Not really true in all scenarios, because the higher up you go in aperture, the less light you get onto the sensor which equals slower shutter speeds and way more noise.
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iPhone 14 Pro 14 Pro(Max) Camera Downgrade
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I think the camera is a huge letdown; here's some example images from the Toms Guide review but on sliders to make it easy to compare: iPhone vs Pixel
View on a desktop and the difference is night and day.
View on a desktop and the difference is night and day.
I guess it’s really time to look for third party app. Oversharpened, overexposed & with a loss of detail. They should go back to drawing board with that AI.
What the heck did you read? Everything in the 14 pro max is very positive toward the camera's in Tom's Guide.
iPhone 14 Pro Max review
The iPhone 14 Pro Max’s clever Dynamic Island, powerful cameras, always-on display and super long battery life make it the best phone money can buy.
What the heck did you read? Everything in the 14 pro max is very positive toward the camera's in Tom's Guide.
iPhone 14 Pro Max review
The iPhone 14 Pro Max’s clever Dynamic Island, powerful cameras, always-on display and super long battery life make it the best phone money can buy.www.tomsguide.com
The review should have no bearing on your opinion. You can look at the actual photos they posted and make your own mind up.
Did you look at the link? The iPhone is awful in comparison to the Pixel. You need to view the images on a decent monitor to see the true difference.
iPhone vs Pixel
Wish they'd work with Google. Having their AI in an iPhone would be the best phone on the market.
I care about the 14 Max, so I went to the review for that. The photos were phenomenal and Tom's HW stated as such.
If you're happy with the standard of images, that's all that matters. 👍
it's because apple's processing simply isn't on par with google. Apple for some reason likes to darken the shadows on everything, blows out the sky and has bad HDR. The 14 pro cameras are amazing but only if you shoot pro raw.
point and shoot for quick moving objects remains great though, macro shots are as detailed as any you will find but yes the processing from apple seems odd right now.
For people who are serious about photography though should use pro raw and you won't find a better phone to take photos if you go down this route.
Just checked your link and I can see a huge difference between the iPhone 14 P and the Pixel 6 P... iPhone 14 p photos look blurry in comparison or slightly out of focus...
Go check the comparisons in this review of the 14 Max. Most seem to be against the Galaxy S22 Ultra. One is against the Pixel 6. Most of what I saw here were better to me on the 14.
iPhone 14 Pro Max review
The iPhone 14 Pro Max’s clever Dynamic Island, powerful cameras, always-on display and super long battery life make it the best phone money can buy.
Agree, but the S22 is not a great camera in the first place.Go check the comparisons in this review of the 14 Max. Most seem to be against the Galaxy S22 Ultra. One is against the Pixel 6. Most of what I saw here were better to me on the 14.
iPhone 14 Pro Max review
The iPhone 14 Pro Max’s clever Dynamic Island, powerful cameras, always-on display and super long battery life make it the best phone money can buy.
It's the pro vs pixel review that shows it up.
FYI the max and pro have the same camera system.
Yup - I'm aware they have the same camera system. Agree some of the Pixel comparisons don't look great. But the ones where they compare to the S22 look better than the ones they compared the Pixel to. I've taken a couple pictures with my 14 Max and they don't look as bad as the ones in the Pixel comparison. This is where I wish Ken Rockwell would get back to looking at smartphone cameras again.
I don’t pretend to understand the technical aspects of each lens but I do know my 14 Pro Max camera is taking horrible photos at 1x compared to my 13 Pro.
It can’t take macro shots as close as it did before.
It switches to macro miles away from the subject so that you’re in macro mode when you don’t want to be.
All the photos on 1x are really grainy or have weird sharpening artefacts.
It’s horrendous, even in good light. It’s multiple times less good than my 13 pro was.
It can’t take macro shots as close as it did before.
It switches to macro miles away from the subject so that you’re in macro mode when you don’t want to be.
All the photos on 1x are really grainy or have weird sharpening artefacts.
