Xiaomi 14 Pro looks incredible

[h.gilbert]

Looks great, can't wait for it to come to European shores. I know this site is predominantly US users so perhaps not of much interest here.

On sale for $684 equivalent in China right now. European prices shouldn't be too far off. Incredible specs: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_14_pro-12643.php

Notably: SD 8 Gen 3, 3000 nit screen, variable aperture camera.

Xiaomi is also getting better with software support length and should be getting at least 5 years of security updates. IMO this blows the Pixel 8 Pro out of the water.

 

[ramram55]

It is advanced tech in that part of the world, that made it far ahead of others. Made others blood boiled and teeth crunched. Sanctions and more sanctions. Only shot themselve in the foot. Period.

 

[Harthag]

Looks great, can't wait for it to come to European shores. I know this site is predominantly US users so perhaps not of much interest here.

On sale for $684 equivalent in China right now. European prices shouldn't be too far off. Incredible specs: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_14_pro-12643.php

Notably: SD 8 Gen 3, 3000 nit screen, variable aperture camera.

Xiaomi is also getting better with software support length and should be getting at least 5 years of security updates. IMO this blows the Pixel 8 Pro out of the water.

Don't think I've ever seen someone put the Apple Polishing Cloth in their sig 🤣🤣🤣.

Too bad these phones won't fully work with US carriers. I for one would buy this phone (or the regular 14) in a heartbeat.

 

[dumastudetto]

Don't think I've ever seen someone put the Apple Polishing Cloth in their sig 🤣🤣🤣.

Great spot. I think more people should because it's an incredible device. I'm waiting for a Gen 2 refresh because mine is showing its age now and doesn't perform so well.

 

[Harthag]

Great spot. I think more people should because it's an incredible device. I'm waiting for a Gen 2 refresh because mine is showing its age now and doesn't perform so well.

It'll be the most effective cloth we've ever made, we think you're going to love it.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Don't think I've ever seen someone put the Apple Polishing Cloth in their sig 🤣🤣🤣.

Too bad these phones won't fully work with US carriers. I for one would buy this phone (or the regular 14) in a heartbeat.

When you own a Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 Superveloce Roadster, you can splurge on an Apple cloth, perhaps even a 6 pack of AC's. It works well on car paint too.

 

[h.gilbert]

Don't think I've ever seen someone put the Apple Polishing Cloth in their sig 🤣🤣🤣.

Too bad these phones won't fully work with US carriers. I for one would buy this phone (or the regular 14) in a heartbeat.

It's the highest quality product listed within my sig

 

[h.gilbert]

Great spot. I think more people should because it's an incredible device. I'm waiting for a Gen 2 refresh because mine is showing its age now and doesn't perform so well.

Gurman reports gen 2 will have a 40 billion weave count meaning about 80% higher multi-thread dust removal capacity. Mark his words.

 

[h.gilbert]

It is advanced tech in that part of the world, that made it far ahead of others. Made others blood boiled and teeth crunched. Sanctions and more sanctions. Only shot themselve in the foot. Period.

So many fantastic value Chinese phones that have essentially been banned in the US, a loss. No doubt android would be much more popular if the likes of Redmi/Poco/Realme was made available and supported.

 

[dumastudetto]

Gurman reports gen 2 will have a 40 billion weave count meaning about 80% higher multi-thread dust removal capacity. Mark his words.

I'm actually waiting on the pricier Polishing Cloth 2 Pro with that incredible new Space Black finish and an unbelievable 1mm super-sized de-dustifying experience. We pros have been crying out for these product enhancements for centuries, even before Polishing Cloth was conceived as a conceptualized experience.

 

[Harthag]

When you own a Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 Superveloce Roadster, you can splurge on an Apple cloth, perhaps even a 6 pack of AC's. It works well on car paint too.

Wiping down a Lambo with an Apple Polishing Cloth, now we’re talking!

I'm actually waiting on the pricier Polishing Cloth 2 Pro with that incredible new Space Black finish and an unbelievable 1mm super-sized de-dustifying experience. We pros have been crying out for these product enhancements for centuries, even before Polishing Cloth was conceived as a conceptualized experience.

But the new finish is prone to scratching just like the new titanium iPhones, so it’s best to wait for Gen 3.

