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drjsway

macrumors 6502a
Jan 8, 2009
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2
IT`S NOT A STANDALONE DEVICE!!! People are forgetting this!

It IS a stand alone device. Even the iPhone is a standalone device. A lot of my friends have never plugged their iPhone into a computer and they are still browsing the web, checking e-mail, IMing friends, downloading apps, music, movies, books, and having a great time.
 

Halamolo

macrumors regular
Jun 24, 2009
195
0
It IS a stand alone device. Even the iPhone is a standalone device. A lot of my friends have never plugged their iPhone into a computer and they are still browsing the web, checking e-mail, IMing friends, downloading apps, music, movies, books, and having a great time.

Hmm, that´s weird... When I got my iPhone 3G and then 3GS, they had to be activated WITH a computer that has iTunes. Luckily I had a Mac though, ´cause otherwise I could not have used my iPhones at all.

And everytime I want to add/remove photos, music or install apps (over 10MB) or updates I need to have that darn computer.

This goes for the iPad and iPod Touch too.

Would be quite funny if someone who doesn´t have a computer, went and bought an iPad thinking it´s a standalone product? :)

So who are these kids saying "iPhone and iPad are standalone devices"? The misinfo is getting out of hand here.
 

TheSpaz

macrumors 604
Jun 20, 2005
7,032
1
Hmm, that´s weird... When I got my iPhone 3G and then 3GS, they had to be activated WITH a computer that has iTunes. Luckily I had a Mac though, ´cause otherwise I could not have used my iPhones at all.

And everytime I want to add/remove photos, music or install apps (over 10MB) or updates I need to have that darn computer.

This goes for the iPad and iPod Touch too.

Would be quite funny if someone who doesn´t have a computer, went and bought an iPad thinking it´s a standalone product? :)

So who are these kids saying "iPhone and iPad are standalone devices"? The misinfo is getting out of hand here.

Actually... I don't know what planet you're from but all of my iPhone 3Gs were activated by AT&T reps or Apple reps AT THE STORE and were ready to use without connecting it to a computer.

Nice try though.
 

steve-p

macrumors 68000
Oct 14, 2008
1,740
42
Newbury, UK
Actually... I don't know what planet you're from but all of my iPhone 3Gs were activated by AT&T reps or Apple reps AT THE STORE and were ready to use without connecting it to a computer.
Planet OusideTheUSA or planet BoughtOnline maybe?
 

TheSpaz

macrumors 604
Jun 20, 2005
7,032
1
Planet OusideTheUSA or planet BoughtOnline maybe?

Fair enough.

Who's to say that you need another computer to make the iPad work? Why wouldn't you be able to just turn it on and start playing right away?
 

steve-p

macrumors 68000
Oct 14, 2008
1,740
42
Newbury, UK
Who's to say that you need another computer to make the iPad work? Why wouldn't you be able to just turn it on and start playing right away?
I agree, it should work right out of the box, since it doesn't have any carrier-locked phone issues. Does the iPod Touch work like that?
 

Lesser Evets

macrumors 68040
Jan 7, 2006
3,527
1,295
1) It will get people reading credible authentic texts, professionally published magazines and books again... Internet research will finally have meaning and value.
You assume that text are credible when in print. There is as much garbage outside the net as in the net. You only build credibility by researching and cross researching, interviewing, and using logical arguments and connection. However, it could open publications completely to the internet, and get rid of a great deal of printing...making corruptibility far easier in future.

2) It will enable ‘big media’ publishers to reach an online audience who have disengaged or have *never* engaged with traditional well researched printed forms.
Possibly. It depends on the content they offer.

3) Magazines and newspapers will be able to monetize their content through iTunes and readers will be able to enjoy magazines wherever they go. Ads may become a thing of pleasure ( as they often are in proper magazines)
Possibly. It depends on the content they offer.

4) It will help save the environment. Sunday Papers alone are HUGE, often 4 inches thick.
This is propaganda bull***
Trees are like crops. Are we destroying the environment by harvesting wheat? Corn? Potatoes? Same damn thing. Trees are just farmed in larger rotating patches. We are NOT destroying any environment.

5) Books may evolve. A textbook or encyclopedia can be printed in an exciting electronic format and integrated with movies, images and connecting stories that can be revised and updated instantly
Undoubtably. This will be an excellent bonus to electronic over print media. How-to stuff will possibly become a lot better. Whole work-study environments could be bundled, making universities close to passe with scant instruction needed.

6) Your ‘mom’ can use one without needing to call on Junior for tech support, or to fix virus or spyware problems.
We can hope. This is what Apple in particular should be aiming toward constantly. Our computer technology for the common market is woefully complex and ridiculously wasting everyone's time with a lifelong learning curve.

8) The SDK will evolve to permit anyone to become a magazine or book publisher (albeit that conflicts with point 1, it will be clearer as to the origin of credible content)
Yep. Sure will.

