MP 7,1 With 7,1 hardware issues stacking up... Could the 7,2 be around the corner?

[handheldgames]

Considering the 7,1's high price and the length of time it took Apple to release the update. Generally speaking, it seems like there are too many issues with Apple's new logic board design. Perhaps the 7,1's lifespan may follow that of the 3,1 - introduced in 2008, replaced in 2009, or the 4,1 introduced, replaced with the 5,1 in 2010.

 

[osin]

Ain’t gonna happen. Sorry. First, there will be an update to the iMac. Then iMac Pro.
It wouldn’t make sense to release Mac Pro 7,2 before these updates. 2022 the earliest would be my guess with possibility that current pandemic will delay some of the tech progress for another 6 months or so.

What are the logic board issues you are referring to?

What we need is a replacement of Catalina to take full advantage of what 7,1 has to offer?

 

[flowrider]

I have had no issues ?

Lou

 

[Adult80HD]

Yeah, I'm baffled by this post. I'm unaware of any issues, not with the hardware. Maybe some driver issues with the graphics cards, but that's a software problem. I've had my 7,1 since late December and it's rock solid. I love it. I don't think you'll see an updated version until 2022, and that will be because of the new processors that don't have the same socket architecture.

 

[OkiRun]

My film production company's 7.1 has been running 24/7 flawlessly since day one.

 

[Krevnik]

Considering the 7,1's high price and the length of time it took Apple to release the update.

I'm not sure the fact that Apple sat on their hands, and then solved a bunch of technical hurdles to meet (maybe excessive) design goals is itself a reason to re-do it all. The end result itself is fine.

Honestly, this is the only workstation that has Thunderbolt integrated into it on any real scale. If anything, Apple's demonstrating some of the thinking that needs to be part of USB4 motherboard integration in desktop systems, even if the commodity PC industry will probably just add more cables to route signals everywhere for builders to deal with inside the case.

Generally speaking, it seems like there are too many issues with Apple's new logic board design.

Like what? You take this as an assumption and expect everyone to agree. Your poll options reflect that as well.

Yeah, I'm baffled by this post. I'm unaware of any issues, not with the hardware. Maybe some driver issues with the graphics cards, but that's a software problem.

Agree. The hardware itself is fine. The issues I've seen reported so far have all been software problems. The main change down the pipe at this point is likely to be the CPU socket and supporting hardware.

 

[ssgbryan]

He could be talking about the fact that every single subsystem in the 7,1 was obsolete on the day of release.

 

[yurc]

I was thinking 7,2 was mean for rack mount version. Are they both 7,1?

 

[MarciaFunebre]

The problems with the 7,1 are mostly Catalina related, less the hardware. This is very obvious to me. I have several machines, 7,1 and 6,1 with Catalina and Mojave respectably. Also, the differences between 10.15.4 and 10.15.3 are huge! The latest 10.15.4 including the supplement update is just one giant disaster.

Catalina is basically the Windows Vista for Apple. We should henceforth rename "MacOS Catalina" into "MacOS Vista".

 

[flowrider]

^^^^I have no issues with 10.15.4 either?

Lou

 

[tsialex]

I was thinking 7,2 was mean for rack mount version. Are they both 7,1?

Yes, just the EMC changes:

1. Tower version is 3203
2. Rack version is 3413

 

[profdraper]

I agree with some posts here: the OS is a real dog & Apple seem to be taking a longer time to have this be optimised for the MP, ie, in many or most earlier OS'es, a new release would be soon followed by tell-tale updates to pro apps support, FCPX, Logic etc. Not this time & 10.15.4 was a clear indication that Catalina is still broken.

On the hardware side, for Apple is OK enough, albeit overpriced as usual. Having said this, the Mobo & chipset will have a limited lifespan given the use of the 'Xeon light' CPU (& as it sits in other vendor's ranges below dual core Xeon bronze, platinum, gold etc). Ditto the AMD GPUs are a bit underwhelming for now but Apple's never going to do Nvidia & so we have to live with that, maybe in the hope of Big Navi a bit later.

Still, in my experience the hardware generally performs nicely on Pro Audio apps & is very quite in a studio. Just waiting for a decent OS really - my Windows 10 for Workstations is beating the crap out of this for now. Funny, is almost the direct opposite of 'mac vs windows' performance /usability a decade or so ago.

 

[deconstruct60]

... the OS is a real dog & Apple seem to be taking a longer time to have this be optimised for the MP, ie, in many or most earlier OS'es, a new release would be soon followed by tell-tale updates to pro apps support, FCPX, Logic etc. Not this time

That is in part because the Mac Pro arrived so late. Logic Pro X got updated in June 2019 ( and had the expanded capabilities to cover the Mac Pro substantive increase core count .) . The video bundle FCPX ( motion , compressor) updated in October and then in December. The FCC certificate for he Mac Pro got released in late October. Lots of signs to indicate that splitting the Mac Pro production over the USA and China ( and the trade war over most of 2019) cause a slide in the Mac Pro initial shipping date. The hardware slid out past were the software was targeting.

There was little indication that Apple was having problems getting beta systems out the users before October since they did several demos on the early beta versions for WWDC in June 2019. ( probably heavily contributed to a December release relatively shortly after an October one. )

There were March , October , December updates for the video set. That was a relatively normal pace for Apple. They aren't "behind". They could have had something queued up for Spring but I would imagine that a world wide pandemic might be a source of a software schedule slip. WWDC is sliding ( and likely many of the software projects associated with that timing. )

& 10.15.4 was a clear indication that Catalina is still broken.

The OS and the Pro apps don't have to be extremely coupled. That is one of the sources of some of the issues with 10.15 ( "too much stuff that isn't coupled all tied to a semi rigid time table. " ).