14 Inch Macbook Pro (2021) - 4 day total battery drain while sleeping

[rodrigoounao]

Screen Time off?

I turned off soon as I read the posts here. already shut down the Mac and restarted he stil lmakes the same performance, 4 hours off web and videos with 50%. is like about 8% an hour of light usage on low power mode. I don't know if that's what's supposed to be or something is wrong with the mac.

 

[Sanpete]

I turned off soon as I read the posts here. already shut down the Mac and restarted he stil lmakes the same performance, 4 hours off web and videos with 50%. is like about 8% an hour of light usage on low power mode. I don't know if that's what's supposed to be or something is wrong with the mac.

Is it attached to any other device?

 

[veebee]

I turned off soon as I read the posts here. already shut down the Mac and restarted he stil lmakes the same performance, 4 hours off web and videos with 50%. is like about 8% an hour of light usage on low power mode. I don't know if that's what's supposed to be or something is wrong with the mac.

I have very similar problems. Light usage drains battery, photoshop usage drains battery, put to sleep drains battery. Not sure if I should return it. I barely get 4 hours usage no matter what I am doing before needing to recharge. This is just above what I was getting with my MBP 2013 that this M1 replaced - ugh!

 

[AjTee]

Hello,

I still have some battery drain on my MBP M1 Pro 14".

So far I have done below:

• Powernap disabled
• Tcpkeepalive disabled
• Proximitywake disabled
• Screen time disabled
• schedule cancel all executed
• checked activity monitor and sleep history (nothing)

xxxi@MacBook-Pro-Jakub ~ % pmset -g log | grep "Wake Requests"
2022-07-16 12:11:03 +0200 Wake Requests [*process=mDNSResponder request=Maintenance deltaSecs=2689 wakeAt=2022-07-16 12:55:52 info="DHCP lease renewal"]
2022-07-16 12:12:22 +0200 Wake Requests [*process=mDNSResponder request=Maintenance deltaSecs=2618 wakeAt=2022-07-16 12:56:00 info="DHCP lease renewal"]
2022-07-16 12:56:50 +0200 Wake Requests [*process=mDNSResponder request=Maintenance deltaSecs=3199 wakeAt=2022-07-16 13:50:10 info="DHCP lease renewal"]
2022-07-16 13:51:00 +0200 Wake Requests [*process=mDNSResponder request=Maintenance deltaSecs=3199 wakeAt=2022-07-16 14:44:20 info="DHCP lease renewal"]
2022-07-16 14:45:11 +0200 Wake Requests [*process=mDNSResponder request=Maintenance deltaSecs=3199 wakeAt=2022-07-16 15:38:30 info="DHCP lease renewal"]
xxxi@MacBook-Pro-Jakub ~ %

Battery history below:

I can see that process mDNSResponder is preventing sleep sometimes.

What is it? Can I disable it? It looks like that it does DHCP lease renewal every time.

Regards,
Jakub

 

[ciaoben91]

Do anyone have any news or found a solution on this?

 

[TinyMito]

Hello,

I still have some battery drain on my MBP M1 Pro 14".

So far I have done below:

• Powernap disabled
• Tcpkeepalive disabled
• Proximitywake disabled
• Screen time disabled
• schedule cancel all executed
• checked activity monitor and sleep history (nothing)

Battery history below:
View attachment 2030713

I can see that process mDNSResponder is preventing sleep sometimes.

What is it? Can I disable it? It looks like that it does DHCP lease renewal every time.

Regards,
Jakub

Looks pretty normal to me, does your router have setting for UAPSD? It may help.

 

[Zest28]

I have an iPad Air 2 which I have left untouched for over a year and the battery still had charge.

No idea what kind of voodoo is involved with that battery.

 

[rwhg]

Do anyone have any news or found a solution on this?

A workaround, no solution yet.

The workaround is pretty simple and involves zero obscure setting changes:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582054366013403143

I spent a lot of time on this over the summer, to the point where I bought another 14” MBP identical to my own so I could do tests using a control machine for 14 days until I had to return the second machine to get my full refund.

What I found is that the problem occurred on both my original machine and the new one (purchased eight months apart) and that many of the suggested setting tweaks make the problem worse, not better.

It’s still an open issue with Apple so far as I know. My case went to the point where log files and lots of other evidence was sent to Engineering. Nothing new since then, that was back in September.

