Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

srobert

macrumors 68020
Original poster
Jan 7, 2002
2,062
0
He somehow hates Phill too it seams.

—> Link to complete article <—

Some of his comments:

New computer betrays aging vision...

Schiller, wearing an ill-fitting 1950s-style blue shirt buttoned high, began by raving about how great Paris was...

OK, Phil, now the girls know never to go dancing with you...

This iPod lovefest went on and on. What's more, Schiller added, the iPod is an "ecosystem!" It's hard to stomach all this nonsense...

Well, I'll stop quoting since every sentense of his article would make the list ^_^

The "More JOHN DVORAK'S SECOND OPINION" links at the bottom of the page are worth reading too. Everybit as venomous and full of nonseense, some more directed at Apple.
This guy should be a flim critic, not a serious journalist.

This guy must be a really unhappy, angry, sad little man. LOL, now I sound just like him.
 
As Col. Henry Potter from the good ol' 4077th would say to this article: "BULL COOKIES!!"

This goon should be sent to CNN where his reporting talent would be best suited.

Bonus: look at his picture- what a bean dip!!
 
Don't kill the messenger :rolleyes:

Apple's senior vice president for worldwide product marketing was replacing the recuperating Steve Jobs. He mentioned that the founder and chief executive would be back in September, and that "September cannot come soon enough." If he checked a calendar he'd find that, in fact, September came the next day. The company seems to have lost track of time, and it showed with the G5 iMac.


Schiller, wearing an ill-fitting 1950s-style blue shirt buttoned high, began by raving about how great Paris was and then how "amazing" the iPod (a digital music player) was and also how great was the iPod mini.


It went from there to showing iPod ads. Ugh. These are the ads with black silhouettes spastically gyrating against colored backgrounds. "I don't know about you, but I wish I could dance like that," Schiller said. (OK, Phil, now the girls know never to go dancing with you.)


This iPod lovefest went on and on. What's more, Schiller added, the iPod is an "ecosystem!" It's hard to stomach all this nonsense.


Finally, after some other things are rolled out, including a search feature for the Mac, some graphics initiatives and other trivia, we find the new G5 iMac. Following the thread that Apple seems to have lost track of time, the machine comes in one old-fashioned color: 1988 platinum white. The design is hardly inspirational. In fact, if you put two headlamps on it and a metal sun visor over its "windshield," it would be reminiscent of a 1954 DeSoto.


The architecture is risky. First of all, they jammed the entire computer into the screen, making the idea of changing "monitors" or screens impractical.


Observers on the Net are seeing this design as a precursor to an Apple (AAPL: news, chart, profile) notepad computer. To date, the notepad revolution, as predicted by Bill Gates, has been as successful as Blue Pepsi.


The Apple design team was obviously held to this design by edict, since the result is hardly jazzy or interesting. What's worse, the engineering required that all of the USB, audio, Ethernet and modem connectors (10 of them, not including the power line) are awkwardly and inconveniently placed on the back of the bulky monitor-computer. With all these wires running off the back of this top-heavy machine, there's a good possibility that one will get tripped over. I suspect the iMac will go flying. This lash-up just does not look stable.


Even if I'm wrong, I'd still like to know what happened to all those fancy colors Apple was promoting. This unit is so white that when you visit the Apple Web site, you can barely see the computer as it disappears into the background of the site itself.


The fancy colors are now relegated to the iPod, which now seems to be Apple's primary focus. Schiller spent a lot of time bragging about Apple's 59 percent market share in the MP3 player market. Is this something to be proud of? Where does this market head? Almost anything with a small amount of memory can be turned into an MP3 player nowadays; you just need a headphone jack.


Of course, the iPod is more than any old MP3 player. It's quite expensive, costing as much as $400. But as Schiller mentioned, it can hold 10,000 songs that "you can have with you all the time." What maniac needs to have 10,000 songs with them all the time?


The fact is that Apple is starting to believe its own publicity and has gone iPod jack-wacky. Moving from computers to consumer electronics is dangerous for Apple. It's especially dangerous if the company thinks that MP3 players and its variants are the future.


Perhaps if the company took the plunge and followed the path of Sony with branded cameras, headphones, amplifiers and home theaters in a box it would be more interesting. But milking this one pricey and faddish device is going to ruin the company if it is going to be the center of attention, which it now seems to be.
 
This would have been a poor article if it got published under a "Technology header". But it is terrible that it made it's way under a "Market Watch" header. Shame on you CBS.
 
I guess not enough of you read PC Magazine... Oh, wait :D
John C. Dvorak is always like that, it's why people like him. His "Inside Track" column in PC Magazine is always the most interesting in the whole magazine; he basically just spews out a bunch of garbage, adds some low blows to products he dosen't like, and basically loves himself! It's just his way.
 
