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G1, Hero, myTouch.....garbage

Get a grip.

Hero advantages over iPhone:

- 5MP camera (although admittedly, I don't know if it's better than the iPhone 3GS camera)
- better speakers
- background app support
- widget support
- can change wallpapers on your homescreen
- facebook/twitter integration
- removable battery
- micro sd support

The only thing the hero hasn't got going for it is the massive amount of apps available for the iPhone! ..but that may come with time.
 
Same here. Never replaced a mobile battery. I have had over 15 different phones. You switch phones so much, by the time your phone needs a battery, you have had 2 new phones by then.

Not sure why people are stuck on the whole battery thing.

For me, it means having the luxury of zero "downtime" on the phone if I (sometimes forgetful human being) overuse some of my smartphone (Treo) features. Don't have to even consider whether there's a charger nearby or having the phone tethered to a cord. Actually, it allows me to not worry about having to set energy saving limits on phone features.
 
Get a grip.

Hero advantages over iPhone:

- 5MP camera (although admittedly, I don't know if it's better than the iPhone 3GS camera)
- better speakers
- background app support
- widget support
- can change wallpapers on your homescreen
- facebook/twitter integration
- removable battery
- micro sd support

The only thing the hero hasn't got going for it is the massive amount of apps available for the iPhone! ..but that may come with time.

all good points, minus facebook/twitter integration to which their are tons of apps for. But these points made me consider Android, until i jailbroke on my 3GS and all the options became available. I give Apple till iPhone 4.0 to implement most of these features before i really look at android and the phones it is offered with.
 
Get a grip.

Hero advantages over iPhone:

- 5MP camera (although admittedly, I don't know if it's better than the iPhone 3GS camera)
- better speakers
- background app support
- widget support
- can change wallpapers on your homescreen
- facebook/twitter integration
- removable battery
- micro sd support

The only thing the hero hasn't got going for it is the massive amount of apps available for the iPhone! ..but that may come with time.

Lol. I have a jailbroken 3G S and there is nothing that the Hero can do that my phone can't do faster.

The droid looks promising. One user said it earlier, the android sofware is good, the hardware has been terrible.
 
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Teflon > cheap plastic ;)
what's the model of that HTC phone? I've looked at HTC but there phones mostly cator to Euro UMTS frequencys and I'm not sure how goodthe American version is or how nice the apps are.
 
if you think developers will flock to Android as the new market to milk for mass profits, you are crazy. Android isn't new. The Android market isn't new. It has been around, and just because people are starting to notice it doesn't mean it is just starting to exist.


Yeah the Android market isn't new BUT it doesn't have the user base as the App Store. With the onslaught of new Android phone coming out between now and Christmas the Android market will begin to grow to numbers that make economic sense for developers (1 or 2+ million users)
 
One HUGE advantage iPhone has over Android is low level C based development. The games on the iPhone are STUNNING because of the advanced graphics API and native applications. Android developers don't have the level of access on their platform.


Get a grip.

Hero advantages over iPhone:

- 5MP camera (although admittedly, I don't know if it's better than the iPhone 3GS camera)
- better speakers
- background app support
- widget support
- can change wallpapers on your homescreen
- facebook/twitter integration
- removable battery
- micro sd support

The only thing the hero hasn't got going for it is the massive amount of apps available for the iPhone! ..but that may come with time.
 
Get a grip.

Hero advantages over iPhone:

- 5MP camera (although admittedly, I don't know if it's better than the iPhone 3GS camera)
- better speakers
- background app support
- widget support
- can change wallpapers on your homescreen
- facebook/twitter integration
- removable battery
- micro sd support

The only thing the hero hasn't got going for it is the massive amount of apps available for the iPhone! ..but that may come with time.

5MP -will most likely be crappy

Speakers- i love the iphones speakers no real issue

Background app support- Have that with my jailbreak

widget support-comming soon to a jailbroken iphone/Dont really care

Wallpapers and such in background of apps have with jailbreak..

