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jashsayani

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I want to install Windows 7 RC1 (Build 7100) on my Mac mini. I need suggestions on what VM to use: VMware, VirtualBox, Parallels, or another one (let me know). It should run like its running natively and should not be sluggish at all...

I also need full Aero support.


Please throw some suggestions.... Thanks.
 

fishkorp

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I don't think you can get Aero in VMs. None of the companies mention it as a feature and I know VMWare is working on a driver for Vista, but they said it's a lot more difficult then people think.

And of course you mean that when RC is actually available, right ;) Since it'll be posted to MSDN on Thursday and to the public on May 5th. You're just looking for advice now for future planning, right?
 

The Flashing Fi

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I want to install Windows 7 RC1 (Build 7100) on my Mac mini. I need suggestions on what VM to use: VMware, VirtualBox, Parallels, or another one (let me know). It should run like its running natively and should not be sluggish at all...

So, you want it to run as if it's not in a virtual machine... Your best option for that is to run it via BootCamp.

A virtual machine can't run an OS at native speeds, sorry. You're not asking something that's possible right now.
 

jashsayani

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I don't think you can get Aero in VMs. None of the companies mention it as a feature and I know VMWare is working on a driver for Vista, but they said it's a lot more difficult then people think.

And of course you mean that when RC is actually available, right ;) Since it'll be posted to MSDN on Thursday and to the public on May 5th. You're just looking for advice now for future planning, right?

Well, I have read at many places that its difficult to get Aero working on a VM. However, there would be many running it. So, I am asking of Suggestions and hope to get a solution to that.

And as of the Windows 7 RC1: No. I am not future planning. I have the Build 7100 RC1 DVD in my hand right now. The May 5th date is for a Public release. :)
 

synagence

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VMware and parallels support DX9c in VM .... but you'll need the new macmini ... the old one doesn't work
 

neilhart

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I am fairly certain that you can not get there with a Mac Mini. I have VMware Fusion running Windows7 beta on a Q6600 with 4GBs of memory and while the performance is respectable it is dog slow compared to a native installation on the same lintel/Gigabyte/Nvida hardware.

Neil
 

Poncho

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I've been running the Beta using Parallels. Works a treat. Had a roblem with no sound at first, but an update to the Beta from Microshit solved it.
 

fishkorp

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VMware and parallels support DX9c in VM .... but you'll need the new macmini ... the old one doesn't work

You can get Aero in VMWare? A dev posted in the forum saying they're having difficulty figuring out the drivers and can't get it to work, even with their DX9 ShaderModel 2 support? Did they not update that post/info? The post says the shader support is only for XP, not Vista, because the driver is a lot more difficult in Vista. They couldn't figure out a virtual WDDM compliant driver.

Of course I've never tried, I'm still using XP in my VM, no need for Vista.


And OP, I was being...shall we say..."informative" to you. Discussion of acquiring thing by not-so-legitimate means is forbidden around here. Unless you torrented/newsgrouped the RC1 build, you don't have it (unless you work for MS, and then you wouldn't be looking for answers you'd already have). Like I said, it's not available to devs or MSDN people until Thursday. I know, I have an MSDN Universal subscription. And public release is the 5th. So I was helping you not get flamed for having it before release since there are rules around here about that stuff and a lot of people seem to have problems about acquiring software through the improper channels.
 

jashsayani

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VMware and parallels support DX9c in VM .... but you'll need the new macmini ... the old one doesn't work

Ok. I have the Old one (2nd Gen). Without the Nvidia card.


I am fairly certain that you can not get there with a Mac Mini. I have VMware Fusion running Windows7 beta on a Q6600 with 4GBs of memory and while the performance is respectable it is dog slow compared to a native installation on the same lintel/Gigabyte/Nvida hardware.

Neil

Well, I know VM is a bit slower.... I used Vista on VirtualBox earlier. But I would love to get it working at native speeds...


I've been running the Beta using Parallels. Works a treat. Had a roblem with no sound at first, but an update to the Beta from Microshit solved it.

I think Parallels is convincing. Is Aero working?

In that case i'll go for it.


And OP, I was being...shall we say..."informative" to you. Discussion of acquiring thing by not-so-legitimate means is forbidden around here. Unless you torrented/newsgrouped the RC1 build, you don't have it (unless you work for MS, and then you wouldn't be looking for answers you'd already have). Like I said, it's not available to devs or MSDN people until Thursday. I know, I have an MSDN Universal subscription. And public release is the 5th. So I was helping you not get flamed for having it before release since there are rules around here about that stuff and a lot of people seem to have problems about acquiring software through the improper channels.

Well, I have acquired it from a legit source. A friend is at M$ and gave me the disk. However, he is a Windows user and I am a Mac user, so I need help on getting it on VM as smoothly as possible, so the system is not sluggish.
 
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