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I never got a chance to watch the unveiling of iOS 7, because I turned it off after I saw the home screen.

But did you hear how awkward and quiet it was when they showed the home screen?

YouTube: video

Not a sound in the room. They were just. stunned. :eek:
That's because the home screen was first unveiled, to applause from the audience, four minutes and fifty seconds earlier than the segment you posted, during the video narrated by Jony (at about the 78:05 mark of the full keynote, in case you'd like to revisit it: http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2013/).
 
Funny how before iOS 7 came out all we heard was how stale iOS was and it needed to change. Now its In beta and we hear eww Apple why did you copy Google and Microsoft. Had Apple just tweaked iOS 6 to remove gloss or faux leather and felt people would have complained about that too and wondered what the heck Apple has been doing the past 7 months. There's nothing that Apple could do that people wouldn't complain about.

I agree 
 
Well, android allows way more customization than iOS does.
iOS gives you the very basic. Wallpaper, icons placement.
WP8 is in the middle. You can change tile sizes, placement, wallpapers, themes of the phone to specified shades.

With iPhone they are all pretty much identical. There isn't much individualization of the phone.

And yes, Jailbreaking it does give one many of those customization options, but not everyone jailbreaks.

I'm not saying it's a must have on the iOS, all I'm saying is that Apple could've avoided this whole redesign of the visuals if they simply let developers create "Themes" for the phone. People would get "fresh" looking OS at there own will. And i'm sure there will be TONS more money made on it on the AppStore. It would free up Apple's Engineer's time to do more value added upgrades to the OS.

Just food for though.

Who knows, Apple may one day allow themes. But right now, they are just trying to introduce an evolutionary OS.

I guess I'm saying, let's all wait to see what the final release of the OS looks like. And let's let iOS7 'mature' a little before we pan it.
 
So what's going to happen now? Since Apple is taking the detail out of their apps and operating system, does that mean that developers have to follow suit?

I mean there's stark contrast and division now.

On one hand you have these flats simplistic icons...

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and then amongst them you'll have these high resolution, detailed icons.

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So, what's going to happen? :confused:
 
I think that many people, like me, are disappointed in iOS7 because it visually goes against everything that attracted them to Apple in the first place.

Sure, Apple has many times made bold moves in their designs, but they have always kept it at a highly professional level. This time I feel is different.
To go out and show something like this to the public. I don't know what they were thinking. It looks like an early sketch at best.

There will always be people who likes it. And I can't say that they are wrong. Everyone has their own taste. But this is a device that is aimed to appeal to the masses and there's what I think it went horribly wrong.
Not one person that i've showed it to has liked it. In fact most of them could not believe that it was a product of Apple which they have always regarded highly when it comes to design.

It is an embarrassment to say the least.


Couldn't agree more. I feel as though Apple is going against some of the things Apple has represented to so many of us for so long now. Apple has always been about providing context and familiarity with its products. When I use an Apple product, I know what to do. With iOS7 it feels as if they deliberately removed context...and I don't know why. The slide to unlock thing is a great example, as is the swipe to turn off, swipe to answer phone calls, some of the buttons, etc. When I first installed iOS7 on my iPhone 5, I swiped up on the lock screen. Why? Because theres an arrow pointing up right below the slide to unlock text. The context was completely altered and that changes the way you use a device.

These are things that Apple was known to excel at. "It just works"

The iPhone was designed to be able to be picked up by anyone of any age and instantly give them context and familiarity. I saw elderly women sharing photos on an iPad, and I was amazed that this technology was so friendly that it had transcended generational borders that were once impossible to crack.

And then I installed iOS7 and instantly felt as if Apple made a huge mistake. They removed so much of the OS that it no longer felt familiar and it certainly did not feel like an Apple product.

Don't get me wrong, the feature enhancements in iOS7 are superb and I really like where its heading in that regard...but the UI was taken too far.

I shuddered at the thought of my dad updating his iPhone to 7. I'll be receiving a lot of phone calls from him, but at least now I know how to answer the call.

Things used to be obvious on iOS. iOS7 requires a higher level of expertise than any previous version, and I think that was a very, very bad move on Apple's part. There's absolutely no reason that they couldn't have just iterated the UI, changed things up enough to make it look fresh but still familiar. It's almost like this vendetta against Forstall is blinding Apple. They went too far and its obvious.

As my girlfriend put it when she first played with my iOS7 iPhone: "It looks juvenile"

Sincerely,
Concerned Apple lover
 
The only way I refer to it is "stripped down". It's not new or cool, it's bare. For everything else I have no words.
 
Not one person that i've showed it to has liked it. In fact most of them could not believe that it was a product of Apple which they have always regarded highly when it comes to design.

