There are so many apps that let you control everything in terms of the camera though. Pros would use them rather than sticking to the stock camera app which is mainly designed for average consumer.
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iPhone 14 Pro Max 14pro max. Worst camera of any iPhone.
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There are so many apps that let you control everything in terms of the camera though. Pros would use them rather than sticking to the stock camera app which is mainly designed for average consumer.
I have a 12 Pro and can sympathise with your experiences. Technically it’s a very decent camera, but the processing is so inconsistent that I can no longer rely on it to take natural-looking photographs.
Sadly I learned this the hard way. A month ago I took a holiday to a place I’d never been before, and naively assumed that it was finally time to just take the iPhone for my photography.
For focal lengths I just about got away with it, but my word the processing of the images was bordering on heart-breaking at times.
Buildings that literally look as if they’ve been lasso tooled in Photoshop to separate them from the other points of interest, resulting in an oversaturated sky, overly bright landmark and okay street.
Other times the colours start clipping. Detail is lost through some denoising process. Edges look like they’ve been smeared with Vaseline.
This was an important trip for me and I was so disappointed with my photos after, it made me realise how convenience can’t always trump trusted quality. And to be fair even the most compact camera offers more resolution and detail than a smartphone; if I want to enhance images later I can do that in a lot of software.
Something else I realised was that it’s stupid of me to be paying so much more for the ‘pro’ phone just to get the telephoto lens when, in truth, I don’t even like the resulting images.
Sadly I learned this the hard way. A month ago I took a holiday to a place I’d never been before, and naively assumed that it was finally time to just take the iPhone for my photography.
For focal lengths I just about got away with it, but my word the processing of the images was bordering on heart-breaking at times.
Buildings that literally look as if they’ve been lasso tooled in Photoshop to separate them from the other points of interest, resulting in an oversaturated sky, overly bright landmark and okay street.
Other times the colours start clipping. Detail is lost through some denoising process. Edges look like they’ve been smeared with Vaseline.
This was an important trip for me and I was so disappointed with my photos after, it made me realise how convenience can’t always trump trusted quality. And to be fair even the most compact camera offers more resolution and detail than a smartphone; if I want to enhance images later I can do that in a lot of software.
Something else I realised was that it’s stupid of me to be paying so much more for the ‘pro’ phone just to get the telephoto lens when, in truth, I don’t even like the resulting images.
With ProCamera you can't take pictures in 48MP, but in 16:9. With Halide it's the other way around. Everyone has to decide for himself. I bought ProCamera and had it refunded. I'll stick with the following option for now: Shoot with the Apple camera as ProRaw 36MP and 16:9 and export with Halide from DNG to JPEG. Because Halide expands the edges when exporting, I always end up with a nice 16:9 image as JPEG and without annoying Smart HDR fuss. Hopefully this will get better with the iPhone 15. Zollotech has already noticed the first differences.
Can you post some photo comparisons with the 14PM to your other phones? Or post photos of examples you think the processing was extreme.
I don't mind the processing too much because it does make the photos appear a bit cooler
However, the XS series took Godly normal photos
However, the XS series took Godly normal photos
I feel this way about the iPhone 13 Pro and its camera. It's actually the worst camera in an iPhone that I've had and I've had every iPhone since the 3GS. I recently started to contemplate getting an iPhone Mini and buying a Fujifilm X100V as my camera. I am just over the iPhone camera.
My thoughts were exactly the same after I got the iPhone X. Ultimately, the iPhone X is what led me back to using proper cameras for good photos.
iPhones are great for “on the fly photos,” but if you want anything of great quality, a real camera with some good glass is your best bet.
Don’t get me wrong, iPhones can still take some pretty good pictures. But I never count on the final product meeting my expectations.
iPhones are great for “on the fly photos,” but if you want anything of great quality, a real camera with some good glass is your best bet.
Don’t get me wrong, iPhones can still take some pretty good pictures. But I never count on the final product meeting my expectations.
I certainly disagree, when used with the iOS 17. They’ve mitigated a lot of the ugly over-processing.