Dont need a removable battery .. get a car charger

sd support -would NEVER need that
 
Android hardware is garbage
I dont care for the software much either

Android doesn't make hardware. The software (OS) is Android.

5MP -will most likely be crappy

Speakers- i love the iphones speakers no real issue

Background app support- Have that with my jailbreak

widget support-comming soon to a jailbroken iphone/Dont really care

Wallpapers and such in background of apps have with jailbreak..

Dont need a removable battery .. get a car charger

sd support -would NEVER need that

Will most likely be crappy? That's quite the argument. Also, OUT OF THE BOX one has these features, you don't need to jailbreak. As for the other points, you don't apply/don't care so there's no point in arguing them.
 
The android platform provides for some things that are a bit of a step ahead of Apple. I really believe in the power of Open Source software. It allows for much more customization and functionality than does a closed platform like the iPhone.

Some of these companies including HTC and Motorola (Droid) are coming out with hardware that is starting to pass up the iPhone in power...etc...

The only problem, that unfortunately won't be solved for the Android platform anytime soon, is the fact that it does not have the kind of support from developers that the iPhone/iTouch has. Developers aren't going to switch to Android from the iPhone. Many developers out there see how much money is being made on the iPhone right now, and they don't have any reason to switch to Android. A lot of the offerings on the Android Market are frankly, mediocre. They will continue to be, unless Android can really put something out there that is so advanced and in the future, that it makes EVERYONE want it. Remember, 95% of the people out there who are using iPhone OS don't know what the heck it is that they are using. They probably have never heard of Android. They are so caught up in their iPods and iPhones that they don't know the difference. It's only us 5% (nerds) that have any idea of what Android is. Us 5% are probably the only select frequency in the population that would even consider getting an Android phone over an iPhone.

I am not going to lie when I say that Android has some advantages over the iPhone OS. The hardware being offered on Android is a little bit more advanced. But, alas, Apple won't let this continue. Apple is constantly developing new hardware and software that continues to surprise everyone once they reveal it.

I have no doubt that the iPhone will, in the near future (a year or so), overcome these obstacles and will once again become superior on all playing fields. Apple realizes that there are things they need to improve on. The battery has always been an issue for them, but in recent times, they have come up with some pretty innovative things that they will hopefully integrate into the iPhone. With the introduction of faster hardware, I have no doubt Apple is already in the process of grabbing that stuff right off fabrication. I could go on and on...

The point is, don't give up on the iPhone. It's technology is getting a bit aged... I'm sure everyone can agree with that. The day when that revolution comes once again like with iPhone 2.0, is not far off. Have faith.
 
The android platform provides for some things that are a bit of a step ahead of Apple. I really believe in the power of Open Source software. It allows for much more customization and functionality than does a closed platform like the iPhone.

Some of these companies including HTC and Motorola (Droid) are coming out with hardware that is starting to pass up the iPhone in power...etc...

The only problem, that unfortunately won't be solved for the Android platform anytime soon, is the fact that it does not have the kind of support from developers that the iPhone/iTouch has. Developers aren't going to switch to Android from the iPhone. Many developers out there see how much money is being made on the iPhone right now, and they don't have any reason to switch to Android. A lot of the offerings on the Android Market are frankly, mediocre. They will continue to be, unless Android can really put something out there that is so advanced and in the future, that it makes EVERYONE want it. Remember, 95% of the people out there who are using iPhone OS don't know what the heck it is that they are using. They probably have never heard of Android. They are so caught up in their iPods and iPhones that they don't know the difference. It's only us 5% (nerds) that have any idea of what Android is. Us 5% are probably the only select frequency in the population that would even consider getting an Android phone over an iPhone.

I am not going to lie when I say that Android has some advantages over the iPhone OS. The hardware being offered on Android is a little bit more advanced. But, alas, Apple won't let this continue. Apple is constantly developing new hardware and software that continues to surprise everyone once they reveal it.

