” is the right size.
 

UBS28

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OLED displays are only suitable for dark theatre rooms.

Since the iPad is a portable device is targetted for outside use, the 11” will also get mini-LED.

Samsung has a new OLED technology in the works which addresses the limitations of OLED (except for burn-in), but not a chance Samsung will sell those displays to Apple for cheap (as Apple want a big profit margin for their $3trillion market cap).
 

FlyingDutch

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I literally hate OLED technology. Its organic nature make it literally degrading day after day, not to speak about flaws like burn-in. Mini-LED, and micro-LED when it will be available, are the way to go. I’m looking forward to have a mini-LED iPhone.
 
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Natzoo

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I’m looking forward to have a mini-LED iPhone.
I hope the phone stays OLED, I get Mini-LED is cheaper but it is also inferior. Blooming is one issue, OLED phones can be very bright and have true blacks (iPhone 13 pro max has 1000 nits with a peak at 1600). The mini-LED MBP does not get any brighter, which is my issue. If it was an upgrade, why not boost the typical brightness. But I don't hate it.

I am not too worried about burn-in, 3 years on the xs max and it is still working great. What I plan to do is replace the display on my 13 pro max once applecare+ runs out.

Don't know much about micro-LED, will read more about it. Sounds interesting.
 
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Digitalguy

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I hope the phone stays OLED, I get Mini-LED is cheaper but it is also inferior. Blooming is one issue, OLED phones can be very bright and have true blacks (iPhone 13 pro max has 1000 nits with a peak at 1600). The mini-LED MBP does not get any brighter, which is my issue. If it was an upgrade, why not boost the typical brightness. But I don't hate it.

I am not too worried about burn-in, 3 years on the xs max and it is still working great. What I plan to do is replace the display on my 13 pro max once applecare+ runs out.

Don't know much about micro-LED, will read more about it. Sounds interesting.
Burn-in is an issue that is greatly exaggerated, especially by some people who experienced it with older OLED technology like that of 5-7 years ago. The vast majority of OLED screen made in the last 4-5 years are 100% fine. Having said that OLED makes more sense on a phone or tablet than on a laptop where parts of the screen are always the same for many hours.
 

FlyingDutch

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Burn-in is an issue that is greatly exaggerated, especially by some people who experienced it with older OLED technology like that of 5-7 years ago. The vast majority of OLED screen made in the last 4-5 years are 100% fine. Having said that OLED makes more sense on a phone or tablet than on a laptop where parts of the screen are always the same for many hours.
Burn-in is an issue. It is part of the organic nature of OLED, so you can mitigate it, but not eliminate it entirely.
 

FlyingDutch

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I hope the phone stays OLED, I get Mini-LED is cheaper but it is also inferior. Blooming is one issue, OLED phones can be very bright and have true blacks (iPhone 13 pro max has 1000 nits with a peak at 1600). The mini-LED MBP does not get any brighter, which is my issue. If it was an upgrade, why not boost the typical brightness. But I don't hate it.

I am not too worried about burn-in, 3 years on the xs max and it is still working great. What I plan to do is replace the display on my 13 pro max once applecare+ runs out.

Don't know much about micro-LED, will read more about it. Sounds interesting.
Burn-in is jut ONE of the flaws of OLED technology.
Subpixel are deteriorating the exact moment you started using your iPhone, and maybe you cannot notice it, but the display is not the same it was 3 years ago (some subpixels are deteriorating at faster pace).
 

Digitalguy

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Burn-in is an issue. It is part of the organic nature of OLED, so you can mitigate it, but not eliminate it entirely.
Yes but you have exaggerated the issue. You can easily mitigate the issue in smartphones and tablet and have no visible degradation for many years nowadays... Where OLED should not be used is in laptops and monitors.
 

Sheepish-Lord

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I haven't seen any OLED TV being able to produce 4000 nits like my QLED Samsung TV can.
I highly doubt your panel has ever hit 4K nits unless you have your panel set to max brightness manually watching only HDR content and if you do it must be the most uncomfortable/eye searing experience imaginable especially when the sun goes down. While OLED currently can't reach what is considered to be the HDR minimum nits (approx. 1K), the improved contrast compared to a miniLED panel helps. Bottom line, if you watch in a very bright room (lots of windows/no curtains) then a miniLED will most likely be better as the higher nits battle reflections betters.

That said, I won't buy a Samsung panel until they give up on their proprietary HDR+ and adopt Dolby Vision.
 
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Sheepish-Lord

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I’ve personally transitionEd every device I have to OLED or MiniLED. But I refuse to go 12.9” for my iPad Pro. 11” is the right size. But will Apple take the 11” iPad Pro OLED or MiniLED ?
Apple seems sold on miniLED tech and I could see them replacing it on iPhones if they can get it to that size and costs. Personally I would rather have OLED as the response time in Apples miniLED panels are almost twice as bad as their current non-miniLED panels and unless you have ProMotion to help reduce this they just look bad. Example; an iPhone 13 Pro looks buttery smooth compared to a IPP miniLED 12.9 which, even with ProMotion, still looks blurry and has ghosting issues. Give me an iPad with an iPhone 13 Pro screen and it would be amazing!
 

MacManiac76

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It is true
May be true with subpar brand OLED panels, but it is not true for my LG OLED TV. I have had it for 4+ years with no burn-in issues whatsoever and I get great colors in a fully lit room as well as a dark room. So for the most part, it is definitely a myth, regardless of what marketing ads might tell you.
 

omeletpants

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May be true with subpar brand OLED panels, but it is not true for my LG OLED TV. I have had it for 4+ years with no burn-in issues whatsoever and I get great colors in a fully lit room as well as a dark room. So for the most part, it is definitely a myth, regardless of what marketing ads might tell you.
Nonsense. OLED is only suitable if you live in a cave or basement. In the real world with normal lighting virtually everyone prefers LCD
 
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