Wow macOS 14.2 is buggy

[SW3029]

Half the time when I click the Launchpad icon in the dock, Launchpad doesn't launch.

Also, the menu bar digital clock randomly freezes at select times and the only thing that fixes it is a reboot.

 

[fisherking]

not bugs, just issues you're experiencing. and what do you mean by 'select' times? is the clock freezing at the same time(s) daily?

this sort-of thing completely resets launchpad, but that means... you lose how you laid it out. but if need be: reset launchpad

 

[SW3029]

And now Photos won't sync iCloud Photo Library. The last time iCloud Photo Library synced to my Mac was Tuesday...right before I installed 14.2.

 

[SW3029]

Jesus...Photos can't even duplicate a photo anymore....

 

[3Rock]

Installed Sonoma fresh and I have none of the issues that you’re having. Must be at your end for some reason or another. Very very happy thus far.

 

[fisherking]

perhaps the OS needs a re-install? my sync works, and i just dupicated a photo...

 

[FreakinEurekan]

Photos is working fine for me. Wouldn't know about Launchpad because I have no use for it.

 

[Shivetya]

and at 14.2 I lost time machine.

 

[fisherking]

and at 14.2 I lost time machine.

lost it where, how?...

 

[agregson]

Network and specifically SMB problems for me. Server and share browsing stops. Sign that something is wrong is server names all in caps (should be mixed case). Any mounted shares are perfectly accessible. Cannot browse or mount new ones. Also cannot then mount by server name. Also start to see unusual names in network such as same server with -4, -6 or similar following it. Seems to be each server in mixed case with a -4 or similar and server in CAPS without the suffix. I cannot mount new shares with server name or IP address but can continue to access currently mounted.

Time Machine on each server also stopped working. The next backup after update to 14.2 has failed on each server.

The servers are Linux - one is DietPI and one is Debian. Samba is built by hand. Worked fine for over 18 months. Fully accessible from Windows desktop and Raspberry PI where browsing and mounting each work flawlessly. No changes or updates on either server. The only change has been update to 14.2 on MacBook Air.

I run my own servers in addition to iCloud. Also have Google and DropBox thought don't like Google, DropBox and OneDrive clients as they consume too much memory. I access all services via Transmit. It seems I will now be accessing my own file servers via SFTP and Transmit for now (which continues to work).

Anyone else have any issues with SMB?

 

[Apple_Robert]

and at 14.2 I lost time machine.

Things like that happen when using beta software.

 

[flowrider]

^^^^14.2 is not Beta it was released on 12/11/23. However, 14.3 is in beta.

Lou

 

[Shivetya]

lost it where, how?...

My SSD attached time machine no longer works as it throws the error below. There is just something wrong in 14.2, it turned everything on in regards to iCloud backups and still backed up my photos even when I have that explicitly turned off. Even with iCloud storage off it still blocks time machine.

I have even signed out of my apple id and yet I keep getting the same error. There is zero network traffic now to iCloud, at times it was all my network traffic even though I did have it all turned off.

Time Machine cannot back up because some iCloud Drive files have not finished syncing.

Syncing happens when your Mac is turned on and connected to the Internet. Syncing may take a few days. Syncing will happen more quickly while your Mac is connected to a power sourc

 

[bousozoku]

Things like that happen when using beta software.

Did they start with beta test releases first?

 

[Sully]

^^^^14.2 is not Beta it was released on 12/11/23. However, 14.3 is in beta.

Lou

I feel like every Apple customer is Beta tester these days because Apple is rushing products and software to the market before these products are fully tested.

With software, I’m beginning to think that I should never update beyond the iteration that came with the product that I purchased.

 

[fisherking]

I feel like every Apple customer is Beta tester these days because Apple is rushing products and software to the market before these products are fully tested.

