Yeah, the future is a dock that gives you a Desktop eXperience. That'd be great. Maybe somebody will create one some day.
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Yeah, the future is a dock that gives you a Desktop eXperience. That'd be great. Maybe somebody will create one some day.
I am using DEX-pad with my Note9 almost daily now. The browser is what I mostly need (since many of the services I used are web/cloud-based). It is surprisingly good. Even most of the non-DEX apps are still pretty usable with the DEX-lab extension. Performance is good too.
It is a nice feeling using the phone (with all the phone apps) on a big desktop monitor with a mouse and full size keyboard. And I have the 512gb Note9 which allows me to have whatever apps/files I want on the phone without any limitations.
There are still some quirks which I hope Samsung can rectify soon
Huawei Mate 20 Pro does all this wirelessly with a Desktop UI, we are already in the future, it's just a matter of refinement.
I was sarcastically referring to DeX, the thing on Samsung phones. Also, wireless is something I would not want to do for something like this. Give me a cord every time.
Got you.
Well you have options. HDMI or Wireless.
We are going towards wireless, where you will just arrive at your office and your phone will connect to your desktop Monitor with a Locked User Profile that you could then unlock with biometrics and from there your phone operates normally while it beams your Desktop UI to your Monitor in the background, your monitor will be connected to a BT mouse and BT keyboard.
Your phone will be the central device. You will probably have a wireless charging desk and/or cable to allow all this to operate without taking too much power, or the Monitor will handle a large portion of the computing while your phone works more like a ping point for it to ping every few minutes to ensure you are still connected.
All this stuff is possible, I think it's just a matter of Standards being found AAAAND more powerful hardware which includes more RAM to allow mobiles to handle all this with ease.
It can be done now. Mirror the phone screen to monitor via wifi-direct/miracast and connect your BT mouse & keyboard to phone. Samsung just need to activate the desktop UI when the mirroring starts. I think this would be the next step since they have deprecated their physical DEX docking station.
erm what do you think apple and google is doing? nobody said hardware wasnt there. it's software.
Dragging their feet and wasting time on garbage like "memoji" when they could have had this done with a reasonable amount of effort put into it, 3-5 years ago (even without the charging pad - that's just gravy).
I'm not even kidding. The software is almost all there too. Add mouse support to iOS, put out a wireless display/dock for it, and bingo.... pretty much done. Sure it won't be macOS, but for a lot of office users even iOS in that situation would be good enough. I know this, because I've done it, sans wireless display and wireless peripherals, for a year. I also gave it a go with an original iPad mini several years ago and it was ALMOST tolerable with a bluetooth keyboard for a lot of basic stuff back then.
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Why?
For business/productivity use, airplay works just fine. Bluetooth works just fine for input peripherals and has done for a decade or more. It will only get better. And at short range (i.e., from my chair/desk area to my monitor) high speed high frequency wireless connectivity will make it more responsive.
Cords suck. With wireless, i wouldn't even need to take the ipad/phone out of my bag or pocket if it had plenty of charge. Just sit down at desk and work. Need to leave? No need to lock screen. No need to unplug, save work, power down, etc.. Just get up and walk out.
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More power use and likely a lower frame rate experience is not what I'd call great. Input devices are one thing, but streaming an entire OS is kind of beyond what BT is useful for.
Cords take less power, transfer data faster, and are more reliable. What are you going to do when your BT stack crashes?
memoji are small wins. something that they can push out quickly. apple is a huge company, they definitely have the resources to handle many projects at the same time. that said, they might be dragging their feet, because they are a hardware company, software isnt their strongest point and they would rather sell you more hardware.
android was originally designed for cameras, ios for mobile. there will be limitations and compatibility issues when trying to use it across platforms. then there is also security consideration. you are also able to accomplish more things on your laptops, so android and iOS is insufficient in a traditional work environment.
i think samsung (not sure, this was quite a few years ago) released a similar product. it's a screen that you can plug your phone in to become a tablet. my friend used to have one, but i think the product died a natural death. now my friend is happy with his tablet and phone. to quote an adage from the VC world, the new product needs to be 10x better to gain adoption.
I'm not sure you are aware of how this stuff works. You aren't "Streaming the entire OS".
You can do remote desktop over wireless just fine (I've been doing it for the past oh, 10-15 years or so).
I've used the precursor to this, Continuum. Wireless was limited to 30fps and wrecked the battery life.
And? This somehow means it can never be done? Pfft.
Continuum is Microsoft.
The device would be on a charging pad.
Yes. I am serious. I am a thousand percent serious. Microsoft is able to support a device for ten years, often devices with worse specs than last years flagship from Google. They’re able to code an OS that gets updated monthly, every month, and push out those updates to hundreds of millions of people every month.
Google is able to support a ChromeOS device for five years. They’re able to support a Pixel phone for three years. Chrome benefits from the same thing IE used to, marketshare. The internet is coded around Chrome, not the other way around.
Google is actually kind of **** at software when you think about it.
Samsung and Huawei aren’t even in the league of Google.
Really? Where's the 10 year old supported Microsoft hardware?
Have you tried to get ANY sort of support for Microsoft Windows phones? Have you ever actually called Microsoft for bug support?
Microsoft are (primarily) in the software market, not hardware. And their continued "support" of ancient third party hardware is a large reason why their software is such insecure garbage. In any case, Microsoft do not enable spectre or meltdown protection on machines without a BIOS upgrade from the vendor (as opposed to Linux, which supports such protections whether or not the BIOS is updated) and for example my 4-5 year old gigabyte board got no bios update. So no, Microsoft do not even reliably "support" 4 year old hardware properly for critical security issues. No, a BIOS update is NOT required for this protection, if the OS vendor chooses to put the mitigations in the OS. Microsoft CHOSE NOT TO.
Device support is largely from third party driver support by the hardware OEMs submitting their hardware drivers to Microsoft. Microsoft DO NOT develop all the drivers supplied either in windows, windows update or available for download to support Microsoft Windows. Hardware support is a third party hardware OEM issue.
And? I had the option of hardware (system board) replacement of my 2011 macbook pro for FREE in 2017. I run iphones for 3 years on a regular basis with support.
But none of this has anything to do with software quality.
Maybe get educated before you start spouting off on topics you clearly know very little about.
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None of your examples have anything to do Either Google, Samsung, or Huawei. So congrats, you don’t even know how to properly retort. Maybe you should get educated before you start spouting off on topics you clearly know nothing about.
Maybe you can re-read what I said. And I said they’re better than Google, Samsung, or Huawei.
