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All good points. Thanks for clarifying. My understanding is that the pro has a 3200ish battery capacity and the 13 pm has 4300ish. That means a 1100ish capacity improvement. 1100 is a 34% increase over the 3200 in the 15 pro. I think that math checks out, but feel free to correct me. Math is not my field.
The math is because "direction" matters.

iPhone 13 Pro Max -> iPhone 15 Pro
4300mAh/3200mAh = 1.34 (+34% battery capacity)
9h/6h = 1.5 (+50% of my usage time)

vs iPhone 15 Pro -> iPhone 13 Pro Max
3200mAh/4300mAh = 0.74 (-26% battery capacity)
6h/9h = 0.67 (-33% usage time)

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The math is because "direction" matters.

iPhone 13 Pro Max -> iPhone 15 Pro
4300mAh/3200mAh = 1.34 (+34% battery capacity)
9h/6h = 1.5 (+50% of my usage time)

vs iPhone 15 Pro -> iPhone 13 Pro Max
3200mAh/4300mAh = 0.74 (-26% battery capacity)
6h/9h = 0.67 (-33% usage time)


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I see. Thanks for clarifying. Very helpful.
 
The battery on my 15 pro is HORRIBLE compared to my two years old 13pro which my girlfriend still uses. She outruns me almost every day and she is a very heavy instagram user. The battery on the 13 pro is at only 87% capacity and still is so much better. I really dislike the 15 pro and wish I had gotten the max this time. Now I'm stuck on a two year financing deal with Apple - I really wish I could upgrade again this year as I'm almost sure theyre gonna fix it.
 
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Come from a release day iPhone 12 to a release day iPhone 15 Pro and for me battery life is good. I can run it down in 12 hours or so if I hit it hard, but today it's been off charge since 05:56 and at 18:11 I'm still at 67% (admittedly with little use and being on strong wifi all day). 100% capacity and 168 cycles.

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To be honest it doesn't look like a solid battery. Yes 12h but mostly having your iPhone on table or inside your pocket. You were barely using your phone and still you still lost 33%. If you touch it for a while you will lose even more. Yes there was some background sound activities but let's face it. Not that much. To me it looks the same as mine Pro. On mobile data max SoT is 3h.
 
Personally after the 17.4 update my battery has improved
I hope for the same.

The worst part is that after clean instal I could get 9-11h on Wifi. After 2-3 weeks again only 6h on same wifi network. On mobile data? Half of wifi time. Maybe even less. That means 2-3h sot right now. Unusable. Someone can say "you found solution" maybe but I am tired of erase and all processes I need to do after that. I've done it 4 times on my 15 Pro. Ive never done that so often. Today I tried "reset network settings". Because mobile data and Wifi were considered as an issue I hope it will help.
If not I will try reseting all settings. It deletes Apple Pay cards (I hate that) but it is still better option that clean install.

Anyway. Clearly something is not right. My wife's 14 plus also loses battery to fast but she doesn't see this. So I think iOS 17 is full of bug and worst battery performance in Apple's history. I know I know. After every update people say things like that. Sure but mostly one clean instal or hard reset (which people don't try before posting) resolve the problem. Not this time. As I said. I've done clean install 4 times and it helps only for a while. Why? I asked Apple to check logs. Maybe there is something in the background which we don't see.
 
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Been using the iPhone 15 pro for a few months, after upgrading from the 13 pro. I'm not at all impressed by the battery life; it's noticeably worse than it was on my 13 pro. Has anyone else experienced this after doing a similar upgrade?

Yes, battery life on my 13PM was really good. I would end the day with 50% battery left and could make it almost through two days.

Then I went to the 14PM which had drastically shorter battery life, and now the 15PM which didn't really improve on the 14PM.

I'll be down to 15-20% by bed time. Absolutely no way I'm making it through two days. Not sure why battery life has gone backwards like this.

I also note this 15PM gets a lot hotter than my 13PM used to. Seemingly for no reason. Again, should the new phone be worse in this regard?
 
Yes, battery life on my 13PM was really good. I would end the day with 50% battery left and could make it almost through two days.