With software, I’m beginning to think that I should never update beyond the iteration that came with the product that I purchased.

or... there are so many variables (the hardware we use, the apps we run, the way our setups are configured), that apple, as it endeavors to move things forward, discovers bugs and challenges along the way.

all of this is being made up as we go along, there's no roadmap. and there's no way to know how everything works for eveyone until the OS is out in the wild. but update or don't, you have choice

 

[M2MaxMan]

MacOS 14.2.1 working quite fine on my M2 Max Mac Studio.

M2 Max Mac Studio 32GB 1TB

 

[Sully]

or... there are so many variables (the hardware we use, the apps we run, the way our setups are configured), that apple, as it endeavors to move things forward, discovers bugs and challenges along the way.

all of this is being made up as we go along, there's no roadmap. and there's no way to know how everything works for eveyone until the OS is out in the wild. but update or don't, you have choice

Well stated.

 

[topmounter]

I updated to 14.2.1 on my M1 Mac Mini and I'm seeing the two issues listed below. I've tried closing all apps and restarting as well as cold-booting.

1. I'm not able to click on menu items. For example, if I click on the 'Apple' in the Menu Bar then the menu bar closes instead of opening the selected item. Same for all items under File, Edit, View, etc. I have to use the keyboard to highlight and select. This is happening with both my Magic Trackpad and third-party mouse.
2. I'm no longer able to move apps between Desktops in Mission Control.

I'm not able to repro either issue on my 14" Macbook Pro M3 Pro which is still running 14.1.1

 

[Shivetya]

So today, the 29th, for the first day since I installed 14.2 (and then 14.3 last week in hopes) I woke up to find my time machine backups are running again. They had been blocked by iCloud backups not being complete, which provides no information as to what and let alone why it would matter anyway.

So I checked my iCloud and I am using 23.7 MB in total right now. I really have no idea what changed overnight but over two weeks of failing time machine was ridiculous.

 

[profdraper]

Yep, its a pig. I still get consistenly good results with Monterey.

 

[Chuckeee]

Yep, its a pig

But does it fly? 😋

 

[gilby101]

So today, the 29th, for the first day since I installed 14.2 (and then 14.3 last week in hopes) I woke up to find my time machine backups are running again. They had been blocked by iCloud backups not being complete, which provides no information as to what and let alone why it would matter anyway.

Possible explanation: Do you have "Optimise Mac storage" enabled in Settings > iCloud? If not, TM will not be able to run until all iCloud Drive is downloaded - this is to make sure that your backup is a complete backup. With the (undocumented) iCloud Drive changes in Sonoma, it is best to enable "Optimise Mac Storage". Then a) you can control what is always stored locally and what is only in the cloud with Finder's context menu, and b) TM will backup what is stored locally and stub files for content currently only in the cloud.

 

[Shivetya]

Possible explanation: Do you have "Optimise Mac storage" enabled in Settings > iCloud? If not, TM will not be able to run until all iCloud Drive is downloaded - this is to make sure that your backup is a complete backup. With the (undocumented) iCloud Drive changes in Sonoma, it is best to enable "Optimise Mac Storage". Then a) you can control what is always stored locally and what is only in the cloud with Finder's context menu, and b) TM will backup what is stored locally and stub files for content currently only in the cloud.

I tried both ways, I even allowed it to fully back up my photos library as well. My documents folder cannot be backed up - typical uninformative reasons why of course but I suspect nested directories caused by paradox games using that folder.

I even tried being signed into icloud or not. I did toggle between optimize mac storage but never saw any network activity for that. the only time I saw cloud activity was when I allowed it to sync 45g-50g of photos which I later removed.

this is why it was so frustrating, it never told me what it was doing only that something was not complete and there is zero logical reason for an icloud issue to prevent my local time machine from working. It was still creating time machine images on my mac so part of the process was working

 

[kagharaht]

Aside from the random stutter on the Magic Trackpad, everything else is running smooth and fast. I just got the M3 iMac and did not migrate anything from Time Machine. I moved the stuff manually.