As to bar codes scans them just fine. I can be sitting in my living room across from my tv and easily scan bar codes-even at an angle.
So, that doesn’t fly.
I hope are correct that apple has toned down the overprocessing with ios 17
I find it funny that the ”Pro” camera has no ”pro” options at all. Point and shoot.
Apple be like: ”Nah, nah, we’re the Pro here, not you. Now look, this is the way it should look, trust the Pro.”
Apple be like: ”Nah, nah, we’re the Pro here, not you. Now look, this is the way it should look, trust the Pro.”
Surely everyone knows ‘pro’ is just a bollocks marketing term. What even is a ‘professional’ phone? My god the naming is awful. Hope it goes away.
Yes I understand that and my comments in this whole thread are not about wanting to do "professional" work with the iPhone because of course using other apps with more control along with RAW and edits will get you there, but I am talking about the change that Apple has been making that is supposed to help the image quality that it has been doing for years. There is a reason the general agreement is somewhere between the iPhone X and the 12 the images straight out of camera were great, and I think the introduction of the Smart HDR where people/subjects are automatically edited now and depending on the lighting condition (in my experience low light and really bright sunny days) it just fails and there is no way to turn off Smart HDR, so a feature that was added that was supposed to help my photos doesn't always work, I can't turn it off in settings so I am supposed to pay for a 3rd party that can? when it previously wasn't a problem
Yeah that does sound annoying. Mine doesn't do that - its been a great upgrade for me from previous iPhone cameras, maybe the best update ever. Wonder if there's something wrong with your handset in particular
Yes the scanning codes is the thing i noticed that is awful. I finally figured out if you hold it way further from the code than you would expect, it works better.
It is a known issue. Apple fixed later in devops code to engage wide angle camera but the end result depends if your scanner actually shifted to using the wide angle camera. So a third party problem at this moment like ups, sams coub scanners.
I remember purchasing a 13 pro after having an iPhone X and I was so disappointed. All my zoomed pictures looked like they’d been passed through the Adobe CS6 mosaic filter. I prefer the noise! Post processing really ruins the photos, imo. I’ll take a noisy photo over an over-processed one any day
It is indeed bollocks. Have a look at the plastic drink bottle section of almost any supermarket and there’s sure to be one with the Pro moniker. I saw one last week which was black and orange, suffixed with Pro. Perplexingly inane.
‘Egg Flipper Pro; available for a limited time in matt black and featuring precision flipping capability. It’s our best egg flipper yet.’
Mate, it’s just a ****ing spatula 😂
iPhone 14 Pro vs Nokia 808
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgILGqXOhwU
Sure the iPhone does better at night and video, but everything else the Nokia looks much more natural and pleasing. The iPhone's "detail" is obviously just over-sharpening, and the touted dynamic range is bordering on bad HDR.
IMO, the only modern smartphone that takes pleasing photos is Sony's Xperia line:
amateurphotographer.com
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgILGqXOhwU
Sure the iPhone does better at night and video, but everything else the Nokia looks much more natural and pleasing. The iPhone's "detail" is obviously just over-sharpening, and the touted dynamic range is bordering on bad HDR.
IMO, the only modern smartphone that takes pleasing photos is Sony's Xperia line:
Sony Xperia 1 V Review - 5th time lucky?
Promising image quality on par with full-frame cameras, Amy Davies finds out if the Sony Xperia 1 V has done enough to silence the critics.
amateurphotographer.com
+1 with an exclamation! Funny that I stumbled on this thread now. I've had a 14 Pro (not Max) since it dropped last September and have spent the last year thinking that the processing on my 13 Pro was SO much better. Like, not even close. There are times when colors shown in a photograph don't even exist in the scene I just shot. Now this thread makes it clear that it's not just me who thinks the 14 Pro processing was a big step backward and basically sucks. How does Apple spend kajillions on R&D for each new iPhone--especially focusing on camera improvements--and end up with a worse result? SMH. Really hoping the 15 Pro remedies the situation.
Again please post examples of the photos so we can review as a group rather than read endless complaints
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