Personally, I never complained about not getting updates. You can't just assume that the people who are now complaining about the changes in iOS 7 are the same ones who were complaining about iOS 6 not being enough of an update.
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Wow. iOS 7 is a disaster.
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Personally, I never complained about not getting updates. You can't just assume that the people who are now complaining about the changes in iOS 7 are the same ones who were complaining about iOS 6 not being enough of an update.
This made me fall off my chair!!!!
Please explain how you expect to achieve this? Since it is in beta and is definitely going to be received. Are you secretly Tim Cook and have the power to stop this happening?!
Um...if I were you I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for OP to respond to your question.
OP has left the building...permanently!
Why do you constantly comment in these types of threads? I see your face, or should I say Jony's, in every thread that criticizes iOS7.
This is a forum. This is what people do in a forum. If you don't like the topic, don't join the conversation. It's quite simple.
Ah has he? I'm on tapatalk, so didn't see any ban or anything. I was curious to hear his plan for its demise. Lol
hahah spot on! exactly what i'm wondering looking at all the threads complaining about icons and gradients.
Yes 6 was getting stale, not because i wanted more complex, but because i just wanted a change. and ios 7 gives me that.
I love the iphone because the OS is transparent to me. I use the apps i want. the home screen is simple and attractive and SMOOTH and QUICK. and thats all that kind of matters wehn it comes to the core OS.
I was just thinking about this earlier, and considering how advanced ios is, really the beauty of the OS is all behind the scenes. The only part of the OS we see are the simple homepages, icons, notification centre, control centre, spotlight. so i'm not sure waht all the complaining is about. too much white space?? whatever. too "confusing"? you guys are are just making excuses to hate on something new.
I'm not talking about criticism, but the "I'm done with Apple" posts. Why should anyone else care?
I'm not talking about criticism, but the "I'm done with Apple" posts. Why should anyone else care?
True enough, but I've seen only one or maybe two "I'm done" posts. The majority of the posts seem to be pointing out problems in the hopes of effecting constructive change.
Yeah and I think one of those has been banned. Constructive criticism doesn't bother me. Knee jerk reactions and drama queens do.
I'm not talking about criticism, but the "I'm done with Apple" posts. Why should anyone else care?
Why should anyone care about icons? I have no issues with them.
Why should anyone care about battery drain? It's a beta.
Why are people posting about apps that don't work. Apps haven't been updated.
Forums are where people:
Criticize
Ask questions
Praise
Explain and show features
Create polls
This is the setup of every forum on the planet. Topics are designed to let a user know what type of discussion is involved. If you don't like the topic, don't read the thread. I'd rather this, than people trolling each thread that they don't agree with.
iOS 7 The Good, Bad, and the Ugly
iOS 7 has introduced a lot of changes. Those changes fall mostly into two categories:
1. UI changes in look and feel
2. Functional changes in how and what you can do
So far most of what I see in 2 is good. Things like Control Center, scrolling folders, multitasking extensions, AirDrop, iTunes Radio, and a lot of other mostly lower level details and additions.
The problem area is 1. So far what I see and feel includes:
1. Icons. I dont like them much. Its an opinion area and thats just mine
2. Fonts and contrast Almost unusable with anyone with less than perfect eye sight.
3. Specific displays and dialogs Many are a giant step backwards
Icons
I just dont care for the new ones. I know that some like them and others are on the fence. To me they look less professional. Thats just me, but I can learn to live with them.
Fonts and contrast
This area is just unacceptable. Many displays are almost totally unreadable for anyone with less than perfect eye sight. The font choices, font sizes, and lack of contrast of many many displays just fail the sniff test. Its a lot like eyesight, it can be measured and determined when you need glasses to get a drivers license. Much of what I see in iOS 7 just fails this test completely.
Specific displays and dialogs
Many of the new displays, dialogs are just almost impossible to read. Examples:
Phone calls Giant step backwards in readability. Many look like pastel blobs with some kind of buried text. How anyone ever let this get to Beta is beyond me.
Program Dialogs Poor, with small fonts, too little contrast due to font colors. A step backwards in readability. I had to put on glasses to even realize there was a tiny blue font dismiss button on a white background.