I have no doubt that the iPhone will, in the near future (a year or so), overcome these obstacles and will once again become superior on all playing fields. Apple realizes that there are things they need to improve on. The battery has always been an issue for them, but in recent times, they have come up with some pretty innovative things that they will hopefully integrate into the iPhone. With the introduction of faster hardware, I have no doubt Apple is already in the process of grabbing that stuff right off fabrication. I could go on and on...

The point is, don't give up on the iPhone. It's technology is getting a bit aged... I'm sure everyone can agree with that. The day when that revolution comes once again like with iPhone 2.0, is not far off. Have faith.


Well said
 
It's only us 5% (nerds) that have any idea of what Android is. Us 5% are probably the only select frequency in the population that would even consider getting an Android phone over an iPhone.
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This is a common mistake tech people make. The public is smarter than may techies give credit. Fact of the matter is peopler buy features and brand. If the Droid army can SUCCESSFULLY BRAND their phones as BETTER THAN A IPHONE, and provide access to Facebook, twitter, web, apps etc. then more their reach will be way more than 5%.

I don't we are giving up on the iPhone, you and I know that 2010 will be an amazing year for Apple hardware, including, I believe a new iPhone. The question is will the Droid Army successfully mount a real challenge to iPhone's grip on the market. The jury is still out.
 
Uh, you'd rather carry around a batttery tethered to your phone all evening instead of taking 5 seconds and swapping out batteries? Ok.

Huh? You can leave the thing plugged into the bottom when sitting in your car or whatever and it will recharge your phone. How is powering your phone off, taking the back off, and swapping batteries any more convenient? Seems like MORE of a hassle if you ask me.

Yeah the Android market isn't new BUT it doesn't have the user base as the App Store. With the onslaught of new Android phone coming out between now and Christmas the Android market will begin to grow to numbers that make economic sense for developers (1 or 2+ million users)

Meh maybe. I still doubt it. The best Android apps are free, and they are of the highest quality. I just don't see it being more profitable for developers to work with Android. Not to mention the rooted Android developer phone (which I own) is $400 + $25 developer fee.

Get a grip.

Hero advantages over iPhone:

- 5MP camera (although admittedly, I don't know if it's better than the iPhone 3GS camera)
- better speakers
- background app support
- widget support
- can change wallpapers on your homescreen
- facebook/twitter integration
- removable battery
- micro sd support

The only thing the hero hasn't got going for it is the massive amount of apps available for the iPhone! ..but that may come with time.

Facebook/twitter integration is neat but it isn't all that amazing to be honest. I ran the Hero rom on my developer G1 for a while, and while I did like the integration with Facebook, it is far from perfect. All it really does is grab contact pictures and updates. If it tossed all of your facebook contacts WITH phone numbers into your contact book... THAT would be cool.

Removable Micro SD isn't all that great. If your applications write to your SD card, removing it causes problems.

Removable battery isn't amazing either as it just adds bulk.

The home screen is the BEST part of Android (as indicated in a review of Android I wrote)

Don't really care about speakers as I use headphones when viewing media.
 
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Teflon > cheap plastic ;)

Chins are about the ugliest thing that anyone has ever conjured up in the cell phone market.

Matttye: facebook/twitter integration is meh. We have push for Twitter already and push for Facebook is coming (eventually). Those aren't any outstanding features.
 
I read that the G1 sold over 1 million units. Thus its safe to say that by the end of the year, there will be close to 3 million sold, assuming all the droid based phones release this year

Yeah the Android market isn't new BUT it doesn't have the user base as the App Store. With the onslaught of new Android phone coming out between now and Christmas the Android market will begin to grow to numbers that make economic sense for developers (1 or 2+ million users)
 
Huh? The Android marketplace has been around for a long time already (I own and currently use an Android G1), and it isn't limited. There are a lot of applications and games, and very high quality ones at that.

