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Why must we as Mac-users always be behind the tech-curve when compared to our PC-cousins? Why can't Apple develop its products to use never seen before processors that wipe the PC-map? i3? i5? Seriously? This is sooo OLD tech and is completely LAUGHABLE and shouldn't even be considered... i7 - possibly but this has been around for over a year! Let's PUSH the boundaries! Apple is becoming less and less a "computer" company and more of a gadget company. iPads, iPhones and iOS - whoop-dee-doo. Lion is just a big iOS mess - and requires me to have a trackpad to take advantage of it... SO WHAT. I'm an Apple computer-user - not a gadget-guy. Bleh!
Blame Intel. Their licensing terms mean that you either use an i-series CPU and discrete graphics (too hot/power hungry for the mini) or you use the Intel onboard GPU which is not that great, although SB is better. Without this issue we would have had i3 minis with even better integrated GPUs last year.

Apple products always look outdated as they approach the end of their lives as they are competing against dozens of other manufacturers who have much more varied update cycles. The competition can afford to update more frequently as well as they don't have to (and often don't care) about compatibility and software issues. Sometimes it also pays to wait. P67 recall anyone?
 
Why must we as Mac-users always be behind the tech-curve when compared to our PC-cousins? Why can't Apple develop its products to use never seen before processors that wipe the PC-map? i3? i5? Seriously? This is sooo OLD tech and is completely LAUGHABLE and shouldn't even be considered... i7 - possibly but this has been around for over a year! Let's PUSH the boundaries! Apple is becoming less and less a "computer" company and more of a gadget company. iPads, iPhones and iOS - whoop-dee-doo. Lion is just a big iOS mess - and requires me to have a trackpad to take advantage of it... SO WHAT. I'm an Apple computer-user - not a gadget-guy. Bleh!
I ordered a Core i7 back in Jan 2009 and the Mac Mini should have that CPU two and a half years later IMHO. BTW the Core i7 came out for PCs in Nov 2008.
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Or how about an AMD CPU/GPU combo for the Mac Mini.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-llano-amd-apu-llano-apu-cpu-gpu,12918.html

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/69-cpu-chipset/43391-amd-llano-for-notebooks-on-june-14th.html
 
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Why must we as Mac-users always be behind the tech-curve when compared to our PC-cousins?

Got my present Core2 Q6600 Quad PC in 2007 - my present C2D iMac in 2009? :(
 
Why must we as Mac-users always be behind the tech-curve when compared to our PC-cousins? Why can't Apple develop its products to use never seen before processors that wipe the PC-map? i3? i5? Seriously? This is sooo OLD tech and is completely LAUGHABLE and shouldn't even be considered... i7 - possibly but this has been around for over a year! Let's PUSH the boundaries! Apple is becoming less and less a "computer" company and more of a gadget company. iPads, iPhones and iOS - whoop-dee-doo. Lion is just a big iOS mess - and requires me to have a trackpad to take advantage of it... SO WHAT. I'm an Apple computer-user - not a gadget-guy. Bleh!

So an LGA1155 Sandybridge i3,i5 and i7are now considered old! Considering we are still waiting in PC land for the ivy bridge replacements, then not sure how you will get something newer then the 1155 iSeries.

Having said that here in the UK can now by an LGA1155 45W 2.3GHz Quad Core i5 2500T. Would have thought was suitable for a Mac Mini machine.
 
So an LGA1155 Sandybridge i3,i5 and i7are now considered old! Considering we are still waiting in PC land for the ivy bridge replacements, then not sure how you will get something newer then the 1155 iSeries.

Having said that here in the UK can now by an LGA1155 45W 2.3GHz Quad Core i5 2500T. Would have thought was suitable for a Mac Mini machine.

Still too hot. 25w.
 
Apple should just use the 2011 iMac hardware without monitor in the new 2011 Mac Mini and it would sell like hotcakes . It would save them money because there would be less configurations to test with OS X Lion.
There are millions waiting for a Mac that cost less than half the price of the base Mac Pro but don't want it built into the back of a monitor.

Make the case big enough to 2 hard drives, an optical drive and put some jacks on the front. I'd buy it for $1499. Apple would be making a tidy profit since they wouldn't be buying a screen to stick on the front of it. Technically I'd be paying more and getting less (no monitor) but I'd be getting what I want and not what Apple thinks I want.
 
