1st Phablet with Gorilla Glass 4: Note 4

[bmt134]

Hard to huff and puff when anything Apple does is downplayed by everyone.

The iPhone could hover and have jet thrusters and people would "meh"

You are in the wrong subforum.

 

[Tsepz]

It's not a software with millions of lines of code that needs extensive beta testing to find elusive bugs, it's a piece of glass. A new iteration of a product that's been around for years. How can you even apply the term "beta testing" to something like this?

To desperately try turn good news into something bad. He is not even using logic, just because Samsung are the first it is now a 'Beta Test', when this sort of product has to be tested thoroughly in-house by its manufacturer.

I have read all kinds of nonsense around here, but he has taken the cake and running with it. so pathetic.
The reality distortion field is strong in him.

 

[Fernandez21]

The only thing I'm curious about is why they didn't advertise it when launched, you would think that it being the first would make it a headline feature.

 

[skratch77]

The only thing I'm curious about is why they didn't advertise it when launched, you would think that it being the first would make it a headline feature.

Probably because apple had the gt deal working on with sapphire

 

[Tsepz]

The only thing I'm curious about is why they didn't advertise it when launched, you would think that it being the first would make it a headline feature.

Corning announced GG4 at the end of November, so Samsung were not allowed to mention it as the Galaxy Alpha and Note 4 were launched before that.

 

[Fernandez21]

Corning announced GG4 at the end of November, so Samsung were not allowed to mention it as the Galaxy Alpha and Note 4 were launched before that.

That sort of makes sense, though then why didn't corning announce it earlier if it was ready to be part of the alpha and note line. Only thing I can think of is they didn't want to "offend" other OEMS and seem like they're playing favorites or striking up exclusive deals, so they kept quiet about it.

Also makes me wonder about the curved glass on the iPhone, as I remember Samsung talking about the 2.5 curved glass and it being mentioned that it was also being use by apple in the iPhone. Is the curved glass part of gorilla glass 4?

 

[Wrathwitch]

Corning manufactures a new Gorilla Glass

Corning tests the integrity/performance of this Glass internally

To avoid massive recall/backlash/legal issues it limits the availability of the glass to only a few handsets.

Call it what you will this is a massive field test being conducted by using the Note 4 and the Alpha as its test device . If Corning was so confidant in the initial release of this product it would have been available on more handsets right from the beginning.

It's more of a "let's see how this performs in the hands of thousands of every day people before we release it to millions".

http://www.corning.com/news_center/news_releases/2014/2014120902.aspx

"CORNING, N.Y., December 09, 2014 – Corning Incorporated (NYSE: GLW) announced today that Samsung has chosen 0.4 mm thick Corning® Gorilla® Glass 4 as the discrete touch cover glass in their sleekest smartphone ever – the Galaxy ALPHA."

“Corning spends a great deal of time collaborating with Samsung to recommend solutions that will continually improve their device design and performance,” said Cliff Hund, general manager and president, Corning East Asia. “Device makers want to go thinner without sacrificing damage resistance. Samsung is not only meeting these requirements, but is on the cutting edge of smartphone design. The Galaxy ALPHA is the culmination of our close collaboration with Samsung.”

Notice how this article doesn't mention anyone else other than Samsung?

-Is it because no other manufacturer cares for stronger glass? Highly unlikely
-Is it because other manufacturers want to wait and see what happens with Samsung first before they commit? More likely, hence going back to my point...GUINEA PIG.

Firstly, you make it sound like a product from CORNING beta testing something is a BAD thing. It's not like they are "Joe's discount glass emporium" they have an excellent reputation and their development and delivery of their products have an excellent track record. Your statement is almost as .....how shall I word this.....? As redundant... as someone saying that apple is releasing an entire new product *cough iPhone 1st gen* to the masses to use us as guinea pigs for their product....(don't make me point out the similarities between this statement and yours).


Corning doesn't need to blow their horn, their reputation is already set, and if they didn't think that their product stood a good chance of withstanding general use on a larger mobile device, they wouldn't have released the product.

 

[nfl46]

I'd still get a glass shield

This is exactly what I said. I still don't feel comfortable with a $500+ device in my pocket full of keys.

 

[MRU]

This is exactly what I said. I still don't feel comfortable with a $500+ device in my pocket full of keys.

Yeah as much as its nice to know my Alpha has gorilla glass 4 - I still have a spigen glas.tr on there and it's not coming off Better to be safe than sorry, and I'd do the same even if the iPhone had sapphire glass too.

 

[cdmoore74]

This is exactly what I said. I still don't feel comfortable with a $500+ device in my pocket full of keys.

I had the same thought process but I'm starting to read that a Glass/plastic protectors may interfere with how Gear VR focus. Still not 100% confirmed but I might be taking off my glass screen protector once I have Gear VR for my Note 4 . I haven't rocked a naked screen on any of my devices for years so I'm very glad to hear that my phone already has the latest glass technology.