"This thing is hideous."
"The design is VERY un apple like, down to the seams and the buttons."
"This looks horrendous."

Those are comments about the iPhone 4. I guess we know how that turned out. By Christmas, people will be singing praises to iOS 7.
 
Things used to be obvious on iOS. iOS7 requires a higher level of expertise than any previous version, and I think that was a very, very bad move on Apple's part. There's absolutely no reason that they couldn't have just iterated the UI, changed things up enough to make it look fresh but still familiar. It's almost like this vendetta against Forstall is blinding Apple. They went too far and its obvious.

I just posted a similar thought in another thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/17445777/

I think assuming familiarity with the system and making things less obvious based on this assumed familiarity is just a bad idea. And you may be right that this is an over reaction against Forestall. I just hope someone at Apple realizes this and can correct the direction.
 
"This thing is hideous."
"The design is VERY un apple like, down to the seams and the buttons."
"This looks horrendous."

Those are comments about the iPhone 4. I guess we know how that turned out. By Christmas, people will be singing praises to iOS 7.
Time will tell. This majority of iPhone users bought the iPhone because the hardware and software fit their style and/or because it provides an intuitive, easy-to-use interface. They have no emotional investment in Apple and will go elsewhere if the platform ceases to meet their needs (simplicity) and/or stylistic preferences. I like the new functionality and really like some of the enhancements for developers, but I also think Apple is literally risking the company with some of these UI changes. In this beta, IOS has lost some of the stylistic elements that brought users to the platform and has made the platform more difficult to use.
 
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What were Apple thinking??? Granted a minimalistic design can be nice, but it needs to be consistent. And considering its not consistent in the stock icons how can it be consistent with app store applications. They shouldn't of tried to make a windows phone or web OS clone and just given ios 7 a small, simple (irony) refresh.
 
people here don't like me because I openly state my views of iOS 7 that's different from yours.

Your previous 2 posts in this thread alone are lame troll-like jokes, that's why people here don't like you. As soon as you did that, any credibility you had went out the window. Most people here don't hate anti iOS comments, just the ones that are pointless and offer no constructive points or substance, but again, you're twisting things to troll. I'm ignoring any of your posts from here on.

More proof of your trolling is taking the reaction to the home screen at the keynote out of context, just so it fits your argument, major flaw. The 2 posters above proved you wrong and anyone can see it.
 
I don't understand the hate. I was a bit apprehensive at first. But after a week of use, I have grown to like the os. Including the ui and icon set. If you don't like it, there are alternatives. No one is forcing you to keep your iPhone.

It's like those ppl who hate what changes they do to Facebook, yet refuses to switch to another social network. I just don't get it.
 
It's like those ppl who hate what changes they do to Facebook, yet refuses to switch to another social network. I just don't get it.

Just because you don't like a certain change, doesn't mean that the entire system has become useless. Or perhaps you can't find a better alternative. Or in the case of Facebook, maybe all your friends are on it, so you can't switch.

So for whatever reason, you stick with it, but you complain about the changes. Happens all the time in life.
 
I don't understand the hate. I was a bit apprehensive at first. But after a week of use, I have grown to like the os. Including the ui and icon set. If you don't like it, there are alternatives. No one is forcing you to keep your iPhone.

It's like those ppl who hate what changes they do to Facebook, yet refuses to switch to another social network. I just don't get it.
Many, like myself, have already switched back to IOS6. I have had an iPhone since day 1 and I am not going to abandon the Apple platform just because I don't like some of the UI changes in a beta.
 
The majority of iPhone users bought the iPhone because the hardware and software fit their style and/or because it provides an intuitive, easy-to-use interface. They have no emotional investment in Apple and will go elsewhere if the platform ceases to meet their needs (simplicity) and/or stylistic preferences.

My iPhone is the only Apple device I own. For every app I have, I have it on both iOS and Android. I have an iPhone because that is what I prefer. (I recently bought and returned a Galaxy S4 because I hated the UI.) There are many things I like better about Android, but the UI isn't one of them. For me, iOS 7 felt like a reward. Without buying a new phone I get a new beautiful UI that absolutely blows away everything else.

I suspect that once it's released, the new UI will be a huge win for Apple. But like you said, time will tell.
 
Setting aside the appearance aspect, Apple had two choices: leave out the functionality and continue to be harshly criticized for not offering it, or implement it and be accused of copying. The latter is far better than the former.

To be honest, what it really comes down to is how the average person reacts to the OS... At the core of it iOS 7 is still iOS, imo, and lots of people choose it because it's easy and comfortable to use. If people still feel that iOS 7 provides that then it will do well and so will the next phone.

