WINDOWS 7 update catastrophe in the making...

[seashellz]

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-12546_102-0.html?messageID=3151730&tag=nl.e497#3151730
dozens -hundreds of letters to just this advice one columnist-saying it is a widespread tale of woe; My fave:

Stop the cycle
by mstakelt - 10/16/09 7:30 PM In reply to: Windows update went bad, now my PC is stuck in endless updating cycle by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
You have my sympathy. This happened to me twice, and
each time, I was forced to format my hard drive and
reinstall Vista and all of my programs. I called support
at HP and Microsoft, and paid the tech support people acted
as if it were the first time they heard this complaint.
I finally gave up, and started from scratch and then bought
a 1TB hard drive to accomodate my incessant backups of
both files and hard drive. Finally, I disabled all auto-updates from Microsoft and have opted not to install any of their offerings,
as the risk to my computer was greater with updates than without.
I'm putting a lot of hope in the new Windows 7, and have
decided that my next laptop will be a Mac.

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[50548]

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-12546_102-0.html?messageID=3151730&tag=nl.e497#3151730
dozens -hundreds of letters to just this advice one columnist-saying it is a widespread tale of woe; My fave:

Stop the cycle
by mstakelt - 10/16/09 7:30 PM In reply to: Windows update went bad, now my PC is stuck in endless updating cycle by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
You have my sympathy. This happened to me twice, and
each time, I was forced to format my hard drive and
reinstall Vista and all of my programs. I called support
at HP and Microsoft, and paid the tech support people acted
as if it were the first time they heard this complaint.
I finally gave up, and started from scratch and then bought
a 1TB hard drive to accomodate my incessant backups of
both files and hard drive. Finally, I disabled all auto-updates from Microsoft and have opted not to install any of their offerings,
as the risk to my computer was greater with updates than without.
I'm putting a lot of hope in the new Windows 7, and have
decided that my next laptop will be a Mac.

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It's Microshaft we're talking about...so no surprises here.

 

[NT1440]

I can't even install the $30 student offer they gave me because they ****ed up the download packages, it was on engadget yesterday

 

[Peace]

I've said this so many times I'm blue in the face. No matter what operating system it is always do a fresh install when a new OS comes out.

I've installed Windows 7 all the way from a early beta to the release and have never had a problem installing it.

I don't even know why companies offer updates.

 

[GoCubsGo]

How soon we forget the Snow Leopard catastrophe when Windows 7 becomes problematic.

 

[xUKHCx]

It's Microshaft we're talking about...so no surprises here.

It is not like it is unheard of with OS X either.

 

[OllyW]

I updated my PC last night from Vista to 7 with no problems at all. I also updated both of my Macs to Snow Leopard a couple of months back without any issues.

As long as you back up before installing I don't see what the risk is in trying the update route.

 

[djellison]

I've said this so many times I'm blue in the face. No matter what operating system it is always do a fresh install when a new OS comes out.

Bingo.

SL upgrades are, from my experience, very very slow and troublesome. Apple made such a point of how great the upgrade path was, it was the first OS upgrade I've ever done. One hour after it was finished and I'd tried it - I was reinstalling from scratch anyway - having wasted about 90 minutes of my time in the process. I tried again on my older MBP that lives at work - and going the upgrade path has reduced it to a crawling mess. Never again am I upgrading an OS.

I installed Win 7 on my desktop at home last night. Took <30 minutes from start to finish and everything worked perfectly once it was done. I was online playing L4D in under an hour. It has to be the easiest and fastest OS install I've ever done.

 

[dukebound85]

i think id rather have this problem than SL issue of deleting all of your data

bugs are to be expected

 

[Unprocessed1]

Jeez, kind of a ridiculous title...

Kind of funny, because SL was botched in a similar way, with lack of printer drivers and frequent program crashes and random deleting of your data .

On topic, Windows immediately acknowledged the problem, and I'm sure they'll just ship them all install CD's. It's also ironic when Apple makes a mistake it takes them days, usually weeks, and sometimes months to simply acknowledge it and offer a solution. Microsoft did it the same day, so kudos to them for that (even if it was very surprising)

 

[9822737]

I've said this so many times I'm blue in the face. No matter what operating system it is always do a fresh install when a new OS comes out.

I've installed Windows 7 all the way from a early beta to the release and have never had a problem installing it.

I don't even know why companies offer updates.

I and several people I know didn't do a fresh install from Leopard to Snow Leopard and we have had no problems.

 

[velocityg4]

I and several people I know didn't do a fresh install from Leopard to Snow Leopard and we have had no problems.

I had a Macbook that I had just purchased and upgraded the hard drive and RAM. I then put a fresh install of Leopard on it. No other software at all (I had not had the chance).

The very next day Snow Leopard was released so I ran down and bought it that morning. I ran the upgrade and the OS was buggy, slow with programs installed after crashing. So I did a clean install after and everything worked great and fast.

The point being this is the first and last time I will try an upgrade install with any OS. If an upgrade over a virgin install of an operating system and computer made by the same company fail. How could I trust an OS upgrade on a computer with a year or more of use where the OS and computer are made by different entities?

 

[9822737]

I had a Macbook that I had just purchased and upgraded the hard drive and RAM. I then put a fresh install of Leopard on it. No other software at all (I had not had the chance).

The very next day Snow Leopard was released so I ran down and bought it that morning. I ran the upgrade and the OS was buggy, slow with programs installed after crashing. So I did a clean install after and everything worked great and fast.

The point being this is the first and last time I will try an upgrade install with any OS. If an upgrade over a virgin install of an operating system and computer made by the same company fail. How could I trust an OS upgrade on a computer with a year or more of use where the OS and computer are made by different entities?

You may have just been very unlucky, it was one instance. Although it would annoy the hell out of me too and make me wary.

 

[djellison]

Two machines here - exactly the same experience as v-g4. A very new install of L - upgrade to SL - and its turned unusable.

How does luck come in to this? It's 1's and 0's. It should just work.

Hmm - where've I heard that before.

 

[hexonxonx]

People seem to forget that people are also having trouble with Snow Leopard. Apple has it's share of problems to. People just like to rag on Microsoft.

 

[BongoBanger]

You have my sympathy. This happened to me twice, and each time, I was forced to format my hard drive and reinstall Vista

And this has what to do with Windows 7?

Moral of story: Always do a clean install no matter what OS you use.

 

[Unprocessed1]

Especially windows when you buy a computer. The manufacturers love to load the hard drive up with nonsense.

 

[tonyshucraft]

I had no problems with my install of Snow Leopard. In fact, it made things better.....kind of. We were having issues getting World of Warcraft working on my iMac with Leopard and could get it to run no matter what we did and went through hell with Blizzard's support team. Then I upgraded to SL and now I need to get a new Mac sometime in the near future due to lack of availability issues.

 

[MTI]

Catastrophe? Hardly, considering the vast majority of upgrades went very well.

Again, the success of either Microsoft or Apple, does not have to come at the failure of the other.

 

[angelneo]

How is this related to Windows 7? The linked thread in question is about Vista and their updates, nothing about upgrading Vista to 7. And the poster you quoted just mentioned that he/she hope Windows 7 will have better patch update rollout.