13" Sandy Bridge Air vs Sandy Bridge 13" MBP?

[Apple Expert]

I'm really curious now too. I'm looking to buy either the high end MBA or the base 13" MBP.

I used to have a 2010 base model 13" MBP and it had JUST enough power to run some cool games that had pretty nice graphics. I need my next computer to at least match the graphics power I got from that machine. Would one of the new MBAs do that? Is there a difference between the integrated GPU in the Air and the integrated GPU in the base 13" MBP?

Same here. I have a brand new in box base MBP 13". It's a gift for my wife, however the MBA is soo nice! Just don't really care for the silver bezel around the screen. I like the look of the MBP, but the thinness of the MBA. If it does come with a backlight keyboard, then it's going to be a tough decision if I should keep the MBP or go for the MBA.

 

[cleric]

do you even have 50mbit of connection speed? i mean 100mbit is more than enough in terms of speed. unless you want to connect 2 pcs directly, without an internet connection in which case, speed matters.

My wireless N pushes 200mbit so you would have to have a faster connection than that. Though it would be nice to be able to access the server at Gigabit speeds some times.

 

[cleric]

These are my guesses.

13" MBA Base CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-2629M Processor (Duel Core, 2.1 GHz(3.0GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

13" MBA BTO CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-2649M Processor (Duel Core, 2.3 GHz(3.2GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

versus

13" MBP First CPU
Intel® Core™ i5-2410M Processor (Duel Core, 2.30 GHz(2.9 GHz turbo) 3M Cache)

13" MBP Second CPU
Intel® Core™ i7-2620M Processor (Duel Core, 2.70 GHz(3.4 GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

So the MBA that goes for $1,699.00 will have similar processor speed to the Pro that goes for $1,199.00

So do the cores fight each other how does that work?

 

[orfeas0]

These are my guesses.

13" MBA Base CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-2629M Processor (Duel Core, 2.1 GHz(3.0GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

13" MBA BTO CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-2649M Processor (Duel Core, 2.3 GHz(3.2GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

versus

13" MBP First CPU
Intel® Core™ i5-2410M Processor (Duel Core, 2.30 GHz(2.9 GHz turbo) 3M Cache)

13" MBP Second CPU
Intel® Core™ i7-2620M Processor (Duel Core, 2.70 GHz(3.4 GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

So the MBA that goes for $1,699.00 will have similar processor speed to the Pro that goes for $1,199.00

2,1 ghz in the air? it will catch fire!
Whatever the frequency of the sb is , it will have turbo boost. That means even if it's ~1,7ghz duo, it will be able to turbo boost to 2,6! I mean that will double the air's cpu power!

 

[drewyboy]

So do the cores fight each other how does that work?

Man, you made me laugh. I needed it after reading all the piss and moan going on in the FCPX forum on how it's not "pro" anymore.

 

[kristoffer4]

These are my guesses.

13" MBA Base CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-2629M Processor (Duel Core, 2.1 GHz(3.0GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

13" MBA BTO CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-2649M Processor (Duel Core, 2.3 GHz(3.2GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

versus

13" MBP First CPU
Intel® Core™ i5-2410M Processor (Duel Core, 2.30 GHz(2.9 GHz turbo) 3M Cache)

13" MBP Second CPU
Intel® Core™ i7-2620M Processor (Duel Core, 2.70 GHz(3.4 GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

So the MBA that goes for $1,699.00 will have similar processor speed to the Pro that goes for $1,199.00

So even the base MBA will be more powerful than my new MBP 13" base?
Well I guess that is technology for you!

 

[h00ligan]

These are my guesses.

13" MBA Base CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-2629M Processor (Duel Core, 2.1 GHz(3.0GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

13" MBA BTO CPU:
Intel® Core™ i7-2649M Processor (Duel Core, 2.3 GHz(3.2GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

versus

13" MBP First CPU
Intel® Core™ i5-2410M Processor (Duel Core, 2.30 GHz(2.9 GHz turbo) 3M Cache)

13" MBP Second CPU
Intel® Core™ i7-2620M Processor (Duel Core, 2.70 GHz(3.4 GHz turbo) 4M Cache)

So the MBA that goes for $1,699.00 will have similar processor speed to the Pro that goes for $1,199.00

I doubt those cpu choices highly.. more likely to see the just released goods.
Not really sure what your logic is there...


Core i7-2677M: 2 cores, 1.8 GHz (turbos to 2.9GHz), 4MB cache, 17 watts, $317
Core i7-2637M: 2 cores, 1.7GHz (turbos to 2.8GHz), 4MB cache, 17 watts, $289
Core i5-2557M: 2 cores, 1.7GHz (turbos to 2.7GHz), 3MB cache, 17 watts, $250

It will go,

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imo

They are going to use lower watt processors than you speculate.. even if it is feasible, in this line they will trade off for longer battery life.

 

[Young Spade]

So do the cores fight each other how does that work?

I thought you were serious until I read what you quoted; I'd go for the latter two though; the RAM in each machine might be the deciding factor though.

 

[Hellhammer]

They are going to use lower watt processors than you speculate.. even if it is feasible, in this line they will trade off for longer battery life.

So why didn't Apple go with ULV C2Ds in the 13" in 2010 then? They could have used the ULV chips right from the beginning if they wanted to. Battery life would not be affected because of SpeedStep, at least not heavily. Your faster and higher TDP chip will run at lower clock speed when idling to save battery. That means ULV and LV chips should use roughly the same amount of power when idling. The TDP only reveals the maximum power draw in normal usage (the real maximum is 20-30% more), it isn't comparable to the idle usage.