Make the case big enough to 2 hard drives, an optical drive and put some jacks on the front. I'd buy it for $1499. Apple would be making a tidy profit since they wouldn't be buying a screen to stick on the front of it. Technically I'd be paying more and getting less (no monitor) but I'd be getting what I want and not what Apple thinks I want.

This will be the new Mac Pro IMHO. I am thinking that the Mac Pro will be redesigned with the option of SB i5/ i7's or an option for the new Server Chips. The Mac Pro do not need 4+ drive bays these days. It will be a desk top for the masses.
 
I'd disagree a bit here. The average user might not be interested in specs, but they do want "acres and acres" of space for all their stuff (music, photos, video, etc).

True. Those MB Air super-slim SSD's would leave room for a 2.5" HDD, so it's not the end of the world.

I think that you have a basic misunderstanding of how an SSD performs. The poorer the specs the less likely the user is in seeing any significant benefits while the better the specs the better an SSD will perform. Therefore the latest and greatest Macs will perform much better when fitted with an SSD than something like a Mini.

I think the average consumer would be much happier with more RAM and a significant bump in storage - I know I would.

See above re: storage. Apple have always been stingy with their RAM, you'll get no disagreement from me there. As for SSD performance: why not go into an Apple store and try a fast, i5 MBP 13" out alongside a C2D Air and see which one 'feels' faster? I have. Waiting for that 5400RPM hard disk to spin up is painful and wipes out any immediate benefit from the faster processor.
 
The mini is officially backordered at BB, Apple's number one retail outlet outside of an Apple store. 1-2 weeks for delivery. What could it mean??:p
 
I hope it does come out this week, but that leaves me with a predicament. I'd like to get OS X Lion and the Back-to-school rebate/iPod too...
 
I hope it does come out this week, but that leaves me with a predicament. I'd like to get OS X Lion and the Back-to-school rebate/iPod too...

I don't think they have offered the back to school promo with the mini ... I hope I am wrong though as I am going to buy the new mini as soon as it cmes out whether it has Lion or not.
 
9to5 mac

9to5 mac have published an article saying that Mac minis are constrained at Best Buy ...:D
 
Finally a good Mac Mini rumor that actually seems to be true. Hopefully we see at least one other retailer run dry as well. Come on refresh...
 
Im pretty sure that the Mac Mini is supposed to be Apple's cheapest "entry level" computer. By pricing default, its supposed to be a little behind the "tech curve". Asking for a $1600 Mac Mini defeats the purpose of the philosophy of the Mac Mini. Just sayin'.
The Mac Pro is supposed to be the one that pushes the envelope. And, it generally has being one of the first desktop computers with multiple core, multiple processor options as well as 64GB RAM and TB+ expandability.
 
The Mac Pro is supposed to be the one that pushes the envelope. And, it generally has being one of the first desktop computers with multiple core, multiple processor options as well as 64GB RAM and TB+ expandability.

But it doesn't remotely push the envelope...
 
But it doesn't remotely push the envelope...

It was in the ballpark of envelope pushing last AUG 2010. A dual hex 2.93 with 64gb ram and a few 512gb ssds was a very good machine last year.

Now if you look around you can find some dells with dual hex 3.46's on the market. Along with hi ram 96gb and dual ssds
 
I wouldn't worry too much about lion. Any Mac purchased after June 6th gets lion for free when it comes out.
 
They need to make the Mac mini more in line with the iMac and MBP's. Its a desktop computer with specs of their more expensive baseline macbook and thats just it, the macbook is far from what i'd consider a desktop replacement so modeling the mac mini after it is just too weak. At very least it should adopt the a dual core i5 sandy bridge with a respectable graphics solution rather than intels gma hd 3000.
 
the macbook is far from what i'd consider a desktop replacement so modeling the mac mini after it is just too weak. At very least it should adopt the a dual core i5 sandy bridge with a respectable graphics solution rather than intels gma hd 3000.

Huh? Mini comes with nVidia m320 graphics, not GMA HD3000. i3/i5 with Intel integrated graphics will actually be a small step down from the current Mini in graphics performance.

In any case, Mini is an entry level Mac desktop in a small form factor. It is perfectly fine as a "desktop replacement" (I am not even sure what that means these days) for vast majority of people.
 
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