9) It’s cheap and will over the next decade get cheaper to the point of absurdity.
Never to absurdity, unless a Pad becomes so limited it merely functions to display one thing or one media form. In that case I could see small Pads given away with happy meals and such. The technology would have to be SO mass produced to be pennies-a-pop. This could happen, but in 30 or more years if the economy keeps growing as it did pre-government over regulation.

10) They are going to be a ton of fun in a social space and for families. Group games and social interfacing with people and organisations 'on the street' will boom with these things.
Probably in some form.

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You are overly excited about excellence in information.

The internet has done one decisive thing for journalism and information: it made it cheaper and far more linked into sensationalism and advertising than ever before. Now, it is easier to fill a page with opinion rather than research and have people loving it, viewing repeatedly, and ad revenue going up.

When info was rare and hard to create in print, people either did it well enough to survive or were gone quickly. No one has truly capitalized on the idea of packaging pure excellence and marketing it. Mostly because anyone can copy or relate such info for free moments later. Unless very very very strict copyright laws fall down on the internet, there will be what we have now: opinion sans tangible research. Most all papers are now castrated by the fact that they were just reprinting wire media from large news companies like the AP, and people can use the internet to get the original story and not have to pay for a newspaper. Only a small batch of local stories are unique to local papers.

Magazine/newspaper publishers will have to have a constantly updating and precise and unique product to get customers. It gets rid of the ridiculous press time and makes a free schedule for most work. However, legal issues on the internet will have to become rigid for business to flourish.
 

ct2k7

macrumors G3
Aug 29, 2008
8,382
3,439
London
It IS a stand alone device. Even the iPhone is a standalone device. A lot of my friends have never plugged their iPhone into a computer and they are still browsing the web, checking e-mail, IMing friends, downloading apps, music, movies, books, and having a great time.

So then how the hell do they update the OS... or don't they :eek:

Your friends don't have 3.1 at most. lol
 

drjsway

macrumors 6502a
Jan 8, 2009
936
2
Hmm, that´s weird... When I got my iPhone 3G and then 3GS, they had to be activated WITH a computer that has iTunes. Luckily I had a Mac though, ´cause otherwise I could not have used my iPhones at all.

And everytime I want to add/remove photos, music or install apps (over 10MB) or updates I need to have that darn computer.

They activate it for you in the store and they have stores outside the US. You can downloaded any app over 10MB on a WiFi connection and update them as well. OS updates aren't necessary to use the device but if you really wanted it, you can bring it to the Apple store and they'll do that as well. You can add remove photos on your iPhone.
 

BreezyXC60

macrumors member
Jan 27, 2010
35
0
Edmonton, AB
They activate it for you in the store and they have stores outside the US. You can downloaded any app over 10MB on a WiFi connection and update them as well. OS updates aren't necessary to use the device but if you really wanted it, you can bring it to the Apple store and they'll do that as well. You can add remove photos on your iPhone.

Do you me in the photo section or just the camera section? If your talking about the photo section, how do you do that?
 

hugodrax

macrumors 65816
Jul 15, 2007
1,225
640
I could go for WSJ iPad edition and scrap the daily print copy, just pay the iPad version. I see NYT is coming out with a NYT iPad app as well.
 

BreezyXC60

macrumors member
Jan 27, 2010
35
0
Edmonton, AB
I could go for WSJ iPad edition and scrap the daily print copy, just pay the iPad version. I see NYT is coming out with a NYT iPad app as well.

CNN just had a rep from the NYT talking about the iPad on about ten minutes ago. Of course he was raving about it and said he hasn't washed his hand since he touched the iPad at the news release.
 

Mkallevik

macrumors member
Oct 26, 2007
59
0
Hmm, that´s weird... When I got my iPhone 3G and then 3GS, they had to be activated WITH a computer that has iTunes. Luckily I had a Mac though, ´cause otherwise I could not have used my iPhones at all.

And everytime I want to add/remove photos, music or install apps (over 10MB) or updates I need to have that darn computer.

This goes for the iPad and iPod Touch too.

Would be quite funny if someone who doesn´t have a computer, went and bought an iPad thinking it´s a standalone product? :)

So who are these kids saying "iPhone and iPad are standalone devices"? The misinfo is getting out of hand here.

1. Can be fixed easily

2.
-Add photos: You can add photos with a dongle and a camera.
-Remove photos: Can you imagine that it is possible to make a button for this?
-You can buy music on the device
-You can install and update apps over 10mb over wifi, but not over 3g. What you are saying is just wrong.

Even though it may not be a stand-alone device completely, it still functions like one. That goes for iPhone touch too, if you activate it in store.
 

~~Hello~~

macrumors 6502
Apr 27, 2007
291
17
You're describing the internet, it's already been invented by Al Gore:D When an iPad does as much as a netbook people can give up their Macbooks, until then you'd be totally crippled.

Since when did Al Gore create the internet?
 

Halamolo

macrumors regular
Jun 24, 2009
195
0
Even though it may not be a stand-alone device completely...

Well if it´s not a "standalone device completely", it´s NOT a standalone device then is it?

Bottom line: It needs a computer with iTunes. Period. So there is no debate.
 
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