 

[Stu69]

A workaround, no solution yet.

The workaround is pretty simple and involves zero obscure setting changes:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582054366013403143

I spent a lot of time on this over the summer, to the point where I bought another 14” MBP identical to my own so I could do tests using a control machine for 14 days until I had to return the second machine to get my full refund.

What I found is that the problem occurred on both my original machine and the new one (purchased eight months apart) and that many of the suggested setting tweaks make the problem worse, not better.

It’s still an open issue with Apple so far as I know. My case went to the point where log files and lots of other evidence was sent to Engineering. Nothing new since then, that was back in September.

Good stuff, nice workaround, thanks

 

[Stu69]

Good stuff, nice workaround, thanks

So all I'm left with now is how to stop the following.... Any ideas anyone?

2022-11-22 16:29:20 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=11333 wakeAt=2022-11-22 19:38:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-22 16:33:10 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=11102 wakeAt=2022-11-22 19:38:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-22 18:08:01 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=5411 wakeAt=2022-11-22 19:38:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-22 19:39:00 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=29533 wakeAt=2022-11-23 03:51:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-22 21:14:08 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=23824 wakeAt=2022-11-23 03:51:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-22 22:49:01 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=18132 wakeAt=2022-11-23 03:51:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-23 00:24:03 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=12430 wakeAt=2022-11-23 03:51:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-23 01:59:10 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=6722 wakeAt=2022-11-23 03:51:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-23 03:34:02 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=1030 wakeAt=2022-11-23 03:51:13 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.CalendarNotification.EKTravelEngine.periodicRefreshTimer,510"]
2022-11-23 03:52:00 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=15780 wakeAt=2022-11-23 08:15:00 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.calaccessd.alarmEngine.alarm.name,510"]
2022-11-23 05:27:04 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=10075 wakeAt=2022-11-23 08:15:00 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.calaccessd.alarmEngine.alarm.name,510"]
2022-11-23 07:02:14 +0000 Wake Requests [*process=powerd request=UserWake deltaSecs=4365 wakeAt=2022-11-23 08:15:00 info="com.apple.alarm.user-visible-com.apple.calaccessd.alarmEngine.alarm.name,510"]

 

[andrew57385610]

Hey guys. Thank you for your posts in this thread. I've been periodically watched it for months.

I had the same problem that cause my macbook discharge. Now I have 100% battery with more than 24 hours since last charge. Let me tell you what I've done yesterday

1) First one is disable Spotlight indexing:
> sudo mdutil -a -i off

FYI: mdutil – Utility to manage Spotlight indexes.​

Interesting options:​

-i (on|off) Turn indexing on or off.​

-a Apply command to all stores on all volumes.​

​

If you need to enable Spotlight write:​

> sudo mdutil -a -i on​

2) Second one I opened Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy
and I added the Macintosh HD to that list.

Also I have unchecked some search options in first tab, but it didn't bring any result for "battery drain" in the past. (But keep it in mind)

I hope the problem will not get back tomorrow.

 

[ciaoben91]

Hey guys. Thank you for your posts in this thread. I've been periodically watched it for months.

I had the same problem that cause my macbook discharge. Now I have 100% battery with more than 24 hours since last charge. Let me tell you what I've done yesterday

View attachment 2154467
1) First one is disable Spotlight indexing:
> sudo mdutil -a -i off

FYI: mdutil – Utility to manage Spotlight indexes.​

Interesting options:​

-i (on|off) Turn indexing on or off.​

-a Apply command to all stores on all volumes.​

​

If you need to enable Spotlight write:​

> sudo mdutil -a -i on​

2) Second one I opened Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy
and I added the Macintosh HD to that list.

View attachment 2154468


Also I have unchecked some search options in first tab, but it didn't bring any result for "battery drain" in the past. (But keep it in mind)

I hope the problem will not get back tomorrow.

I don't want to rain on your parade but I just tried and in 2 hours I lost 10% 😭

Hope it will continue working for you, even this is not he silver bullet.

I am getting really tired about this thing....

 

[andrew57385610]

Day 2. Yesterday I closed MacBook at 94% and have opened at 91% today.

PS: I didn't turn Wi-Fi off yesterday, today there are a lot of wake requests with it (that may cause a 3% decrease)
But at (Day 1) I didn't turn Wi-Fi off too.