 

[Harthag]

So many fantastic value Chinese phones that have essentially been banned in the US, a loss. No doubt android would be much more popular if the likes of Redmi/Poco/Realme was made available and supported.

It’s a real shame. I love the Xi Jinping phones as Floss calls them. I use Lenovo laptops, my wife is Chinese, I use WeChat. I haven’t been whacked yet. At the same time T-Mobile and Sony leaked my data more than once. The paranoia is strong here in ‘Murica.

 

[jamezr]

truth

 

[jamezr]

It’s a real shame. I love the Xi Jinping phones as Floss calls them. I use Lenovo laptops, my wife is Chinese, I use WeChat. I haven’t been whacked yet. At the same time T-Mobile and Sony leaked my data more than once. The paranoia is strong here in ‘Murica.

but that is not the whole story though. The paranoia is about the history Chinese companies stealing IP from US companies. Then releasing products in the US and abroad at lower prices because they didn't have to spend big bucks to develop that IP. China doesn't have the same laws to protect IP like the US does.
Some companies have no restriction in releasing products in the US. But they know they will be sued into oblivion when they do for IP theft.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/28/1-in-5-companies-say-china-stole-their-ip-within-the-last-year-cnbc.html

8 Steps Huawei Took to Steal IP from T-Mobile and Cover It Up

How does China steal intellectual property? This report shows steps Huawei took to steal trade secrets and IP. Warnings about Chinese corporate espionage.

www.secureworld.io

Chinese hackers took trillions in intellectual property from about 30 multinational companies

"We're talking about Blueprint diagrams of fighter jets, helicopters, and missiles," Cybereason CEO Lior Div told CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

A Robot Named 'Tappy': Huawei Conspired To Steal T-Mobile's Trade Secrets, Says DOJ

In an indictment that reads like a spy caper gone awry, the Justice Department alleges that the Chinese device maker urged its employees to sneak intel about T-Mobile's brilliant testing robot.

www.npr.org

China's Ally in Stealing Western IP: The United States

The Chinese government's agenda to steal competitors’ intellectual property, poses a significant long-term threat to the economic and national security of the United States.

www.csis.org

The Daring Ruse That Exposed China’s Campaign to Steal American Secrets (Published 2023)

How the downfall of one intelligence agent revealed the astonishing depth of Chinese industrial espionage.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Harthag]

but that is not the whole story though. The paranoia is about the history Chinese companies stealing IP from US companies. Then releasing products in the US and abroad at lower prices because they didn't have to spend big bucks to develop that IP. China doesn't have the same laws to protect IP like the US does.
Some companies have no restriction in releasing products in the US. But they know they will be sued into oblivion when they do for IP theft.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/28/1-in-5-companies-say-china-stole-their-ip-within-the-last-year-cnbc.html

8 Steps Huawei Took to Steal IP from T-Mobile and Cover It Up

How does China steal intellectual property? This report shows steps Huawei took to steal trade secrets and IP. Warnings about Chinese corporate espionage.

www.secureworld.io

Chinese hackers took trillions in intellectual property from about 30 multinational companies

"We're talking about Blueprint diagrams of fighter jets, helicopters, and missiles," Cybereason CEO Lior Div told CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

A Robot Named 'Tappy': Huawei Conspired To Steal T-Mobile's Trade Secrets, Says DOJ

In an indictment that reads like a spy caper gone awry, the Justice Department alleges that the Chinese device maker urged its employees to sneak intel about T-Mobile's brilliant testing robot.

www.npr.org

China's Ally in Stealing Western IP: The United States

The Chinese government's agenda to steal competitors’ intellectual property, poses a significant long-term threat to the economic and national security of the United States.

www.csis.org

The Daring Ruse That Exposed China’s Campaign to Steal American Secrets (Published 2023)

How the downfall of one intelligence agent revealed the astonishing depth of Chinese industrial espionage.

www.nytimes.com

Yes good points. Those are major security and IP issues and I spoke too broadly.

 

[MayaUser]

Gen 2 on the left, Xiaomi 14 pro on the right

 

[tbayrgs]

So many fantastic value Chinese phones that have essentially been banned in the US, a loss. No doubt android would be much more popular if the likes of Redmi/Poco/Realme was made available and supported.

