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Probably yes....

To be honest I installed Google Chrome for my daughter but I never use it.
I tested it and seems to work fine on my MBP 2012 13" ,Mojave 10.14.6, Samsung 850 EVO, 16 GB RAM ,TRIM enabled, Hibernation disabled.
For me Safari is perfect..

Thanks Kees. I think it’s a definite video problem over and above anything else on Chrome. It’s also a shame that Safari doesn’t have the animated thumbs on YouTube like Chrome has. But from a safety point of view Safari let a whole lot of malware in for me.
 
I'm sorry to hear that!

But from a safety point of view Safari let a whole lot of malware in for me.

Hope you installed e.g. MalwareBytes...

EDIT: btw i agree with others in previous posts that an SSD with at least 40% empty space and TRIM enabled will improve overall performance , on the other hand it's a MBP of almost 10 years old , don't expect miracles but I few tweaks as mentioned will help noticeable....
 
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I'm sorry to hear that!



Hope you installed e.g. MalwareBytes...

EDIT: btw i agree with others in previous posts that an SSD with at least 40% empty space and TRIM enabled will improve overall performance , on the other hand it's a MBP of almost 10 years old , don't expect miracles but I few tweaks as mentioned will help noticeable....

Yes, I had a real onslaught with Safari a barrage of those downloads that flew into the downloads folder and couldn't be stopped without disconnecting WiFi, and it was so fast it chucked hundreds in there of little files of whatever. Chrome on same site did not do that. I do have Malwarebytes yes, but not sure how much it picks up when it scans in only a minute. Generally speaking 40% free mostly now yes. And like you say nearly 10 years old, it certainly owes me nothing.
Thanks again
 
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Are you just saying try another Chromium?

@iluvmacs99 Regards to Brave, when I go on the Daily Mail UK site, in recent months it doesn't let you in unless you disarm AdBlock, and you have no access to it unless you turn it off. If Brave boasts all the things it says it does, why does that not come up for that browser, but ads do still pop up with Brave browser. Any idea?
 
Are you just saying try another Chromium?

@iluvmacs99 Regards to Brave, when I go on the Daily Mail UK site, in recent months it doesn't let you in unless you disarm AdBlock, and you have no access to it unless you turn it off. If Brave boasts all the things it says it does, why does that not come up for that browser, but ads do still pop up with Brave browser. Any idea?

Brave offers 3 settings for its brave shield settings. Aggressive (stop all trackers and ads including first party), Standard (stop all trackers and all 3rd party ads but allow first party ads in) and none (allows all trackers and all ads).
By default, Brave is set to using the standard shield which allows first party ads, because some sites will not work unless you allow the first party ads to work. Keep in mind that first party ads do not track you. First party ads are affiliated only to the main site; in this case Daily Mail UK. It is the 3rd party ads that DO TRACK you, because they don't show who they are. They remain in stealth mode. If you set the Brave shield to Aggressive mode, you may not be able to enter Daily Mail UK. However, you can customize Brave shield to allow certain sites that do not like Adblock, while shielding you from ads from all other sites. Last but not least, Brave is based on Chromium and will work with Google Services and since it is based on Chrome, you can install an alternative blocker like Uorigin from the Chrome store if you find Brave's settings not to your liking. Personally, I found Brave shields custom settings to be adequate without requiring an extension like I have with Opera. Learn how Brave's icons work. Brave even has a built-in encryption site function like https everywhere, but you don't require the extension. Once you know about its features, Brave is a very powerful and private browser. Brave features work very differently from Safari, Chrome and Opera and may be quite confusing if you're not used to their functionality. I have included the tutorial below.

 
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Brave offers 3 settings for its brave shield settings. Aggressive (stop all trackers and ads including first party), Standard (stop all trackers and all 3rd party ads but allow first party ads in) and none (allows all trackers and all ads).
By default, Brave is set to using the standard shield which allows first party ads, because some sites will not work unless you allow the first party ads to work. Keep in mind that first party ads do not track you. First party ads are affiliated only to the main site; in this case Daily Mail UK. It is the 3rd party ads that DO TRACK you, because they don't show who they are. They remain in stealth mode. If you set the Brave shield to Aggressive mode, you may not be able to enter Daily Mail UK. However, you can customize Brave shield to allow certain sites that do not like Adblock, while shielding you from ads from all other sites. Last but not least, Brave is based on Chromium and will work with Google Services and since it is based on Chrome, you can install an alternative blocker like Uorigin from the Chrome store if you find Brave's settings not to your liking. Personally, I found Brave shields custom settings to be adequate without requiring an extension like I have with Opera. Learn how Brave's icons work. Brave even has a built-in encryption site function like https everywhere, but you don't require the extension. Once you know about its features, Brave is a very powerful and private browser. Brave features work very differently from Safari, Chrome and Opera and may be quite confusing if you're not used to their functionality. I have included the tutorial below.


