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TECK

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Can we install Windows 11 with Boot Camp, on a Mac Pro 2019?
 

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NO its not native but you can get around the requirements for win 11 install. plenty of different ways to do it online but always subject to a windows 11 update spoiling it.
 
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avro707

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Can we install Windows 11 with Boot Camp, on a Mac Pro 2019?

You have to go Windows 10 first, then run upgrade for Windows 11 with workarounds to avoid the TPM requirements.

I had the additional requirement of Bootcamp hating my “external” storage (NVME connected to PCI-E card).

I’m running Windows 11 Pro for Workstations on my 7,1, it’s a very fast OS.
 
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avro707

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I was looking prior posting and did not find any official Apple instructions.

I was hoping Window 11 is supported natively, without workarounds.

No, it's not. It's the TPM requirement that stops it.

This is how I did it, but note this is for a 7,1 Mac Pro and not for a classic 5,1. For the 5,1 you probably are better not to do it.


If Microsoft brings an update that locks things down we are stuffed. Official instructions from Apple won't be around any time soon because it's not supported, even though our machines have no problems with running it very well.
 
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TECK

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Not, it's not. It's the TPM requirement that stops it.
Thank you all for the useful information, I'm reticent upgrading to 7,1 from 5,1 (running Windows 11 with OpenCore). Hopefully, they will release an upgraded Intel 8,1 with TPM support.
 

TrevorR90

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It runs "natively" as in the drivers on W10 work for W11. You would just need to bypass the tpm requirement. W11 works flawlessly on my 7,1.
 

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yeah, it's a really good system compared to W10, MS really did optimize it much better when they rewrote it, though there are still a few bugs here and there.

The TPM thing is the stupidest thing they implemented, and it doesn't seem like that is going to go away anytime soon. I was running W11 Pro on my 5,1 until I had some OpenCore issues, and then I lost my ability to access my Windows drive, so basically had to start from scratch. I was going to reinstall it, but bypassing the TPM thing on a 5,1 was a bit of a PITA, so I settled for just W10 Pro.
 

avro707

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Have any of you 7,1 owners got Macs fan control settings for the 7,1?

I want to try elevating the fan speeds while running a program in Windows 11 to prove or disprove a CTD I’m getting, but I don’t know what sensors to map to each of the four fan controls.
 

avro707

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We get that you don't think well of the 7,1 even how it looks :

It is looks like 6.1 is something from the future, whereas 7.1 is an old device.

Jan 4, 2020.

Unless Apple will give people a way to run windows natively going forward, then any Apple Silicon Mac Pro is not on my shopping list.
 

bontfaen

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You have to go Windows 10 first, then run upgrade for Windows 11 with workarounds to avoid the TPM requirements.

I had the additional requirement of Bootcamp hating my “external” storage (NVME connected to PCI-E card).

I’m running Windows 11 Pro for Workstations on my 7,1, it’s a very fast OS.
Have you managed to update Windows 11 Pro to version 22H2 with bootcamp on a Mac Pro 2019? I get a failure on first boot phase where it complains about existing drivers stopping the installation. Any ideas?
 

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Have you managed to update Windows 11 Pro to version 22H2 with bootcamp on a Mac Pro 2019? I get a failure on first boot phase where it complains about existing drivers stopping the installation. Any ideas?
Working fine for me (see my sig). This is what I did

If you have any drives connected via the mobo USB 3.0 port, or via PCIe, you have to disconnect those drives first.

Update: I would recommend sticking with 21H2. 22H2 has been giving me major issues both on a 5,1 running OpenCore as well as my 7,1, and I have rolled both back to 21H2 -- much more stable.
 
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tanoanian

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Use Rufus on a virtual machine to make a Windows 11 bootable USB installer without TPM and secure boot. Use Brigadier to download bootcamp drivers and install directly from the USB stick.

Don't waste your time installing windows 10.
 

bontfaen

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You have to go Windows 10 first, then run upgrade for Windows 11 with workarounds to avoid the TPM requirements.

I had the additional requirement of Bootcamp hating my “external” storage (NVME connected to PCI-E card).

I’m running Windows 11 Pro for Workstations on my 7,1, it’s a very fast OS.
Have you managed to get Windows 22H2 install on bootcamp on your Mac Pro 2019? I get a driver error failing on first boot phase (after completing the update)?
 

ArielZTD

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I was looking prior posting and did not find any official Apple instructions.

I was hoping Window 11 is supported natively, without workarounds.
Windows 11 is supported with no hacking using the genuine media from Microsoft. However there is a procedure that requires a compatible display and USB wired or wired equivalent keyboard and mouse. The apple bluetooth keyboard, mouse and thunderbolt displays are not supported during install. However they will work as usual once bootcamp is installed.
 

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profdraper

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You have to go Windows 10 first, then run upgrade for Windows 11 with workarounds to avoid the TPM requirements.

I had the additional requirement of Bootcamp hating my “external” storage (NVME connected to PCI-E card).

I’m running Windows 11 Pro for Workstations on my 7,1, it’s a very fast OS.
Exactly the same here, easy. Multiple ways to do this (google it); personally, I used GitHub's Media Creation toolkit as per https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/436972/install-windows-11-on-boot-camp

 
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ArielZTD

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Windows 11 is supported with no hacking using the genuine media from Microsoft. However there is a procedure that requires a compatible display and USB wired or wired equivalent keyboard and mouse. The apple bluetooth keyboard, mouse and thunderbolt displays are not supported during install. However they will work as usual once bootcamp is installed.
Here's a screenshot from the imported bootcamp under parallels.
 

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ArielZTD

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I was looking prior posting and did not find any official Apple instructions.

I was hoping Window 11 is supported natively, without workarounds.
It is (unofficially) supported, a work around no hacks or upgrades, here's a screenshot. I installed from the media creation tool right on metal no mods, just 2 registry keys, a usb keyboard/mouse and HDMI monitor.
 

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prefuse07

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Here's a screenshot from the imported bootcamp under parallels.

Please stop. We're not talking about parallels.

This thread is about getting FULL Windows 11 on a 7,1 Mac Pro. NOT using Parallels/virtualization as you do on apple silicon.

The easiest method is to use bootcamp assistant to install windows 10, then boot into windows 10, and use the MCT tool to install Windows 11. I even made a thread on it some time ago.
 
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ArielZTD

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Apologies, I am also supporting install on BARE METAL only the screenshot was taken from parallels after it was installed on metal, it works no hacks, no upgrades and on bare metal.
 

avro707

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It is (unofficially) supported, a work around no hacks or upgrades, here's a screenshot. I installed from the media creation tool right on metal no mods, just 2 registry keys, a usb keyboard/mouse and HDMI monitor.

HDMI monitor is only a requirement during the install phase. Once installed and you have added the Radeon Apple MPX module drivers then your thunderbolt displays will work.
 
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