1st Mac maybe last

[GGJstudios]

I still don't understand why you think it's important if call it a virus or a trojan. They are both harmful and that's why I mentioned the article.

A virus can infect and spread without any action on the part of the user. A trojan requires user action of some sort before it can infect. Knowing which is which affects what defense is required.

 

[NunoBerny]

A virus can infect and spread without any action on the part of the user. A trojan requires user action of some sort before it can infect. Knowing which is which affects what defense is required.

I understand that. Many (the majority?) of users will be infected anyway.
But that's not the point: the feeling that the Mac is immune is something that exists. And that is more dangerous ("oh, I have a Mac and therefore I don't need to take precautions").
That's what I was trying to alert to.

 

[GGJstudios]

I understand that. Many (the majority?) of users will be infected anyway.
But that's not the point: the feeling that the Mac is immune is something that exists. And that is more dangerous ("oh, I have a Mac and therefore I don't need to take precautions").
That's what I was trying to alert to.

No one who is informed is claiming that Mac OS X, or any OS, is immune to malware, nor is anyone saying "I have a Mac and therefore I don't need to take precautions". The fact is, if you practice safe computing on a Mac, you don't need to worry about malware. Of course, not everyone will practice safe computing. Having antivirus software installed is a poor substitute for safe computing, as it won't protect you from all malware.

 

[Lynn Belvedere]

I believe they installed only 2 gb so to keep the price down (Some hate sticker shock you know) as do some other manufactures for same reason, and we the user will install more later. This is no biggie in my opinion since many have some knowledge of ram and computer OS needs.

Its not a big deal and those that complain about putting in additional 2 gb or more ram are just beating a dead horse and acting like its the end of the world. Its not, so just install more ram if needed and be done with this child like ranting. Other manufactures do the same or are you a noob and need some hand holding ?

Read what you wrote and listen to how childish (your words) it sounds.

First you mention "sticker shock" as if adding 2GB of ram is an expensive proposition. Newsflash: this is 2012 and ram is dirt cheap. Apple made the concious decision to be ultra-cheap and released an inferior product (borderline unusable) to add maybe $15 in profit (at best).

Secondly, you are arguing that Apple releasing a shoddy second-rate product is "no big deal"? Ha. I guess you will defend anything Apple does. What kind of user defends inferior hardware by saying "Oh, you can buy it yourself". Going by that ridiculous logic, the mini should have shipped with a 40GB HDD and 512MB of RAM... you know, to avoid "sticker shock".

 

[marzer]

I initially ran Windows in VMWare - largely because I was homesick - I even would uselessly reinstall Windows in the emulator just for fun, 'cause after so long, how can you give it up? Almost all I did in Windows was continually reinstall it.

Hah! This made me laugh. After loading Windows in a VM (Virtualbox) thinking it'd be handy for something, all I ever did was open it occasionally to run AV and system updates. Eventually I just deleted it.

 

[philipma1957]

Read what you wrote and listen to how childish (your words) it sounds.

First you mention "sticker shock" as if adding 2GB of ram is an expensive proposition. Newsflash: this is 2012 and ram is dirt cheap. Apple made the concious decision to be ultra-cheap and released an inferior product (borderline unusable) to add maybe $15 in profit (at best).

Secondly, you are arguing that Apple releasing a shoddy second-rate product is "no big deal"? Ha. I guess you will defend anything Apple does. What kind of user defends inferior hardware by saying "Oh, you can buy it yourself". Going by that ridiculous logic, the mini should have shipped with a 40GB HDD and 512MB of RAM... you know, to avoid "sticker shock".

I gave you a plus as apple's decision to release the 2011 base mini with 2gb ram was based on a no risk attitude on their part. They did not want to take on the risk of ram prices. You are missing the point that you the consumer scored on their decision.

Right now I can buy 16gb of ram for my mini for 100 bucks. This is a huge score for me as i don't have to eat the cost of 4gb oem ram in the form of a pair of 2gb sticks.

Apple decided to make all ram easy to access (except mac book air) and they sold most units with a bare minimum of ram as a possibility. This turned out to be a huge score for the consumer. 8gb sticks went from 600 each to 60 each. 4gb sticks are under 20 bucks. Think of it this way if ram factories had flooded and ram went from 40 for a pair of 4gb sticks to 160 for the same pair you would be cursing. The 2011 base mac mini cost 569 at amazon 8gb ram is under 40 so for 609 You have a good machine.


If this was the old white design with hard to change ram I would agree that apple was wrong. I only wish apple had sold all the mac mini's with only a pair of 1gb sticks of ram. (with a lower sticker price) It would have been even better for aftermarket modding

 

[tshrimp]

Yes. It is a bit of a drill, but this page shows you how to capture the install image. Once you have done that you can use the instructions here to make a USB key installer from the image. You won't be able to grab Lion from the app store since you did not buy it from the app store, so you will need to use the process I linked.

Don't let the rudeness of some in this thread put you off. It seems some are just here to take shots at others who are less knowledgeable.

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Yes, we all know what ignorant means, and it is still rude to call someone ignorant when they ask a question.

Weaselboy,

Thanks for this post. I was able to create my own Lion install thumb drive. It was very easy thanks to the links you posted.

 

[Weaselboy]

Weaselboy,

Thanks for this post. I was able to create my own Lion install thumb drive. It was very easy thanks to the links you posted.

Glad it worked out for you.