 

[andrew57385610]

I don't want to rain on your parade but I just tried and in 2 hours I lost 10% 😭

Hope it will continue working for you, even this is not he silver bullet.

I am getting really tired about this thing....

My actions were something like this:
1) sudo mdutil -a -i off
2) add Macintosh HD to list
3) kill spotlight processes
4) reboot
5) sudo mdutil -a -i off
5) kill spotlight processes

 

[andrew57385610]

Also I have
1) disabled Screen Time
2) disabled checks in Preferences > Sharing
3) static wallpaper
5) power settings

Prints your settings:​

> pmset -g​

​

where tcpkeepalive is disabled when battery in use (b stands for battery)​

> sudo pmset -b tcpkeepalive 0​

6) "avatarsd"
> launchctl list | grep avatarsd
4604 0 com.apple.avatarsd
(it's status = ZERO)

I may have different status for this service than you because when I had seen a lot of avatarsd in "Wake Requests" list I run next command:
> launchctl bootout gui/501/com.apple.avatarsd

7) I had disabled Handoff for some time but last month it is enabled
8) Turn the Light appearance, Dark Appearance, Automatic Appearance and Dark again. (because it may be a bug in automatic changes)

https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/qj3l9m/_/iatn06n

I use always dark appearance.

 

[Chrysalis99]

I’ve also watched this thread but haven’t had any battery issues and haven’t taken any extra steps to prevent battery drain. I lose 1-2% per day if I don’t use my MacBook M1 Pro Max and it’s been pretty consistent since day 1 over a year ago. Here are my results:

pmset -g log | grep

usage: grep [-abcdDEFGHhIiJLlMmnOopqRSsUVvwXxZz] [-A num] [-B num] [-C[num]]

[-e pattern] [-f file] [--binary-files=value] [--color=when]

[--context[=num]] [--directories=action] [--label] [--line-buffered]

[--null] [pattern] [file ...]

Nothing exciting here and I actually don’t really know what any of it means. lol

I don’t have any excessive battery drain since I purchased this new. 🤷🏼

 

[andrew57385610]

I’ve also watched this thread but haven’t had any battery issues and haven’t taken any extra steps to prevent battery drain. I lose 1-2% per day if I don’t use my MacBook M1 Pro Max and it’s been pretty consistent since day 1 over a year ago. Here are my results:

pmset -g log | grep

usage: grep [-abcdDEFGHhIiJLlMmnOopqRSsUVvwXxZz] [-A num] [-B num] [-C[num]]

[-e pattern] [-f file] [--binary-files=value] [--color=when]

[--context[=num]] [--directories=action] [--label] [--line-buffered]

[--null] [pattern] [file ...]

Nothing exciting here and I actually don’t really know what any of it means. lol

I don’t have any excessive battery drain since I purchased this new. 🤷🏼

You have 16'' inch MacBook

 

[TinyMito]

Also I have
1) disabled Screen Time
2) disabled checks in Preferences > Sharing
3) static wallpaper
5) power settings

Prints your settings:​

> pmset -g​

View attachment 2155028​

​

where tcpkeepalive is disabled when battery in use (b stands for battery)​

> sudo pmset -b tcpkeepalive 0​

6) "avatarsd"
> launchctl list | grep avatarsd
4604 0 com.apple.avatarsd
(it's status = ZERO)

I may have different status for this service than you because when I had seen a lot of avatarsd in "Wake Requests" list I run next command:
> launchctl bootout gui/501/com.apple.avatarsd

7) I had disabled Handoff for some time but last month it is enabled
8) Turn the Light appearance, Dark Appearance, Automatic Appearance and Dark again. (because it may be a bug in automatic changes)

https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/qj3l9m/_/iatn06n

I use always dark appearance.

Come to think of it, this can also relate to the dynamic wallpaper that constantly check time and change the colour. I'm going to switch to a static background image and test it out for the next couple of days.

 

[ciaoben91]

I’ve also watched this thread but haven’t had any battery issues and haven’t taken any extra steps to prevent battery drain. I lose 1-2% per day if I don’t use my MacBook M1 Pro Max and it’s been pretty consistent since day 1 over a year ago. Here are my results:

pmset -g log | grep

usage: grep [-abcdDEFGHhIiJLlMmnOopqRSsUVvwXxZz] [-A num] [-B num] [-C[num]]

[-e pattern] [-f file] [--binary-files=value] [--color=when]

[--context[=num]] [--directories=action] [--label] [--line-buffered]

[--null] [pattern] [file ...]