AirPlay Dialog For apps that have the AirPlay icon to choose audio routing, the new display is both poor in fonts and contrast as well as in style. The past display had a solid background and options. The new one is more translucent in nature, and has less readable choices. The translucent part allows bleed through from the app display and in many cases results in options being cut of obscured as a result. Completely fails the sniff test.
Folders The background and lack of border make them look less professional and mostly unreadable. Big step backwards.
Notifications The overall style is similar to before. The translucent part makes it less readable. The X and Clear buttons are completely lost due to font and contrast.
Control Center Good concept. The translucent part makes it less readable. Fonts and contrast are again lacking The icons look amateurish.
Settings - Unacceptable in that it fails the sniff test in fonts and contrast. Overall look is amateurish. Big step backwards.
There are a lot of other areas, but this is a start.
iOS 7 has introduced a lot of changes. Those changes fall mostly into two categories:
1. UI changes in look and feel
2. Functional changes in how and what you can do
So far most of what I see in 2 is good. Things like Control Center, scrolling folders, multitasking extensions, AirDrop, iTunes Radio, and a lot of other mostly lower level details and additions.
The problem area is 1. So far what I see and feel includes:
1. Icons. I dont like them much. Its an opinion area and thats just mine
2. Fonts and contrast Almost unusable with anyone with less than perfect eye sight.
3. Specific displays and dialogs Many are a giant step backwards
Icons
I just dont care for the new ones. I know that some like them and others are on the fence. To me they look less professional. Thats just me, but I can learn to live with them.
Fonts and contrast
This area is just unacceptable. Many displays are almost totally unreadable for anyone with less than perfect eye sight. The font choices, font sizes, and lack of contrast of many many displays just fail the sniff test. Its a lot like eyesight, it can be measured and determined when you need glasses to get a drivers license. Much of what I see in iOS 7 just fails this test completely.
Specific displays and dialogs
Many of the new displays, dialogs are just almost impossible to read. Examples:
Phone calls Giant step backwards in readability. Many look like pastel blobs with some kind of buried text. How anyone ever let this get to Beta is beyond me.
Program Dialogs Poor, with small fonts, too little contrast due to font colors. A step backwards in readability. I had to put on glasses to even realize there was a tiny blue font dismiss button on a white background.
AirPlay Dialog For apps that have the AirPlay icon to choose audio routing, the new display is both poor in fonts and contrast as well as in style. The past display had a solid background and options. The new one is more translucent in nature, and has less readable choices. The translucent part allows bleed through from the app display and in many cases results in options being cut of obscured as a result. Completely fails the sniff test.
Folders The background and lack of border make them look less professional and mostly unreadable. Big step backwards.
Notifications The overall style is similar to before. The translucent part makes it less readable. The X and Clear buttons are completely lost due to font and contrast.
Control Center Good concept. The translucent part makes it less readable. Fonts and contrast are again lacking The icons look amateurish.
Settings - Unacceptable in that it fails the sniff test in fonts and contrast. Overall look is amateurish. Big step backwards.
There are a lot of other areas, but this is a start.
Excellent post, nice to see some reasonable criticism and praise for once.
Of course as I am not a developer I have not had a chance to try the beta, I can wait until the fall in any case. Still I am very interested in what you said and what feedback others have.
Of course as I am not a developer I have not had a chance to try the beta, I can wait until the fall in any case. Still I am very interested in what you said and what feedback others have.
Totally agree! The functionality added by ios 7 is great, but I find the design that they chose for the OS mimicked windows phone too much (Look at the side by side comparisons) and the icons, well some of them look like they were created by someone who had just discovered photoshop. Didn't Apple say the icons were going to be fixed?
OP, there are plenty of threads you could have posted this in. No offense, but this didn't need its own thread.
One minute the head of iMore is bashing skeumorphism, and the next minute, he's talking about how "great" it is.
For the past 5 generations, OSX and iOS have been merged. And now when iOS7 comes out, everyone is saying, well, "Oh, no these two products shouldn't be merged together. For notification center on your mac. Forget notes, forget reminders."
And it baffles my mind that these weren't taken out of OSX Mavericks.
That's about as skeumorphic as skeumorphic can get.
So why is it that iOS 6 still exists on the Mac? And everyone that said that they wouldn't want iOS7 to leak onto the Mac, oh, no, it's coming.
