Don't know what magic Apple has puled here, the late 2013 rMBP 13" that I had has always lagged but this fresh install of 10.11 is quite honestly amazing for the performance.
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10.11 is...wow.
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Indeed. I also installed it last evening on my brand new mid-2015 15 inch since Yosemite was simply unusable. Safari was lagging so much, mission control was super choppy, even on this brand new machine. El Cap looks like it's going to fix most of the annoyances of Yosemite, so looking forward to the next betas.
I hope that the later betas get even faster and smoother.
I agree. So far, smooth sailing. Except for Mail. It crashes on me a lot. Love the new Notes app, but let's be honest, that's not innovation. I think Apple might be out of gas with OS X.
So Apple did its job improving Yosemite? Good.
Also, innovation doesn't always come with new features. It can also be under the hood performance upgrades.
Also, innovation doesn't always come with new features. It can also be under the hood performance upgrades.
Apple stated quite clearly that this iteration of OSX would not be about innovation or new features and much more about speed stability and fixing bugs. That in no way means they have run out steam with OSX it just means they have a sensible attitude to how often new things need to be introduced. If you are going to have a new OS update every year it seems sensible to have one year of new stuff then the next year sorting out the coding etc. Personally I'd rather they got it right first time and released a new one every 18 months - 2 years but that just doesn't seem to be the way its going.
I mean, that's basically what they're doing. But marketing just wants it to appear new. Naming it El Capitan, which is within Yosemite is basically like the S version of the phones. It's an slight improvement over the existing version, but treating it as new.
Slight improvement over 10.10? More like a huge improvement from what I have reading so far. I am really looking forward to the public release of 10.11.
I'm happy they're going for the snow leopard approach with El Cap. The OS feels less bloated and more fine tuned.
I don't understand all these lag issues for people running Yosemite. I have a 2012 13" MBA and I have never had a problem with any Apple app in Yosemite. It's always been snappy for me (except for maybe the first couple Public Betas). From what others have been saying about El Capitan, I just can't imagine it being even faster. Still, looking forward to the new features especially for Notes, Safari pinned tabs, and Photos geotagging.
I'm running Yosemite on a 2010 15" Macbook. Never had a problem. Snappy as hell. I keep wanting to get something newer, but it's hard to get rid of something that works as well as some of the newer MacBooks. Thumbs up for Yosemite!
I had a 2010 as well, I just upgraded to a 2015 15" w/ dGPU, and it's a significant difference. The frame-rate for the OS is probably double of the 2010, nearly 60fps all the time -- everything feels more 'buttery'.
And from what it sounds like, El Capitan is going to increase that even more.
You could do just that. Install only every other OS
Since Yosemite has been very problematic I seriously hope 10.11 will bring much needed speed into OS X. If it doesn't my iMac will stay in 10.9 which has no problems with speed.
My Mac Mini 2014 is basically unusable slow with stock hard drive with Yosemite, I installed SSD into a USB3 enclosure and it helped a lot but I am very upset that Apple didn't bother to test Yosemite properly with hard drive. I am considering to taking it back to store and demanding my money back!
My Mac Mini 2014 is basically unusable slow with stock hard drive with Yosemite, I installed SSD into a USB3 enclosure and it helped a lot but I am very upset that Apple didn't bother to test Yosemite properly with hard drive. I am considering to taking it back to store and demanding my money back!
Ya, I think that most of the issues with UI lag and stuttering are seen on laptops with Retina displays. So many more pixels to push, it's taking up a lot more GPU resources, and causes some of the animations and transitions in the UI to look a bit choppy on the Retina displays running in HiDPI
It's a huge improvement. You can feel the speed boost even on the high end retina 5K. Even moreso on lower end models.
The full screen split is already immensely useful for me using Espresso for web dev work. Same with the responsive mode in Safari.
The full screen split is already immensely useful for me using Espresso for web dev work. Same with the responsive mode in Safari.
Good to know, I haven't touched my main Mac with it yet. It feels a bit more smooth on my 13" rMBP than Yosemite was, which is an impressive feat for such an early beta.
I turned all the eye candy back on and everything is still very smooth. Then I turned it back off because I've gotten so used to not using it..
It must be why they developed Metal for OS X (but I don't think they've mentioned it anywhere). It's a natural progression from iOS, but with the much more complex UI of desktop, not to mention higher resolutions, the performance improvements would be drastic. I'm waiting until DP2 to get it for myself. I don't often see the stuttering on my 15" rMBP since I'm always on external, but the performance will nice to see regardless.
I haven't used Yosemite on my personal Macs so I don't know about all the performance issues. The issues I've seen on all Macs, even the most recent ones, was poor resizing and scrolling performance in the Finder and other apps, and poor performance when switching preference panes.
I hope 10.11 solves this.
I hope 10.11 solves this.
Oh for gods sake you love the new notes app but it's not innovation. What is it with some of you. Notes is about notes not blowing your mind