Nothing exciting here and I actually don’t really know what any of it means. lol

I don’t have any excessive battery drain since I purchased this new. 🤷🏼

You have typed the wrong command, the output is the manual of "grep"

 

[andrew57385610]

Okay... Looks like the problem is still here 😓

 

[xraydoc]

Okay... Looks like the problem is still here 😓
View attachment 2157091

Check the apps you've installed.
3rd party mouse drivers or webcam drivers? What other hardware is or has been connected to your machine?
DisplayLink adapters?
Adobe Creative Cloud cloud sync?

However, I don't think 1-2% per day in sleep is abnormal. The machine will wake periodically to download iCloud updates, iCloud email, etc. How much iCloud email do you receive daily? Is Time Machine on and pointed to a network drive?

 

[rowlands]

I came here because I'm looking for customer information on how long a M1 MacBook Pro (14" & 16") should last. Apple published the specification for the 16" Intel MacBook Pro, but has declined to publish information for MX series.

For Intel 16" maximum standby was 720 hours. If my math is correct, that should be ( 100 / 720 hours ) * battery health. 0.138 * battery health per hour.

It seems to be the best rates here are between 1% ~ 2% per day ( 0.04 ~ 0.125 per hour ) which seems pretty good to me.

I've also seen reports where Apple tech support has said 0.27 per hour is within normal range, but that's literally half what the 16" Intel got.

Just last week a customer and I discovered a new reason for battery drain and that was powerd spamming the logs. In 15 minutes the Mac had generated over 400mb of logs. None of the messages were odd, just how frequently and repeatedly they were posted. Thankfully the customer solved the problem by updating to the latest version of Ventura.

 

[trayloader]

I came here because I'm looking for customer information on how long a M1 MacBook Pro (14" & 16") should last. Apple published the specification for the 16" Intel MacBook Pro, but has declined to publish information for MX series.

For Intel 16" maximum standby was 720 hours. If my math is correct, that should be ( 100 / 720 hours ) * battery health. 0.138 * battery health per hour.

It seems to be the best rates here are between 1% ~ 2% per day ( 0.04 ~ 0.125 per hour ) which seems pretty good to me.

I've also seen reports where Apple tech support has said 0.27 per hour is within normal range, but that's literally half what the 16" Intel got.

Just last week a customer and I discovered a new reason for battery drain and that was powerd spamming the logs. In 15 minutes the Mac had generated over 400mb of logs. None of the messages were odd, just how frequently and repeatedly they were posted. Thankfully the customer solved the problem by updating to the latest version of Ventura.

@rowlands

Can you post the report for the 16“ i9 As per Apples Infos.
Sorry to hijack the thread. I’m having massive problems with Catalina/16“.
I just won’t enter deep sleep and once the battery ran down it simply switches off. Data loss. Stoneage.
I would love to get down to the core of this behavior. Thank you

 

[rowlands]

@rowlands

Can you post the report for the 16“ i9 As per Apples Infos.
Sorry to hijack the thread. I’m having massive problems with Catalina/16“.
I just won’t enter deep sleep and once the battery ran down it simply switches off. Data loss. Stoneage.
I would love to get down to the core of this behavior. Thank you

The Apple specifications are here https://support.apple.com/kb/SP809?locale=en_US

hmmm.... There's several possibilities I can think of that might cause this.
1. As the battery wears out, predicting remaining time becomes even more inaccurate. I've had older MacBooks die when they reach < 20%.

2. System settings prevent sleep and or hibernation, I would say that this is unlikely but I wouldn't rule it out. Open Terminal and enter "pmset -g live", then press enter and post the results here.

3. A rogue process preventing the Mac from sleeping, you can check the activity monitor, and use the column "Prevents Sleep" to see if you have any of these.

4. I've experienced some Apple processes which can prevent sleep to the point the battery drains completely. "Adaptive Standby Wake", attempts to wake my Mac in preparation for me to use. Except, I found if it's awake under this process and the power is disconnected, the Mac stays awake until the battery is completely depleted, no hibernation, nothing, dead, pushing up the daises. Apple say's there's no way to turn off this feature, but I'm not convinced.

For the last 16 months I've been working a Mac app to help diagnose Mac sleeping problems, if you would like to take a look, google "Mac Sleep Aid".