When I'm in doubt, I install the CPU on a single board, run AHT and use it a for a day.
By "single board", do you mean with the CPU in socket A only or do you mean with a Mac that has a single socket?
When I'm in doubt, I install the CPU on a single board, run AHT and use it a for a day.
My recommendation from post #15:Old CPUs back in the computer. Everything worked perfectly immediately. So, what are my options? How can I determine which CPUs work? Is it possible to replace the daughterboard of the 2009 with a 2010 (since the firmware is updated) and that would allow me to use CPUs with an IHS, right?
Single CPU tray.By "single board", do you mean with the CPU in socket A only or do you mean with a Mac that has a single socket?
I used it when I first got the computer, so I know it worked before. I can check pins later today. I didn't know to count the turns when I originally removed the heat sink so I am going with finger tightened.
When I'm in doubt, I install the CPU on a single board, run AHT and use it a for a day.
Hello, I am having a same issue on both Mac Pros. They were just fine for over 2 years without any issues. Recently, I tried to mess with open core, Radeon 580 w/metal for Mojave, and USB 3.0 pcie on one of my good running 5.1, 3.46Ghz. One night, I tried to open up logic pro and some sampling error made the screen to freezed, so I had to shut it down. And then it wouldn't boot anymore, so I pulled 3.33 tray from another mac pro and it was successfully rebooted. So again I open up logic pro and same error happened and wouldn't reboot just like 3.46 tray. So I thought somehow all CPUs were fried. Stupidly, I did same to on my other Mac Pro, result were the same, error from Logic pro they all dead. A day later, I installed 2.66 on both trays, and they all work just fine. I was very confused and want to find out what is going on. So I tried to install all of the 3.33 and 3.46 cpu individually just on CPU A slot, strangely they all boot and work as one cpu with 4 slots of RAM. When I did same test individually on CPU B slot, boot screen stuck on apple logo, and all fan spin at max speed. Now I really puzzled.To only do a test, yes, but since the 2009 logic board has the 1.39f5 SMC and the 2010 CPU tray has the 139f11, the fans will work at full RPM full time.
When I have to diagnose a dual CPU Mac Pro with similar problems, I always start installing a known working single CPU tray and test everything to be absolutely sure that the Mac Pro is working perfectly and the problems are located with just the dual CPU tray.Hello, I am having a same issue on both Mac Pros. They were just fine for over 2 years without any issues. Recently, I tried to mess with open core, Radeon 580 w/metal for Mojave, and USB 3.0 pcie on one of my good running 5.1, 3.46Ghz. One night, I tried to open up logic pro and some sampling error made the screen to freezed, so I had to shut it down. And then it wouldn't boot anymore, so I pulled 3.33 tray from another mac pro and it was successfully rebooted. So again I open up logic pro and same error happened and wouldn't reboot just like 3.46 tray. So I thought somehow all CPUs were fried. Stupidly, I did same to on my other Mac Pro, result were the same, error from Logic pro they all dead. A day later, I installed 2.66 on both trays, and they all work just fine. I was very confused and want to find out what is going on. So I tried to install all of the 3.33 and 3.46 cpu individually just on CPU A slot, strangely they all boot and work as one cpu with 4 slots of RAM. When I did same test individually on CPU B slot, boot screen stuck on apple logo, and all fan spin at max speed. Now I really puzzled.
Thank you, I clear NVRAM 3 times with working tray the pair of 2.66, but I skipped the AHT/ASD cause I don't have one (I might have to dig around attic). It fixed the one stubborn ram slot, but still not booting when both 3.46 CPU sockets are on the tray. And again I tested CPU A still boots both 3.46 individually. Yes, I checked all the pins and they all looking good. What else could it be?When I have to diagnose a dual CPU Mac Pro with similar problems, I always start installing a known working single CPU tray and test everything to be absolutely sure that the Mac Pro is working perfectly and the problems are located with just the dual CPU tray.
First thing is to remove all cards, all disks, do a 3-times consecutively clear NVRAM and boot a disk with a known working completely vanilla install of a MP5,1 supported macOS release, then run AHT/ASD. Only after all the tests are done, you look at the CPU tray.
After getting sure that you have a working Mac Pro, you have to track what is causing the CPU tray problems, some times all the weirdness is because you caused socket pin damage when you changed the CPUs. Look at the socket with strong illumination from very different angles using a magnification glass. It's extremely difficult, but not impossible, to re-align the socket pins. If it's not the socket pin damage, then you can't do anything else yourself and it's time to get a replacement tray or try to find someone that can diagnose and repair it.
Xeon 2nd QPI link failure?Thank you, I clear NVRAM 3 times with working tray the pair of 2.66, but I skipped the AHT/ASD cause I don't have one (I might have to dig around attic). It fixed the one stubborn ram slot, but still not booting when both 3.46 CPU sockets are on the tray. And again I tested CPU A still boots both 3.46 individually. Yes, I checked all the pins and they all looking good. What else could it be?
I will try it, thank you.You download and learn how to install AHT here:
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Tested with pair of 2.66 both trays, all passed on both MacPros. Install 3.46 none of them boot. Could that be Boot Rom version 144.0.0.0? This was the last update I did on both MacPros before this happen.I will try it, thank you.
The only chance of the BootROM be causing this is if you someway damaged the BootROM during the upgrade process, corrupting the microcode area. Since it's working with the original Xeons, I doubt that is being caused by the BootROM.Tested with pair of 2.66 both trays, all passed on both MacPros. Install 3.46 none of them boot. Could that be Boot Rom version 144.0.0.0? This was the last update I did on both MacPros before this happen.
I am really appreciated your help. Now I am thinking to get logic board on ebay and see that would turn things around. If not, definitely the trays are not upgradable, well not anymore.The only chance of the BootROM be causing this is you someway damaged the BootROM during the upgrade process, corrupting the microcode area. Since it's working with the original Xeons, I doubt that is being caused by the BootROM.
You can always backup/dump the SPI flash contents with ROMTool, save it securely, then use ROMTool to flash the generic MP51.fd from 10.14.6 full installer:I am really appreciated your help. Now I am thinking to get logic board on ebay and see that would turn things around. If not, definitely the trays are not upgradable, well not anymore.
Install\ macOS\ Mojave/Install\ macOS\ Mojave.app/Contents/Resources/Firmware/MP51.fd
Mojave was installed but, some of my old programs not loading, so downgrade it back to High Sirera.You can always backup/dump the SPI flash contents with ROMTool, save it securely, then use ROMTool to flash the generic MP51.fd from 10.14.6 full installer:
Code:Install\ macOS\ Mojave/Install\ macOS\ Mojave.app/Contents/Resources/Firmware/MP51.fd
It's enough for boot your Mac Pro, diagnose it but not for iCloud/iMessage/FaceTime login, so use it for diagnostics purposes only and after your tests, you flash the original dump back.
I'm honestly falling to see what you downgrading to HighSierra has anything to it. If you deleted the 10.14.6 installer, just get it again from the Mac App Store, then use Pacifist to extract the generic firmware upgrade image.Mojave was installed but, some of my old programs not loading, so downgrade it back to High Sirera.
ROMTool password is "rom", but if you don't know how to use it or completely understand the process, please don't even try.Ok, You lost me there my friend. I search ROMTool and downloaded, but I don't know what does it do, or how to use it. It is asking me the password. I put my screen login password, but no luck.
Ok..I will read up on that.ThanksROMTool password is "rom", but if you don't know how to use it, please don't even try.