However for those of you thinking Android is the saving grace for developers: you are wrong. Some of the BEST Android apps and games (tower defense, ChompSMS (SMS replacement), Handcent SMS (SMS replacement), SEVEN (email client), Pandora, eBuddy IM (multi-protocol chat), etc, etc) are free. Yeah, completely free. Most high quality apps in the Android marketplace are free.

So if you think developers will flock to Android as the new market to milk for mass profits, you are crazy. Android isn't new. The Android market isn't new. It has been around, and just because people are starting to notice it doesn't mean it is just starting to exist.

Android needs good DEVICES to make it flourish. The OS is fine, but the hardware sucks big time.

People are deluded if they believe developers will make more money on Android than the App Store.
 
"Have faith"?? We are talking cell phones here... Some of you guys bow down to the alter of steve jobs way too much. Its all about competition. I welcome the droids. The consumer wins with greater competition. Regarding app support, there are many apps for android phones. More will come as more phones are sold. Google has a strong following in the developer community as well.

The android platform provides for some things that are a bit of a step ahead of Apple. I really believe in the power of Open Source software. It allows for much more customization and functionality than does a closed platform like the iPhone.

Some of these companies including HTC and Motorola (Droid) are coming out with hardware that is starting to pass up the iPhone in power...etc...

The only problem, that unfortunately won't be solved for the Android platform anytime soon, is the fact that it does not have the kind of support from developers that the iPhone/iTouch has. Developers aren't going to switch to Android from the iPhone. Many developers out there see how much money is being made on the iPhone right now, and they don't have any reason to switch to Android. A lot of the offerings on the Android Market are frankly, mediocre. They will continue to be, unless Android can really put something out there that is so advanced and in the future, that it makes EVERYONE want it. Remember, 95% of the people out there who are using iPhone OS don't know what the heck it is that they are using. They probably have never heard of Android. They are so caught up in their iPods and iPhones that they don't know the difference. It's only us 5% (nerds) that have any idea of what Android is. Us 5% are probably the only select frequency in the population that would even consider getting an Android phone over an iPhone.

I am not going to lie when I say that Android has some advantages over the iPhone OS. The hardware being offered on Android is a little bit more advanced. But, alas, Apple won't let this continue. Apple is constantly developing new hardware and software that continues to surprise everyone once they reveal it.

I have no doubt that the iPhone will, in the near future (a year or so), overcome these obstacles and will once again become superior on all playing fields. Apple realizes that there are things they need to improve on. The battery has always been an issue for them, but in recent times, they have come up with some pretty innovative things that they will hopefully integrate into the iPhone. With the introduction of faster hardware, I have no doubt Apple is already in the process of grabbing that stuff right off fabrication. I could go on and on...

The point is, don't give up on the iPhone. It's technology is getting a bit aged... I'm sure everyone can agree with that. The day when that revolution comes once again like with iPhone 2.0, is not far off. Have faith.
 
I read that the G1 sold over 1 million units. Thus its safe to say that by the end of the year, there will be close to 3 million sold, assuming all the droid based phones release this year

I doubt that. The G1 is now old and gone. People will be buying newer Android phones if anything.

Unless you're talking about 3 million Android phones, then yes, I agree.
 
Yes, that is what I meant. Over 1 million G1 was sold. When you factor in the current android based phones (mytouch, htc hero, etc) and future droid phones planned this year, the total android phones sold should reach at least 3 million. Thus more app support will come.

I doubt that. The G1 is now old and gone. People will be buying newer Android phones if anything.

Unless you're talking about 3 million Android phones, then yes, I agree.
 
Not to mention the rooted Android developer phone (which I own) is $400 + $25 developer fee.
I thought the dev kit was free? Whatever, the case they are going to have to drop that to $99 to compete with iPhone.

One area where Droid phones will make huge gains is in the Corporate market. Watch out RIM! Android 2.0 supports Exchange out the box and will be available on all the major carriers. The dev language is are much easier to work with than Object C. The iPhone being tied to AT&T is at a huge disadvantage here.
 
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