Windows 10 Removes Programs Without Asking!

[Red_Tiger]

Dear All,

I hope this message finds you all well.

Just wanted to put this out there in case anyone else is coming up against the same issues as I think I am going slightly mad.

I have a Macbook Pro 15" late 2011 model, which as a designer has been my workhorse for all my projects.

I run both Mac OSx (currently El Capitan) and Windows 10 via Bootcamp 6, I use my Windows partition for my 3D computer aided design software.

Before Windows 10, I had Windows 7 and everything seemed to play nice.

Apple in their wisdom have put a limit on which Bootcamp version I can install on my system...but there is a work around for this.

Now Windows 10 after some critical updates has decided it doesn't like certain applications and decides to remove them.

After doing some "Googling" I have found that they are removed due to potential conflicts without telling the user.

Most recently I had the Bootcamp driver removed......fun times.

I did think it was a virus but have done several scans with different antivirus programs but have turned up nothing.

If anyone else is having these issues please let me know, so then I am not the only one continuously installing things that go missing.

Thank you!

 

[maflynn]

Now Windows 10 after some critical updates has decided it doesn't like certain applications and decides to remove them

What application and are you sure it was windows and not your antivirus?

 

[monkeybagel]

Cisco IPSec VPN client gets removed as well via some Windows 10 updates.

 

[lowendlinux]

This has been all over the internet and has garnered it's just amount of nerd rage and nothing will change. If you want Microsoft to stop doing this stop using Windows.

 

[0004838]

You know what they say: if you're not paying, you're the product.

Windows 10 was released free for a year for reasons that I doubt include altruism.

EDIT: I decided my brevity sounded disrespectful, so let me just add that you have my sympathies. I've personally decided to entirely avoid Windows 10 after reading substantial reports on un-user friendly (in fact, distinctly user-hostile) behaviour in Win10. This is, at the moment, an OS to entirely avoid. Perhaps things will change after the first year and people have to start paying, but I have my doubts.

 

[maflynn]

You know what they say: if you're not paying, you're the product.

Technically Windows 10 is not a free product. You have pay for it, if you're buying a new comptuer (its baked into the cost of the PC), or you're building a computer, or you are upgrading from a version that's outside of the promotion. Then of course is the year deadline.

What about Apple and OS X? Unlike MS, their OS is free.

Windows 10 was released free for a year for reasons that I doubt include altruism.

Mostly to increase marketshare and acceptance.

Unlike Google, Facebook,Twitter, etc, where you are the product, MS is not giving away Windows to sell your data and trends. They've heavily discounted the upgrade in the past, only charging 30 dollars for the upgrade for a few months.

 

[0004838]

I'm going to make this my last post on this topic, out of respect to the OP. Please feel free to continue in PM if you feel it necessary.

Technically Windows 10 is not a free product. You have pay for it, if you're buying a new comptuer (its baked into the cost of the PC), or you're building a computer, or you are upgrading from a version that's outside of the promotion. Then of course is the year deadline.

I disagree heartily. Until July 29th, 2016, Windows 10 is most definitely a free product:

Microsoft is making Windows 10 available as a free upgrade for compatible devices that are running genuine Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or Windows 8.1 Update.

(from Microsoft's official FAQ)
That may not apply to everyone, but I'd hazard a guess that it applies to a huge number of people. Nevertheless, the fact that it does not apply to everyone, that does not make it incorrect to refer to it as, "free". I would say that in the majority of contexts, free is what Windows 10 is.

What about Apple and OS X? Unlike MS, their OS is free.

That's debatable. I'd say it's less free than Windows 10, in this context.

The End User License Agreement (EULA) for Apple Mac OS X legally and explicitly binds the installation and running of the operating system to Apple-labeled computers only.

(emphasis mine; from VMware's KB article, for the sake of expediency)

Mostly to increase marketshare and acceptance.

I'm not even sure that's true, but I can't outright disagree. I'd say there's a strong argument to be made that it's tantamount to an undeclared Public Beta:

[A]ny such guide [to tweaking Windows 10] would require constant editing over time as Microsoft alters Windows 10 on almost a monthly basis now.

(emphasis mine; from Tweak Guides.com, 28th March 2016 entry - I have purchased these guides for XP and 7 and have a great deal of respect for the author's knowledge of Windows, as must NVIDIA who employed him on the basis of his previous work)

Unlike Google, Facebook,Twitter, etc, where you are the product, MS is not giving away Windows to sell your data and trends.

Again, I disagree. I'll let you find your own sources for something so contentious (people give more credence to their own sources) but there's overwhelming evidence that Windows 10 sends a great deal of traffic Microsoft's way, relating to a great many user activities. I'm not claiming that the sole or even secondary purpose of Windows 10 is to send this data upstream, but it certainly seems to be an important aspect, given that the traffic is extremely difficult to stop—there are lengthy threads where people discuss how to permanently prevent Windows 10 sending this data to Microsoft, with no success.

We haven't even covered Microsoft's bullying tactics in getting people to upgrade…

Like I say, I'm not going to respond here further, but feel free to PM if it's important to you. I'd encourage you to look into this on your own, however, if it truly interests you. I've only learned enough to make my own decision on the matter, not enough to help others make theirs.

 

[maflynn]

I disagree heartily. Until July 29th, 2016, Windows 10 is most definitely a free product:

Microsoft is making Windows 10 available as a free upgrade for compatible devices that are running genuine Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or Windows 8.1 Update.

I have to buy Windows 10, if I build a PC. People who have XP, have to buy the upgrade. On or after day 365, consumers will have to buy the upgrade.

So yes, the upgrade is free for most people right now - at least those who are running windows 7 SP1 or later, but the operating system is not a free product, as some people still have to buy it. After the summer the free upgrade promotion will end.