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AppleChainLink

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Some people have no idea what ‘disaster‘ means. They have such comfortable lives they lose their minds even if a fly comes in the window. They have no context what a real disaster looks like.
Cope. Did you save your money to buy one of these expensive laptops? Do you even own one? Why must you defend Apple when a lot of us are having issues after having paid so much for a product. Jesus.
 

ascender

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But with your limited time in using it. What is your experience using it?? Apart of the GPU defects ??
Its a brilliant laptop - incredibly powerful with an amazing screen and the design has grown on me, I think it looks much better in the flesh than in the press coverage.
 
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white7561

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Its a brilliant laptop - incredibly powerful with an amazing screen and the design has grown on me, I think it looks much better in the flesh than in the press coverage.
Yeah. I can't wait to try 4k HDR movies on there though. Gonna be awesome I think!!
 

War833

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FYI - I now see this on my 16" MBP for the first time after changing to a custom dynamic wallpaper. I've had 0 other issues that could be GPU-related, so I'm not convinced yet that it's a hardware issue.
 
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dancingonthefence

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Hi,

I'm getting a strange graphical distortion when I switch between desktops/spaces at the top right. It only happens on the laptop screen and doesn't seem to matter if the external monitor is connected or not.

Its not that noticeable depending on the wallpaper, so is really noticeable on the pattern from the Shining.

I'm running 12.0.1 on an M1 Pro Max machine, so was wondering if anybody else is seeing similar before I call Apple?


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Wondering did you upgarde to latest system?
 

ascender

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FYI - I now see this on my 16" MBP for the first time after changing to a custom dynamic wallpaper. I've had 0 other issues that could be GPU-related, so I'm not convinced yet that it's a hardware issue.
That's very strange. Spookily enough, the one time I saw something like this was on a launch-day 15" MBP back in 2016 - that one did fail the hardware diagnostics but the problem was much more pronounced.

I'm not 100% on if it was GPU-related or not, but with me being away this week I couldn't take the risk and Apple really wanted the machine back to see it for some reason.

Wondering did you upgarde to latest system?
Yes, we did a clean install and upgraded to 12.0.1
 

danielle.sopalski

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Nov 25, 2021
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Hi there. Made this account just to post. I'm experiencing this intermittently on my 14" M1 Pro. 10CPU/16GPU/16GB. It's really the exact same artifacting in the same portion of the screen under the exact same circumstance -- only when switching between desktops. I can actually keep my fingers on the trackpad when switching desktops and drag the artifact back and forth along with the desktops themselves.

I notice it's always directly below the menu bar and never encroaches on the menu bar itself. It's always below the menu icons on the righthand side of the menu bar. Given some time, it will expand downward, but so far I haven't seen it expand in width.

Logging out and back in fixes the problem. Today if it happens again, I'm going to try switching users without logging out. This is a really peculiar issue, and I'm not convinced it's a hardware problem, but I'm also not convinced it's not.

I'm not quite ready to take my brand new MacBook in for replacement, because that seems like a hassle! (I'm lazy.)

Edit: I forgot to mention that I'm also on 12.0.1.
 
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danielle.sopalski

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Hi guys! The issue came back, and I've taken some notes about it this time. Here are my observations.

- Artifact scales with display scaling.
- Does not resolve by disabling ProMotion.
- Began at the start of a Microsoft Teams video call.
- 11.31GB memory used. 10-20% GPU. ~10% CPU.
- Switching to a different user resolves the issue with no decrease in memory usage. Switching back to the affected user brings the issue back.
- Ending the Teams call did not resolve the issue.
- Quitting Microsoft Teams immediately resolved the issue.

Ascender, do you use MS Teams? I'm not convinced Teams or Chromium is the real cause of the issue, but it is an interesting observation.
 
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ascender

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Hi guys! The issue came back, and I've taken some notes about it this time. Here are my observations.

- Artifact scales with display scaling.
- Does not resolve by disabling ProMotion.
- Began at the start of a Microsoft Teams video call.
- 11.31GB memory used. 10-20% GPU. ~10% CPU.
- Switching to a different user resolves the issue with no decrease in memory usage. Switching back to the affected user brings the issue back.
- Ending the Teams call did not resolve the issue.
- Quitting Microsoft Teams immediately resolved the issue.

Ascender, do you use MS Teams? I'm not convinced Teams or Chromium is the real cause of the issue, but it is an interesting observation.
Yes, unfortunately I have to use Teams every day!

I've got a 16" M1 Pro now and the issue hasn't occurred on this one.