Hands off of Dvorak

Hey, the guy is pure genius, so stop with the degrading remarks about Dvorak. Afterall, aren't we all just typing away on our Dvorak keyboards at the moment? Oh wait!

</sarcasm> :)
 
i kinda agree

i kinda agree with this guy......towards the end though........ if apple puts too much effort into one product....... it can be a bad thing, and not a good thing for apple.....
 
I usually play devils advocate of some Mac junkies bash an article that contains valid points that point out Apple's flaws. But in this case, the writer is flat out wrong, he makes no good points about why the new iMac is bad, and he enjoys sleeping with sheep. That was added just for good measure.
 
Abstract said:
I usually play devils advocate of some Mac junkies bash an article that contains valid points that point out Apple's flaws. But in this case, the writer is flat out wrong, he makes no good points about why the new iMac is bad, and he enjoys sleeping with sheep. That was added just for good measure.

That's his style. He doesn't have to make good points. That's why others his age are enjoying their retirement and he's still working for pennies on the dollar. Besides, PC Magazine has never been about reality, it's been about who pays the most to get a good review. Ziff-Davis left morals to their weekly magazines. Even MacUser had a really useless opinion column, but you can always ignore opinions, right?
 
ooooh. That piece of "opinion" P-O'ed me so greatly that I wanted to fire off a point-by-point rebuttal! but there was no comments section. :mad:

"Schiller, wearing an ill-fitting 1950s-style blue shirt buttoned high..." What's with the personal slam, here? It's just a standard business shirt, dickweed!

"OK, Phil, now the girls know never to go dancing with you." I guess he prefers Ballmer's "Developers" dance?

"...the iPod is an 'ecosystem!' It's hard to stomach all this nonsense." I think that anytime a product spawns 250 accessories, it can justly have its own ecosystem. It's Dvorak's nonsense that's hard to stomach.

"...the machine comes in one old-fashioned color: 1988 platinum white." Earth to Dvorak: Who was putting out white computers in 1988? The iMac has only been white since the release of the G4 iMac in what, 2000?

"In fact, if you put two headlamps on it and a metal sun visor over its 'windshield,' it would be reminiscent of a 1954 DeSoto." More pointless low-brow, low-blow insults. And he gets paid to write this crap?

"First of all, they jammed the entire computer into the screen, making the idea of changing "monitors" or screens impractical." Because, dontcha know, everyone rushes out to buy at least three new monitors within the standard 2-3 year upgrade cycle. And a new monitor won't improve a crap graphics card (which is a far more legitimate beef with the iMac in general).

"To date, the notepad revolution, as predicted by Bill Gates, has been as successful as Blue Pepsi." Didn't keep Dvorak's good buddy Enderle from scoring another Apple Death Knell entry for predicting that Apple would go belly-up because it wasn't going to do tablets.

"Even if I'm wrong, I'd still like to know what happened to all those fancy colors Apple was promoting." Obviously Mr. Dvorak has not had access to Apple marketing materials since the last millenium, because iMacs and iBooks haven't come in fruity colors since then. The fact that the colors were a rumor must have somehow escaped his journalistic eagle eye.

"Schiller spent a lot of time bragging about Apple's 59 percent market share in the MP3 player market. Is this something to be proud of?.....Almost anything with a small amount of memory can be turned into an MP3 player nowadays; you just need a headphone jack." Which is why all those anything-with-a-headphone-jack knock-offs are selling so much better than the iPod, right?

"What maniac needs to have 10,000 songs with them all the time?" I don't know, but Sony thinks you need 13,000 (and low-bitrate songs at that).

"The fact is that Apple....has gone iPod jack-wacky." Invent your own words....become a tech pundit today! Did the jack-wacky gyre and gimble in the wabe?

"Perhaps if the company took the plunge and followed the path of Sony....But milking this one pricey and faddish device is going to ruin the company." Oooh, you mean like milking the Walkman ruined Sony? Apple must surely take care and tread no farther!

Sorry, I know point-by-point is overkill....but if any piece of writing ever begged to be flamed into pieces, this is it. :mad:
 
FriarCrazy said:
I guess not enough of you read PC Magazine... Oh, wait :D
John C. Dvorak is always like that, it's why people like him. His "Inside Track" column in PC Magazine is always the most interesting in the whole magazine; he basically just spews out a bunch of garbage, adds some low blows to products he dosen't like, and basically loves himself! It's just his way.

Sounds Like Howard Stern
 
Hes always hated apple, Even when apple post good profits and increase numbers, he will find something to bitch about... I just ignore it, Sometime i laugh at it cause he comes up with some of the worst things to complain about. but thats life...
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.