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guendalina

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Feb 9, 2007
2
0
Hello, I know my problem is PC related but I use this forum for my mac And I think is great plus I am really deperate I hope someone can help me please!!

I just bought a wonderful new desktop pc from dell with the WONDERFULL windows vista. unfortunatly it may be wonderfull but it doesn't support protools. therefore i have been trying for the past 6 hours to:

1: install windows XP (I have an original windows XP which I bought with another dell PC). that doesn't work beacause a window come up saying that the version of windows that i have already in my computer in newer and it cannot let me install windows XP. it also says look for solution on line.



2: I decided to reformat my hard disc with the w XP CD. I boot the computer from the CD drive but after is loaded a blu screen appear saying that windows cannot start/install/load because of an error. it says check for viruses or check that your newly installed hard drive has been properly configurated and terminated(???????)



3: I tryed drastinc measures with killdisk.com I burn a executale disc following all the instructions from the website and boot the computer with that disc. but that doesn't work either. the black computer stops with a starnge code and doesn't do nothing else. in the website they say that killdisc run with all the windows version including XP but they don't mention vista. maybe it is not made to overcome vista. i don't know.



ps: obviously I tryed to reboot with the windows vista cd. but that does't give me any option at all (format disc) a part from repair windows. it doesn't need repair it new untuched and it has never been connectet to internet so no viruses possible. it is just brand new from dell.



please help me



please!!
 

phuong

macrumors 6502a
Aug 16, 2006
523
0
all what you said doesn't make sense at all.
1. you dont have to use killdisk to reformat the disk. and if you do, it doesn't have anything to do with Vista, XP, or even OSX or Linux because it doesn't run under any of those environments. so don't blame Vista.
2. when booting with a XP or Vista disk, you're given a list of drives in your computer, and you can choose to delete and then recreate and then do a clean install of the OS on it. again, it doesn't have anything to do with Vista being previously installed there because the installation application weren't run under that environment.

i'm 100% sure either your disk is damaged, or you were doing something wrong during installation process. i know you were confused some where because you said "it doesn't need repair it new untuched..." while you certainly did touched it (killdisk, install xp, reformat with xp cd... remember?)

so calm down, and tell us what exactly you did during the installation, and we might help you figure out where you went wrong.
 

mojohanna

macrumors 6502a
Jul 7, 2004
868
0
Cleveland
Did someone say "vista" and "disaster"???!?!? Go figure.

(go ahead call me a fanboy, damn fine proud to be one and not have to worry about all the crap that is windows.....)
 

flyfish29

macrumors 68020
Feb 4, 2003
2,175
4
New HAMpshire
Did someone say "vista" and "disaster"???!?!? Go figure.

(go ahead call me a fanboy, damn fine proud to be one and not have to worry about all the crap that is windows.....)

Darn, you beat me to that line- I agree, I am so relieve right now that I don't have to deal with Vista type issues or any PC Windows type issues...I thought my problems tonight were bad until I read this post...good luck.

Sorry I can't help you- but I am glad I can't...cause if I could that mean I would have to be dealing with the hell otherwise known as Windows!:D
 

clevin

macrumors G3
Aug 6, 2006
9,095
1
its easy
1. put your XP cd in the driver
2. restart computer

follow the on screen instructions. do a brand new installation, remember when the copy file process finished, windows will restart, at that time, try remove the disk.

for the two friends above, u guys are not being helpful, and trolling is not welcome neither.
 

3nm

macrumors 6502a
Jul 30, 2006
991
0
killdisk...say what?? what kind of stuff you had on the Dull?? or do you work for DoD? ;)

don't panic. pop in XP CD - format drive c, and follow on screen instructions and install.

Hello, I know my problem is PC related but I use this forum for my mac And I think is great plus I am really deperate I hope someone can help me please!!

I just bought a wonderful new desktop pc from dell with the WONDERFULL windows vista. unfortunatly it may be wonderfull but it doesn't support protools. therefore i have been trying for the past 6 hours to:

1: install windows XP (I have an original windows XP which I bought with another dell PC). that doesn't work beacause a window come up saying that the version of windows that i have already in my computer in newer and it cannot let me install windows XP. it also says look for solution on line.