Then I went to the 14PM which had drastically shorter battery life, and now the 15PM which didn't really improve on the 14PM.

I'll be down to 15-20% by bed time. Absolutely no way I'm making it through two days. Not sure why battery life has gone backwards like this.

I also note this 15PM gets a lot hotter than my 13PM used to. Seemingly for no reason. Again, should the new phone be worse in this regard?
it is definitely worse in regard of the heat, though I have to say this was mostly a problem that I noticed during the early weeks, havent had it in a while. The Battery also seems to have become "normal", or maybe I just got used to it being empty by 8pm :D
 
Mine has been ok, not great but fine.

However since 18.3 and all this frankly useless apple intelligence stuff, it’s been horrific. Phone gets really hot for some sites in safari. This has not happened since getting it on launch day.
 
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Mine has been ok, not great but fine.

However since 18.3 and all this frankly useless apple intelligence stuff, it’s been horrific. Phone gets really hot for some sites in safari. This has not happened since getting it on launch day.
Thank God I stayed on iOS 17.7 the moral of the story is don't upgrade unless you absolutely have to
 
I am surprised by these numbers even more than I was earlier.

Apple rates the 15 Pro for 23 hours of SOT. How in the world were people getting 5 on iOS 17? I don’t think I’d get 5 on anything better than an iPhone 6s (on original iOS versions) with moderately heavy cellular use.

How heavily do y’all use your iPhones? 6-7 hours sounds insanely low. How high is your brightness? What do you use it for? I’ll never not be surprised by people’s ability to have poor battery life with modern iPhones when my battery life has been absurdly good on original iOS versions since the 7 Plus.
 
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I find my battery life varies day to day. I almost always get through a normal day (taken off charge at 06:00, stream radio while riding a bike for 35 minutes, normal work day, home around 18:00, bed around 22:00), sometimes I have more charge left, if I've used it heavily during the day I might need to top up in the evening. I've stopped sync'ing my work Exchange calendar to Calendar on the phone and instead subscribe to a read-only ICS stream from it, before I did this a few months ago I found my battery dropped significantly faster and Calendar was highlighted as the culprit. Current stats are 88% capacity, 637 cycles, manufactured date July 2023, first use was launch day.
 
I find my battery life varies day to day. I almost always get through a normal day (taken off charge at 06:00, stream radio while riding a bike for 35 minutes, normal work day, home around 18:00, bed around 22:00), sometimes I have more charge left, if I've used it heavily during the day I might need to top up in the evening. I've stopped sync'ing my work Exchange calendar to Calendar on the phone and instead subscribe to a read-only ICS stream from it, before I did this a few months ago I found my battery dropped significantly faster and Calendar was highlighted as the culprit. Current stats are 88% capacity, 637 cycles, manufactured date July 2023, first use was launch day.
Constant push has always been a battery killer. Anything that stays active constantly on the background pretty much always needs to be disabled.

Apps that constantly use location will kill battery life on the background, even if you aren’t using the iPhone.

I pretty much have nothing like that enabled. Every location service for apps is either disabled or enabled “while using the app”. Mail is set to fetch manually. I think those two settings are key, alongside a third: brightness.

But since most are social media users (with video-heavy apps) those seem to eat through all of the battery improvements since the iPhone 5s.

I assume most also use constant high brightness.

The combo of constant push + location services + video-heavy social media + cellular + high brightness is pretty much guaranteed to kill any iOS device. My 6s on iOS 9 or 10 gets 7-8.5 hours of SOT. My Xʀ on iOS 12 gets 16-18 hours. My 16 Plus gets 27 hours. People have killed the 6s in 4-5, the Xʀ in 7-8, and the 16 Plus in less than 10. The improvement just isn’t there for many.

I have even tested my 16 Plus with 5G all day, heavy camera use, and outdoor (high) brightness and I’ve gotten about 15-17 hours. That’s why I’m surprised. The inefficiency has to be absolute to end the day with a modern iPhone (any of them I reckon) with something like 5-10%. Or you have to use constant syncing like you experienced.
 
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