Wouldn’t make a bit of difference here in the US. It’s essentially Apple, Samsung, a little sprinkling of Google and little else in the US. Couple that with the general sentiment towards China and its policies and you wouldn’t see any desire to purchase phones from Chinese OEMs.

I personally won’t for the reason’s highlighted by @jamezr. Many of the OEMs listed built their smartphone businesses literally copying Apple and Samsung’s hardware and software. Not gonna support that.

 

[ramram55]

It’s a real shame. I love the Xi Jinping phones as Floss calls them. I use Lenovo laptops, my wife is Chinese, I use WeChat. I haven’t been whacked yet. At the same time T-Mobile and Sony leaked my data more than once. The paranoia is strong here in ‘Murica.

In Canada https://gizmodo.com/wechat-deemed-security-risk-banned-in-canada-1850977922
WeChat is on the watch list, Lenovo was once IBM. 'Murica is going nowhere.

 

[h.gilbert]

Wouldn’t make a bit of difference here in the US. It’s essentially Apple, Samsung, a little sprinkling of Google and little else in the US. Couple that with the general sentiment towards China and its policies and you wouldn’t see any desire to purchase phones from Chinese OEMs.

I personally won’t for the reason’s highlighted by @jamezr. Many of the OEMs listed built their smartphone businesses literally copying Apple and Samsung’s hardware and software. Not gonna support that.

Samsung and Google are still relatively expensive, and their budget range is pretty poor compared to Chinese models of the same price.

The smartphone shape and build is quite standardised and the components are all sourced from Sony, Samsung, Qualcomm etc anyway.

 

[h.gilbert]

but that is not the whole story though. The paranoia is about the history Chinese companies stealing IP from US companies. Then releasing products in the US and abroad at lower prices because they didn't have to spend big bucks to develop that IP. China doesn't have the same laws to protect IP like the US does.
Some companies have no restriction in releasing products in the US. But they know they will be sued into oblivion when they do for IP theft.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/28/1-in-5-companies-say-china-stole-their-ip-within-the-last-year-cnbc.html

8 Steps Huawei Took to Steal IP from T-Mobile and Cover It Up

How does China steal intellectual property? This report shows steps Huawei took to steal trade secrets and IP. Warnings about Chinese corporate espionage.

www.secureworld.io

Chinese hackers took trillions in intellectual property from about 30 multinational companies

"We're talking about Blueprint diagrams of fighter jets, helicopters, and missiles," Cybereason CEO Lior Div told CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

A Robot Named 'Tappy': Huawei Conspired To Steal T-Mobile's Trade Secrets, Says DOJ

In an indictment that reads like a spy caper gone awry, the Justice Department alleges that the Chinese device maker urged its employees to sneak intel about T-Mobile's brilliant testing robot.

www.npr.org

China's Ally in Stealing Western IP: The United States

The Chinese government's agenda to steal competitors’ intellectual property, poses a significant long-term threat to the economic and national security of the United States.

www.csis.org

The Daring Ruse That Exposed China’s Campaign to Steal American Secrets (Published 2023)

How the downfall of one intelligence agent revealed the astonishing depth of Chinese industrial espionage.

www.nytimes.com

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[h.gilbert]

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Gen 2 on the left, Xiaomi 14 pro on the right

8 Gen 3 looks really impressive so far, it's basically caught up to the latest Apple chip for the first I can remember at least.

 

[JapanApple]

WeChat is on the watch list, Lenovo was once IBM. 'Murica is going nowhere.

IBM sold its div to Lenovo and they got out of that part of the industry. It's been hell for the IBM workers that were in that div ever since.

 

[The Game 161]

xiaomi will always have great hardware

I have the 13 ultra and the specs are great. software isn't my favourite though and at times is frustrating to use. great device though.

the 3,000 nits I think now is more of a marketing thing as next to 15 pro max the xiaomi 14 pro looks same and in some areas iPhone looked brighter

 

[h.gilbert]

xiaomi will always have great hardware

I have the 13 ultra and the specs are great. software isn't my favourite though and at times is frustrating to use. great device though.

the 3,000 nits I think now is more of a marketing thing as next to 15 pro max the xiaomi 14 pro looks same and in some areas iPhone looked brighter

Yep the max brightness stats are a little annoying as it's usually HDR max brightness or max auto and not the brightness when you manually max out the slider

 

[blueisharpersdog]

how is it compared to huawei