2: I decided to reformat my hard disc with the w XP CD. I boot the computer from the CD drive but after is loaded a blu screen appear saying that windows cannot start/install/load because of an error. it says check for viruses or check that your newly installed hard drive has been properly configurated and terminated(???????)



3: I tryed drastinc measures with killdisk.com I burn a executale disc following all the instructions from the website and boot the computer with that disc. but that doesn't work either. the black computer stops with a starnge code and doesn't do nothing else. in the website they say that killdisc run with all the windows version including XP but they don't mention vista. maybe it is not made to overcome vista. i don't know.



ps: obviously I tryed to reboot with the windows vista cd. but that does't give me any option at all (format disc) a part from repair windows. it doesn't need repair it new untuched and it has never been connectet to internet so no viruses possible. it is just brand new from dell.



please help me



please!!
 

Brandon Live

macrumors newbie
Feb 4, 2007
4
0
Kirkland, WA
What the hell are you talking about? If you bought Windows Vista, or your computer came with it, why would you possibly want to go back to XP?

Your post doesn't make any sense, and you should probably have an IT professional help you if you've screwed up things that bad.
 

crees!

macrumors 68020
Jun 14, 2003
2,018
245
MD/VA/DC
So you just bought it from Dell? Give their support line a call. Surely they would be glad to help.
 

mojohanna

macrumors 6502a
Jul 7, 2004
868
0
Cleveland
its easy
1. put your XP cd in the driver
2. restart computer

follow the on screen instructions. do a brand new installation, remember when the copy file process finished, windows will restart, at that time, try remove the disk.

for the two friends above, u guys are not being helpful, and trolling is not welcome neither.

Clevin, chill out. A little levity to the situation was all that I was adding. And no, I was not trolling, rather stating my happiness about not having to deal with MS. I have to deal with it everyday at work.
 

OllyW

Moderator
Staff member
Oct 11, 2005
17,196
6,800
The Black Country, England
Does your Dell come with Dell System Restore by Symantec?

This restores the computer to it's original factory configuration and is really easy to use. Just follow the instructions below.

Using Dell™ PC Restore by Symantec
NOTE: Dell PC Restore is not available in all countries.
Use Dell PC Restore by Symantec only as the last method to restore your operating system. PC Restore
restores your hard drive to the operating state it was in when you purchased the computer. Any programs or
files added since you received your computer—including data files—are permanently deleted from the hard
drive. Data files include documents, spreadsheets, e-mail messages, digital photos, music files, and so on. If
possible, back up all data before using PC Restore.
NOTICE: Using PC Restore permanently deletes all data on the hard drive and removes any applications or drivers
installed after you received your computer. If possible, back up the data before using PC Restore.
To use PC Restore:
1 Turn on the computer and watch the keyboard status lights.
2 Immediately upon seeing the lights flash, press <Ctrl><F11>.
If you do not press <Ctrl><F11> in time, let the computer finish restarting, and then restart the
computer again.
NOTICE: If you do not want to proceed with PC Restore, click Reboot in the following step.
3 On the next screen that appears, click Restore.
4 On the next screen, click Confirm.
The restore process takes approximately 6–10 minutes to complete.
5 When prompted, click Finish to reboot the computer.
NOTE: Do not manually shut down the computer. Click Finish and let the computer completely reboot.
6 When prompted, click Yes.
The computer restarts. Because the computer is restored to its original operating state, the screens that
appear, such as the End User License Agreement, are the same ones that appeared the first time the
computer was turned on.
7 Click Next.
The System Restore screen appears and the computer restarts.
8 After the computer restarts, click OK.
 

Sun Baked

macrumors G5
May 19, 2002
14,941
162
Clevin, chill out. A little levity to the situation was all that I was adding. And no, I was not trolling, rather stating my happiness about not having to deal with MS. I have to deal with it everyday at work.

Yep, some people completely miss the humor in Windows users coming to a Mac site for help with their PC. :D
 

stevep

macrumors 6502a
Oct 13, 2004
876
4
UK
Sounds to me as though you should restore Vista to its original state, using your Dell-supplied discs.
Then you need to partition your hard drive - I don't know whether Vista has a disc partition utility, you'll have to find out.
If you can get that far, then install XP on the new partition, along with all the xp-only software you want.
Alternatively, get on to ProTools and find out if/when they will provide a Vista patch/upgrade or whatever.
 