For the past 5 generations, OSX and iOS have been merged. And now when iOS7 comes out, everyone is saying, well, "Oh, no these two products shouldn't be merged together. For notification center on your mac. Forget notes, forget reminders."
And it baffles my mind that these weren't taken out of OSX Mavericks.
That's about as skeumorphic as skeumorphic can get.
So why is it that iOS 6 still exists on the Mac? And everyone that said that they wouldn't want iOS7 to leak onto the Mac, oh, no, it's coming.
iOS 7 has copied Android and Windows phone
The new ios, has proven Apple to be no better than Samsung, clearly copying Android as well as windows phone in both apparence and functionality. Look here if you don't believe me. ioS 7 is no doubt a step backwards for Apple. I really hope they change it soon or at least alter the icons so they don't hurt their image.
The new ios, has proven Apple to be no better than Samsung, clearly copying Android as well as windows phone in both apparence and functionality. Look here if you don't believe me. ioS 7 is no doubt a step backwards for Apple. I really hope they change it soon or at least alter the icons so they don't hurt their image.
If you say "by functionality" and mean that it's a touch screen phone, then how can that be avoided? Remember, iOS was around before Windows phone AND Android. Have you actually held a device running iOS 7 in your hands, and used it for an extensive period of time? I'm almost certain you're another one of the moaning masses, complaining about mere screenshots...
When taking your "evidence" into account, you should consider this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZmIiIXuZ0
Next, please.
I've read many of the replies on this thread and I see the word or sentiment "professional" pop up a lot.
I think we've come to see "complex" (as exemplified by the use of lots of "chrome" and skeuomorphic elements, faux reflections, gradients, and so forth) as a sign of "finished" or "professional" design. Many of us have become so accustomed to it, that when we don't see it, we assume something's missing. And that WAS the "old school" of design pre-2012.
I think what Ive and Co. are saying (as WP8 and to a certain extent, Android, are as well) is that a minimalist UI that simply presents the user options in a less-adorned way is what the consumer wants. From a design standpoint, I think he's right, and it has nothing to being professional. It's been part of Apple's overall product industrial design for over a decade now. Finally the UI is catching up.
When the design ceases to be the focal point, you can be more productive with the device or interface. I think that's what we have here: a stripping down of the UI to base elements and simplification of what the user can expect to see with the hope that less focus on the "look" will enhance the "feel."
I think we've come to see "complex" (as exemplified by the use of lots of "chrome" and skeuomorphic elements, faux reflections, gradients, and so forth) as a sign of "finished" or "professional" design. Many of us have become so accustomed to it, that when we don't see it, we assume something's missing. And that WAS the "old school" of design pre-2012.
I think what Ive and Co. are saying (as WP8 and to a certain extent, Android, are as well) is that a minimalist UI that simply presents the user options in a less-adorned way is what the consumer wants. From a design standpoint, I think he's right, and it has nothing to being professional. It's been part of Apple's overall product industrial design for over a decade now. Finally the UI is catching up.
When the design ceases to be the focal point, you can be more productive with the device or interface. I think that's what we have here: a stripping down of the UI to base elements and simplification of what the user can expect to see with the hope that less focus on the "look" will enhance the "feel."
I've read many of the replies on this thread and I see the word or sentiment "professional" pop up a lot.
I think we've come to see "complex" (as exemplified by the use of lots of "chrome" and skeuomorphic elements, faux reflections, gradients, and so forth) as a sign of "finished" or "professional" design. Many of us have become so accustomed to it, that when we don't see it, we assume something's missing. And that WAS the "old school" of design pre-2012.
I think what Ive and Co. are saying (as WP8 and to a certain extent, Android, are as well) is that a minimalist UI that simply presents the user options in a less-adorned way is what the consumer wants. From a design standpoint, I think he's right, and it has nothing to being professional. It's been part of Apple's overall product industrial design for over a decade now. Finally the UI is catching up.
When the design ceases to be the focal point, you can be more productive with the device or interface. I think that's what we have here: a stripping down of the UI to base elements and simplification of what the user can expect to see with the hope that less focus on the "look" will enhance the "feel."
From Apple:
"... where content is king"
"The interface receeds, to elevate your content..."
Obviously lots of people weren't paying attention to the Keynote.
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