10.11.2 and TM

[Donfor39]

And?

Downloaded ccc trial, what an improvement where the aes/external hdd had to be added manually when I last purchased ccc in 2013-latest version automatically sees network and external hdd.

Trying a new clone today though not sure if mac OS X recovery is being copied, I want a re bootable clone which i've never achieved.

 

[Weaselboy]

Does ccc copy OS X recovery partition to hdd via wifi when I had to select my home folder as ccc advised I couldn't copy hdd as it was previously used for TM

I have not tested that, but I don't believe it will copt the recovery partition over wifi. Also, you are just copying your user folder and not the whole volume, so that definitely will not be bootable.

Even if you did select the entire volume, a CCC backup over the network does not backup system files and will not be bootable. If you want a true bootable clone, you need to have the disk locally attached (like USB) to the Mac. See this.

 

[Donfor39]

Thanks...

probably revert to TM

 

[Ebenezum]

They actually do... a clone (restore) with Disk Utility will bring over the recovery partition as will a restore from a local Time Machine backup (since 10.7.2).

Yes but what I mean is it available for developers to use in their software? Last time I looked through Apples developer resources was a few weeks ago and I didn't find any references to it.

 

[Weaselboy]

Yes but what I mean is it available for developers to use in their software? Last time I looked through Apples developer resources was a few weeks ago and I didn't find any references to it.

Oh I see... no I don't think there is any way to access that from another app.

 

[Donfor39]

I have not tested that, but I don't believe it will copt the recovery partition over wifi. Also, you are just copying your user folder and not the whole volume, so that definitely will not be bootable.

Even if you did select the entire volume, a CCC backup over the network does not backup system files and will not be bootable. If you want a true bootable clone, you need to have the disk locally attached (like USB) to the Mac. See this.

Going to let ccc complete this wifi clone.

I presume if I require to download OS X 10 from any working mac I could sign into app store and my purchases are available to download, this saves me cloning via usb.

 

[KoolAid-Drink]

TM has been awful for me in 10.11.x as well, starting with 10.11.0. When browsing any other window other than (~), entering TM will abruptly leap to (~), which should not be what happens. The smooth animation from Yosemite and ML has disappeared, too - it's very abrupt and disorienting. Exiting has a beachball.

TM's UI was broken in Mavericks. Yosemite fixed it, but looks like it's been broken again in 10.11.

 

[Psyfuzz]

Mine's been 'Preparing Backup' for a significant amount of time now,

Along with a load of bugs such as hot corners no longer working, Mail disconnecting to the server constantly, iTunes continually dragging to the top of 'album' view etc. Not a great result for an El Cap update - especially considering this is a release focused on optimisation and fixing Yosemite's issues.

Side note: Since 10.11.2 Powerpoint no longer works, I can't go fullscreen to show my slides which renders it useless. I'm guessing this is OS X related since it's not demonstrated this behaviour before the update.

 

[Weaselboy]

Going to let ccc complete this wifi clone.

I presume if I require to download OS X 10 from any working mac I could sign into app store and my purchases are available to download, this saves me cloning via usb.

Yes... correct.

 

[Ebenezum]

Oh I see... no I don't think there is any way to access that from another app.

Which brings back my original question, is there any drawbacks with CCC cloning Recovery Partition since it seems that Apple isn't providing an official way for developers to use and there is no technical explanation on Bombich site on how the feature is implemented?

It seems answer at this point is "unknown".

 

[Weaselboy]

Which brings back my original question, is there any drawbacks with CCC cloning Recovery Partition since it seems that Apple isn't providing an official way for developers to use and there is no technical explanation on Bombich site on how the feature is implemented?

It seems answer at this point is "unknown".

I don't know of any issues with it or drawbacks, but I can tell you a CCC copy of the recovery partition does work.

 

[CoastalOR]

Which brings back my original question, is there any drawbacks with CCC cloning Recovery Partition since it seems that Apple isn't providing an official way for developers to use and there is no technical explanation on Bombich site on how the feature is implemented?
It seems answer at this point is "unknown".

I have used CCC 4 to create the Recovery volume on my clones and restore the Recovery to a new HDDs or SSDs successfully more than once. It has worked for me with clones of 10.8, 10.9, 10.10 & 10.11. So far I have not encountered any drawbacks.

Here is some information about the process for creating Recover HD from Bombich:
http://bombich.com//kb/ccc4/cloning-apples-recovery-hd-partition

 

[Ebenezum]

I don't know of any issues with it or drawbacks, but I can tell you a CCC copy of the recovery partition does work.

I have used CCC 4 to create the Recovery volume on my clones and restore the Recovery to a new HDDs or SSDs successfully more than once. It has worked for me with clones of 10.8, 10.9, 10.10 & 10.11. So far I have not encountered any drawbacks.

Here is some information about the process for creating Recover HD from Bombich:
http://bombich.com//kb/ccc4/cloning-apples-recovery-hd-partition

I'm aware of that article, it doesn't explain the technical process behind the feature.

I know that the feature works in most cases but I tend to be conservative when it comes to computers and especially when using backup software. I have nothing against CCC but I will not use software which uses features whose underpinning isn't described by its developer.

 

[CoastalOR]

I'm aware of that article, it doesn't explain the technical process behind the feature.
I know that the feature works in most cases but I tend to be conservative when it comes to computers and especially when using backup software. I have nothing against CCC but I will not use software which uses features whose underpinning isn't described by its developer.

As a user, all I can tell you is I have not encountered any "drawbacks", as stated in my post. You might be better served to contact the developer if you need more detailed information about the "technical process behind the feature".