3nm

macrumors 6502a
Jul 30, 2006
991
0
i doubt dull would do much since the machine came w/ vista, while the OP's installing XP.

So you just bought it from Dell? Give their support line a call. Surely they would be glad to help.
 

guendalina

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Feb 9, 2007
2
0
thanks

i will try all you suggestion. when i say the computer is untached it is because none of the thongs i tryed worked, not even started to work and everything was installed already. but now i will try the dell restore system (thanks again).


ps: some of you are really offensive and i think they actually don't know about pc. but thanks anyway for trying and say " just put your xp cd and install it" ah ah very helpful ah ah
 

3nm

macrumors 6502a
Jul 30, 2006
991
0
i.) wouldn't the restore disk restore the system to vista, which you have been trying to get rid of?? :confused:

ii.) well, with XP (or even win2k or 98), popping in the CD and follow the on screen instructions will install the OS... :rolleyes:

don't know. i find it odd for a newbie to be asking windows tech questions on a mac forum. perhaps you'll find a solution at support.dell.com. :apple:

but now i will try the dell restore system (thanks again).


just put your xp cd and install it" ah ah very helpful ah ah
 

longmover

macrumors member
Apr 24, 2006
82
0
Wales, UK
i will try all you suggestion. when i say the computer is untached it is because none of the thongs i tryed worked, not even started to work and everything was installed already. but now i will try the dell restore system (thanks again).

Thongs eh? That is a novel approach I'll give you that....

:D
 

waremaster

macrumors 6502
Aug 27, 2006
406
2
What model dell do you have that came with vista? What model dell did the XP disc come from? Is the XP disc an XPSP2 disc? If not PM me.
 

bearbo

macrumors 68000
Jul 20, 2006
1,858
0
Did someone say "vista" and "disaster"???!?!? Go figure.

(go ahead call me a fanboy, damn fine proud to be one and not have to worry about all the crap that is windows.....)

desperate attempt at increase your post count, eh?

Clevin, chill out. A little levity to the situation was all that I was adding. And no, I was not trolling, rather stating my happiness about not having to deal with MS. I have to deal with it everyday at work.

trolling is defined as "post in order to anger other members or intentionally cause negative reactions."

and that's what you were doing.

btw, you are contradicting yourself, do you have to "deal" with MS or not?
 

flyfish29

macrumors 68020
Feb 4, 2003
2,175
4
New HAMpshire
desperate attempt at increase your post count, eh?



trolling is defined as "post in order to anger other members or intentionally cause negative reactions."

and that's what you were doing.

I don't imagine they intentionally did it for one.

Two, the original poster posted in a Mac forum for using Windows on a Mac...not a Windows on a Dell fourm. So if anyone wants to get technical here we are not even supposed to be having this discussion...right?!?! So if you want to get technical then I am mad cause they posted on a Mac forum about a Dell problem :confused:

Anyway, I really don't have a problem with it as the poster is a mac user apparently. I hope they can get the answers they need- by the way, did we find out why the poster bought a Dell in the first place?
 

dgdosen

macrumors 68030
Dec 13, 2003
2,817
1,463
Seattle
This whole post is a troll!

For God's sake, the person who started this thread it incompetent to run either a Windows or a Mac machine. They tried doing something, which they weren't able to coherently explain, and now their stuck. I'm sure they could pop in whatever media came with their PC and try again. That's no different to someone royally screwing up a mac.

I like both OS's - some for different things. Leave it at that. For the Windows fanboys, yes, the complexity/lack drivers for Vista is a bitch, and you need great hardware. For the mac fanboys, you'll have to accept the fact that some people like windows.

I said it before, and I'll say it again - I think Vista on my MacBook Pro is freaking awesome. This is the fastest hardware of any PC I'm using, and when you try to compare MacOS on this hardware compared to the problems with performance that someone might have upgrading their two year old desktop, that's not an apples to apples comparison.
 
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