It’s horrendous, even in good light. It’s multiple times less good than my 13 pro was.
Here is another one complaining.
Technically aside, the people in this thread who claim not to have noticed any degradation are either lucky or want notice. I now have enough proof that it‘s not just my phone. Thanks for that!
Technically aside, the people in this thread who claim not to have noticed any degradation are either lucky or want notice. I now have enough proof that it‘s not just my phone. Thanks for that!
People like to justify their purchases. You'll notice plenty of people waxing lyrical about the improvements yet no posts demonstrating that - aside maybe from going through a raw processing workflow. Pretty much all decent photography based reviewers are saying the same; no improvement at all (certainly not the 2x and 3x Apple claim) and in many cases far worse than iPhone 13 and some other phones...
Samples please. I've thoroughly compared the image quality of the 14PM to my iPhone 11 and it's in no way worse. (But, alas, in for example in 1x panoramas it's not better either, at least in good light.)
1, non-ProRAW output has always been ****** on all (less than about 8-9-year-old) iPhones - oversharpened mess. ALWAYS use ProRAW even if you only shoot 12Mpixels.
2, the 48 Mpixel mode, assuming constrasty subject and not extreme corners, indeed delivers VASTLY higher-res images even when just exported to HEIC or JPEG, even in batch mode, with MacOS' built-in, free Preview app.
3, low-light video performance is TONS better than previous iterations. I myself compared it to that of the iP11 (see my thread) and there's simply no contest.
Thanks; ATM, can't watch it (travelling and left my headphones at home, LOL
). Does he use ProRAW? With HEIC/JPG, there's indeed no real 1x improvement at least in good light - that's where I compared my iP14PM to my iP11.
No he's just shooting default like most suers will.Thanks; ATM, can't watch it (travelling and left my headphones at home, LOL
I wonder if Apple will figure out a way to get better JPEGs from the new sensor over time....
Don't hold your breath
In good light, it's the same cr@p as was in the iPhone 11. (I may post some images some time.) Not at all better. I really don't think they'll ever provide some kind of sharpening control. (A slider, for example.) Up until then, just shoot ProRAW.
I realize that this issue is really a side one compared to what is being deeply discussed in this thread...but I wanted to chime in on this one. I think I have a skewed perspective on this. I'm sitting at my desk, and to my left, about eight feet away, is a sliding glass door out onto my deck. And then another ten or so feet away is my bank of bird feeders; add another four feet, say, for the one that is furthest extended. I shoot out there all day from where I'm sitting, as best I can, which, you know, birds sometimes don't stand still, lol. Sometimes, to keep from startling the birds, I will retreat even further away into the shadows of the kitchen.
My phone has never been adequate to the task. I currently have a 13 mini, which has no telephoto, but I do have an added 2x external Sandmarc lens I've tried, and it really doesn't pull things closer enough. If I want to zoom in on a subject after taking the photo, I really have no chance at all of getting anything clean or recognizable. I don't think 3x would be sufficient, but it would be better at least. I currently shoot with my DSLR (nothing that fancy, a Canon Rebel T2i with a kit zoom lens), and I get much much better shots.
Now, this is really a specialized case, sure, and I bet I won't have to look far to find opinions that phone cameras of any kind are really not effective for wildlife photography anyway, at least not without a lot of added equipment. But going through this exercise validates my decision to just get the 13 mini and not worry about missing out yet on what the pro line gives me camera-wise.
The problem all phone cameras have is they are limited in sensor size, both by the amount of real estate needed inside the camera, and by the lenses needed to accommodate a larger sensor. Your Canon has an APS-C size sensor which is about 2.5x the size of the iPhone 14PM. Even though it has 50% more pixels than the 14PM in 12mp mode, the pixels are still substantially larger. This means they can gather more light, provide much greater exposure latitude and shadow detail. And even your kit lens has more elements, an adjustable aperture which provides much more control and quality of image.
What Apple and others have done working with the many limitations of the platform is borderline magic.