I am well aware that some things in mobile UI you can't redesign or rework, but in Apple's case they made no effort to differentiate themselves from their competitors like they normally do. I'm not one of those people who are desperate for change then are angry when it happens, I was looking for things that no competition has done, so its worth spending so much money on an iphone when I could spend less on an android powered one.
 
I don't understand the hate. I was a bit apprehensive at first. But after a week of use, I have grown to like the os. Including the ui and icon set. If you don't like it, there are alternatives. No one is forcing you to keep your iPhone.

It's like those ppl who hate what changes they do to Facebook, yet refuses to switch to another social network. I just don't get it.

Thats it right there. People need to use it and give it a chance.

If people don't like the "Candy" feel about it. Use a wallpaper that will tone it down. Its not hard.

I have the "galaxy" wallpaper featured on Ive's video. It works really well.
 
So what's going to happen now? Since Apple is taking the detail out of their apps and operating system, does that mean that developers have to follow suit?

I mean there's stark contrast and division now.

On one hand you have these flats simplistic icons...

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and then amongst them you'll have these high resolution, detailed icons.

Image

So, what's going to happen? :confused:

that the home screen will look even more weird...
 
I still think iOS 7 can be salvaged. I mean it's not completely useless.

I'll have to see. Although I'm not waiting on it because I can't handle any more disappointment.

But this gives me just a little bit of an excuse to go into their stores. I'd have to demo it there first before I'd think to install it on my phone.
 
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I would like the ios6 icons and colors, but with the new ios7 functions personally. Dont matter what I think though lol
 
The dock is beautiful if your wallpaper is beautiful.

Unfortunately, that's not necessarily true. I have a lovely, warm wood panel wallpaper I've used as my background ever since I got my first iPhone. I had to quit using it with iOS 7 because it made the dock a sickening, salmon-colored shade of orange:

 
I think Forstall's redesign of iOS would've been phenomenal, you know. He left because he didnt sign Apple's apology for Maps. But the things he was giving us at least tried to be on the cutting edge.

It was nothing like the doom we're seeing now. I think the whole idea of putting Jong Ive in charge of software design was just, (sigh) stupid.
 
Unfortunately, that's not necessarily true. I have a lovely, warm wood panel wallpaper I've used as my background ever since I got my first iPhone. I had to quit using it with iOS 7 because it made the dock a sickening, salmon-colored shade of orange:

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Hmm. You're right. I think they should make the dock at least completely/near complete transparent. I think they're focusing too much on 'fitting the colour scheme based on the background' thingy. This should only be applied to texts on the screen.
 
Couldn't agree more. I feel as though Apple is going against some of the things Apple has represented to so many of us for so long now. Apple has always been about providing context and familiarity with its products. When I use an Apple product, I know what to do. With iOS7 it feels as if they deliberately removed context...and I don't know why. The slide to unlock thing is a great example, as is the swipe to turn off, swipe to answer phone calls, some of the buttons, etc. When I first installed iOS7 on my iPhone 5, I swiped up on the lock screen. Why? Because theres an arrow pointing up right below the slide to unlock text. The context was completely altered and that changes the way you use a device.

These are things that Apple was known to excel at. "It just works"

The iPhone was designed to be able to be picked up by anyone of any age and instantly give them context and familiarity. I saw elderly women sharing photos on an iPad, and I was amazed that this technology was so friendly that it had transcended generational borders that were once impossible to crack.

And then I installed iOS7 and instantly felt as if Apple made a huge mistake. They removed so much of the OS that it no longer felt familiar and it certainly did not feel like an Apple product.

Don't get me wrong, the feature enhancements in iOS7 are superb and I really like where its heading in that regard...but the UI was taken too far.

I shuddered at the thought of my dad updating his iPhone to 7. I'll be receiving a lot of phone calls from him, but at least now I know how to answer the call.

Things used to be obvious on iOS. iOS7 requires a higher level of expertise than any previous version, and I think that was a very, very bad move on Apple's part. There's absolutely no reason that they couldn't have just iterated the UI, changed things up enough to make it look fresh but still familiar. It's almost like this vendetta against Forstall is blinding Apple. They went too far and its obvious.

As my girlfriend put it when she first played with my iOS7 iPhone: "It looks juvenile"

Sincerely,
Concerned Apple lover

If you're adept enough to download the Beta AND install it to your iPhone, which I am going to safely assume you're not a dev. I do wonder how you cocked up something such a slide to unlock.

The fundamentals of iOS have not changed, slide to unlock, is oddly still sliding to the right to unlock.. Slide to power off, is still slide to power off AND it has a red strip where you slide! The shimmer in the text is still there.
 
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