 

[Abazigal]

Congrats. Samsung phones are going to need it. I have seen some of my colleagues drop their note phones in the ground and it's not a pretty sight.

 

[The Game 161]

Congrats. Samsung phones are going to need it. I have seen some of my colleagues drop their note phones in the ground and it's not a pretty sight.

Funny most drop tests with the note seem to cause little damage compared to other flagships but there is a reason why cases were created

 

[SecITGuy]

Funny most drop tests with the note seem to cause little damage compared to other flagships but there is a reason why cases were created

Most reviews i have seen list the Note 4 as pretty easy to hold onto compared to most other smartphones. The plastic back helps a lot.

 

[The Game 161]

Most reviews i have seen list the Note 4 as pretty easy to hold onto compared to most other smartphones. The plastic back helps a lot.

It's certainly not slippy. You can hold it even in one hand without the fear of dropping it. So from that point of view its a bonus

 

[Tsepz]

I use my Note 4 one handed about 95% of the time now, the plastic faux leather back cover makes it very grippy and comfortable to use

 

[Dontazemebro]

Still wouldn't deter me from dropping a glass screen protector on. I don't care what version gorilla glass is on, every phone I've had with gorilla glass that didn't have a screen protector got scratched.

 

[spinedoc77]

Never had an issue with scratches, all the way back to iPhone 3g's, Note 2's, etc. Heck I never even got scratches on phones like Pocket PC's with the plastic screens. I always put it in face down in my pocket, never have anything in the pocket with them, and am just careful overall. I've always carried my phones naked on the screen, although if it's an iPhone I'll usually put on a body protector.

Sapphire would have been nice though. My watch has a sapphire face and I've abused the hell out of it for 15 years, did tons of construction work with it, lifted weights with it, I can't count the number of times I've scraped it up against a wall or banged it on something. After 15 years it's pristine, I'd love to have that kind of peace of mind with a cell phone.

 

[Abazigal]

Funny most drop tests with the note seem to cause little damage compared to other flagships but there is a reason why cases were created

My colleague dropped her Note 2 phone onto the ground, and it ended up with a large and unsightly spider-web of cracks that extended from the corner to about half the screen. This was with a case on.

Another of my colleague had his Note 2's screen cracked mysteriously (as in he found a crack across the entire diagonal of the screen one fine day and had no idea how it came about).

I drop my 5s on the ground (with no case), it lands on its side, bounces right off the ground and comes to a rest with little more than a minor nick on the side.

This is anecdotal, and also the main reason why I don't give much credence to drop tests (it's just too variable; what makes you think I will drop my phone that way?). But from what I see, I suspect that thin bezel of the Note phones affords less protection and makes the screen more prone to cracking due to impact from the corners. It will be good if Gorilla Glass 4 can help ameliorate that.

 

[Fanaticalism]

Ok let's give this a rest. Let's see what happens in coming months.

Here's what happens... You drop the phone, crack the screen and get a replacement just like any other phone. Difference with this iteration? It's lighter.

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Congrats. Samsung phones are going to need it. I have seen some of my colleagues drop their note phones in the ground and it's not a pretty sight.

Just like any other phone...

 

[Technarchy]

This is exactly what I said. I still don't feel comfortable with a $500+ device in my pocket full of keys.

Glass is glass. All it takes is one piece of sediment on your finger tips or in your pocket, and bad luck and your beautiful display is hosed.

Why risk it, especially with glass screen protectors being abundant and fairly cheap.

 

[stridemat]

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[spinedoc77]

I dropped my Note 4 a lot, lol. I got these new shorts that had very shallow pockets and it just kept slipping out. I did find that the metal sides were dented pretty easily, but otherwise it's a pretty tough phone. Oh also the chrome portion of the surround scratches very easily, I have a ton of scratches especially where the charging connector goes.

 

[mKTank]

I dropped my Note 4 a lot, lol. I got these new shorts that had very shallow pockets and it just kept slipping out. I did find that the metal sides were dented pretty easily, but otherwise it's a pretty tough phone. Oh also the chrome portion of the surround scratches very easily, I have a ton of scratches especially where the charging connector goes.

Yup, I scratched at the chamfered edges with my nail fairly gently to test how durable they are and now I have a permanent, nail-shaped scratch in the frame. They used a fairly cheap metal, I guess. But hey, I'll take that over the Note 3 plastic galore any day.

 

[Technarchy]

Yup, I scratched at the chamfered edges with my nail fairly gently to test how durable they are and now I have a permanent, nail-shaped scratch in the frame. They used a fairly cheap metal, I guess. But hey, I'll take that over the Note 3 plastic galore any day.

Anyone that has owned an iPhone 5 series knows exactly what you mean. Those chamfered edges are easily marred.

 

[Armen]

You are in the wrong subforum.

Well, in the "correct" sub forum the attitude towards Apple is still the same.