Like you, logging out or rebooting seemed to make it go away but it would quickly come back. I didn't try it with a different use account though as Apple were keen to get the laptop back.
 

danielle.sopalski

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Nov 25, 2021
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Thanks for your reply! Interesting. I'll keep an eye on mine and see if it only happens when Teams is running, or if I can get it to happen without. I have two accounts on my Mac. One is for work and usually has Teams running, and the other is for home and never does. So far, I've never seen the artifact on my home account.

I did notice that the second time the artifact appeared today, a background process that I assume was from VS Code called "Code Helper" was the top GPU load at about 6%.

A moment of silence for everyone on this Earth who has to use Teams on a daily basis. You have my empathy.
 

white7561

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Hi guys! The issue came back, and I've taken some notes about it this time. Here are my observations.

- Artifact scales with display scaling.
- Does not resolve by disabling ProMotion.
- Began at the start of a Microsoft Teams video call.
- 11.31GB memory used. 10-20% GPU. ~10% CPU.
- Switching to a different user resolves the issue with no decrease in memory usage. Switching back to the affected user brings the issue back.
- Ending the Teams call did not resolve the issue.
- Quitting Microsoft Teams immediately resolved the issue.

Ascender, do you use MS Teams? I'm not convinced Teams or Chromium is the real cause of the issue, but it is an interesting observation.
Interesting. I've been using Microsoft Teams on my 16" M1 Pro without any problems. Daily uses of video calls etc and no problems. Vscode also doesn't cause any problems.

Though, I am using 12.1 beta 1 . So it might be a stable bug?
 

danielle.sopalski

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Nov 25, 2021
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White7561, that is interesting! I'd love it if they fixed whatever this is in 12.1. That said, I'm sure that if absolutely everyone in the world using MS Teams experienced this bug, there would be a lot more Google results for it than just this thread.

I still haven't been able to make the artifact happen without Teams running though, even when playing four 4k videos in Firefox simultaneously to push CPU, GPU, and memory load to similar levels as a Teams conference call. I'm still suspicious that VS Code might be able to do it though -- maybe an Electron thing? -- and I'm going to be using that a lot today, so I'll keep paying attention.
 
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white7561

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White7561, that is interesting! I'd love it if they fixed whatever this is in 12.1. That said, I'm sure that if absolutely everyone in the world using MS Teams experienced this bug, there would be a lot more Google results for it than just this thread.

I still haven't been able to make the artifact happen without Teams running though, even when playing four 4k videos in Firefox simultaneously to push CPU, GPU, and memory load to similar levels as a Teams conference call. I'm still suspicious that VS Code might be able to do it though -- maybe an Electron thing? -- and I'm going to be using that a lot today, so I'll keep paying attention.
Welp. Hopefully it's all fixed when the 12.1 stable comes
 

profcutter

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I was in Beirut when Israel bombed the city and lived in Tbilisi during the post-Soviet days of war, assassination and no electricity. The past 4 years in America have been completely normal and benign.
Which time in Beirut? I was in Palestine the last time Israel bombed Beirut.
 

ascender

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And its now started on my replacement M1 Pro. So presumably its driver-based but I don't get why it just suddenly starts happening after a number of days/weeks of use?
 

danielle.sopalski

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Nov 25, 2021
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Interesting! I'm not happy to hear that your new M1 Pro has started displaying the artifact, but I am happy to see some more suggestion that it's not a hardware problem -- or at least not a hardware fault.

For what it's worth, I still haven't been able to make this glitch appear without Teams running, even under heavy workloads. With Teams running, it's 100% certain to happen within an hour or so, sometimes less. I kinda wonder if it has something to do with Teams' custom notifications. They appear around the same area where I see the glitch.
 

white7561

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Interesting! I'm not happy to hear that your new M1 Pro has started displaying the artifact, but I am happy to see some more suggestion that it's not a hardware problem -- or at least not a hardware fault.

For what it's worth, I still haven't been able to make this glitch appear without Teams running, even under heavy workloads. With Teams running, it's 100% certain to happen within an hour or so, sometimes less. I kinda wonder if it has something to do with Teams' custom notifications. They appear around the same area where I see the glitch.
Interesting. I use the native Mac notifications and don't have this problem. It could be that
 

synergize

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Yes this looks like a defect for sure. Why do you think the MacBook screens are a disaster? My 14' display is superb overall.
It seems like most, if not all the problems are with the 16" MacBooks, my 14" is superb in every way possible.
 

starry99

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About a year on, faced exactly the same issue on my MBP M1 Max 64GB.

The culprit is in-fact MS Teams and the issue hasn't been resolved as of this comment. This happens when the notification-style is set as "Teams built-in". You can head over to the MS Teams settings > Notifications and change the style to native Mac banners to circumvent this.

It's sad to see Teams let such bugs remain unsquashed for over a year.
Honestly made me scared that my machine was already showing artifacts.
 
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