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Dan8302

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Feb 28, 2003
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So has anyone else see this. In short it talks about a new wireless technology that has enough bandwidth to be able to stream HD quality from a computer, or other source, to a TV. Now I’m thinking this would be a great idea for a media center type application. I was thinking about setting up a media center with a Mac mini, but I kind of need a new desktop right now to, and don't have the money for two new computers right now, but if I could get a desktop and stream to a second screen in the living room, now that would be freaking cool. What do you guys think, viable technology that we might see some day soon?
 

asherman13

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Jul 31, 2005
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w_parietti22 said:
1394? Wireless iPods?

Well, not anymore, considering how iPods aren't Firewire-based anymore...

I think it could be viable technology, at least, I hope it will be. If all else fails you could just get a huuuuuuuge DVI cable and split screen the desktop to your TV. :)
 

Dan8302

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Feb 28, 2003
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asherman13 said:
If all else fails you could just get a huuuuuuuge DVI cable and split screen the desktop to your TV. :)

I think the limit on length for DVI is around 16ft before you have to start putting in repeaters and amplifiers, unless you use optical dvi, but i'm not looking to break the bank
 

MisterMe

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Jul 17, 2002
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steamboat26 said:
Why did apple stop making firewire ipods?
The majority of iPod customers are Windows users. Few of them have FireWire. Dropping FireWire saves money by simplifying the iPod product line. USB 2 is "good enough."
 

w_parietti22

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steamboat26 said:
Why did apple stop making firewire ipods?

Its also because I think if the dock connector is USB only its board is smaller and thiner. which allows for thinner iPods... but Im not positive if thats true or not.
 

Killyp

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Jun 14, 2006
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And the new iPod's hard drives aren't fast enough to make decent use of Firewire. An iPod HDD isn't that fast, and USB 2 almost maxes it's speed out...
 

ingenious

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Jan 13, 2004
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Killyp said:
And the new iPod's hard drives aren't fast enough to make decent use of Firewire. An iPod HDD isn't that fast, and USB 2 almost maxes it's speed out...


But the speeds of Firewire 400 and USB 2 aren't that different? In fact, isn't USB 2 a little bit faster (rated) than Firewire 400?

I know everyone's partial to Firewire, but I'm not getting the problem...

An iPod connected to a computer through Firewire is an iPod connected to a computer through Firewire is an iPod connected to a computer through USB 2 to me as long as I have enough ports.
 

sunfast

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w_parietti22 said:
Its also because I think if the dock connector is USB only its board is smaller and thiner. which allows for thinner iPods... but Im not positive if thats true or not.

Yeah, I heard it was something like that
 

Chundles

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ingenious said:
But the speeds of Firewire 400 and USB 2 aren't that different? In fact, isn't USB 2 a little bit faster (rated) than Firewire 400?

I know everyone's partial to Firewire, but I'm not getting the problem...

An iPod connected to a computer through Firewire is an iPod connected to a computer through Firewire is an iPod connected to a computer through USB 2 to me as long as I have enough ports.

USB 2.0 is a tiny bit faster on the burst but Firewire kills it for sustained transfer speed. Also, USB 2.0 can slow down with load on the main processor - the more stuff you are doing with your computer the slower your USB transfers will be. Firewire is independent of processor load.
 

thejadedmonkey

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May 28, 2005
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Firewire is so much faster than USB 2.0 on my G4 mini..I wish Apple would go back to making the "good" products, rather than products for the masses.
 

pianoman181

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Well part of making a 'good' product is making a sleek and attractive machine which was no longer possible considering the die size of firewire controllers. Due to the power management on the chip, firewire chip size compared to the usb die is enormous and no longer allowed for reduction in the size of ipods.
 
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