Thanks so much for that, That's really helped.

One question, I can't fathom, In the Shield settings help, the drop down at top of browser in their support pics shows the settings you mention, 'aggressive/standard' etc, but it is not there on my browser, Their pic shows 'trackers and ads blocked' (standard), but mine says 'cross site trackers blocked' with no option of changing settings to standard/aggressive etc. Is it because it's a different version now and doesn't have that option?
 
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Mine is on the right, trackers only, not 'trackers and ads', and their example on left, so I"ve none of those aggressive or standard options on there.

And yes, aren't Yahoo imposing. I thought Google was bad...
 

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I just noticed it now as well. I never looked at my settings after I had set it. LOL.. Looks like they had upgraded the software recently and had done away with the aggressive mode, which basically didn't work with most sites anyhow, including some banking sites. So now, you either have it on or off. The cross-site trackers is the ad-block for 3rd party sites, which works really well like the old standard mode. As I said before, Brave by default in standard mode will not block 1st party ads. To do that, you have to add a script in Brave Adblock Plus (works like Uorigin and Ghostery) to remove that, but could could cause site instability. I just use Uorigin and Ghostery chrome extensions to custom block the 1st party ads, but most of the time Uorigin and Ghostery will have nothing else to do, because Brave blocked pretty much all 3rd party ads. Agreed -- I dislike Yahoo and use DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine.
 
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I just noticed it now as well. I never looked at my settings after I had set it. LOL.. Looks like they had upgraded the software recently and had done away with the aggressive mode, which basically didn't work with most sites anyhow, including some banking sites. So now, you either have it on or off. The cross-site trackers is the ad-block for 3rd party sites, which works really well like the old standard mode. As I said before, Brave by default in standard mode will not block 1st party ads. To do that, you have to add a script in Brave Adblock Plus (works like Uorigin and Ghostery) to remove that, but could could cause site instability. I just use Uorigin and Ghostery chrome extensions to custom block the 1st party ads, but most of the time Uorigin and Ghostery will have nothing else to do, because Brave blocked pretty much all 3rd party ads. Agreed -- I dislike Yahoo and use DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine.

Thanks for all your help on this. It's been really helpful.
Has DuckDuckGo upped their video search results lately, Always only ever showed YouTube for some reason
Only been on one site where it showed '8' on 'Connections upgraded to HTTPS'. Any idea?
 
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Thanks for all your help on this. It's been really helpful.
Has DuckDuckGo upped their video search results lately, Always only ever showed YouTube for some reason
Only been on one site where it showed '8' on 'Connections upgraded to HTTPS'. Any idea?

For me, it doesn't always show Youtube, but I guess it depends on the topic you are searching.
 
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For me, it doesn't always show Youtube, but I guess it depends on the topic you are searching.

Oh right, just looked, it has changed, but not much, still mostly YouTube. What is the meaning behind the 'Connections upgraded to HTTPS'. Only seen it happen once.

Have you ran Onyx lately? I have weaker machines that can run YouTube on Safari just fine. Crusty install maybe?

Never used it. Wondering if worth trying El Cap, but I think as stated already 9 year MBP I shouldn't expect too much
 
Oh right, just looked, it has changed, but not much, still mostly YouTube. What is the meaning behind the 'Connections upgraded to HTTPS'. Only seen it happen once.

Yes, It just means that the connection is encrypted, so no one else in the network can see what you are watching, reading and listening to. It is now common to have most website connections to be in HTTPS, rather than the normal HTTP which is totally insecure if you are on a public or private network. You should see a lock sign for any site that uses the HTTPS protocol. There will be a triangular sign with an exclamation mark if it's a normal unencrypted http connection. You should always enforce https connection whenever is possible to maintain privacy and security with whatever you do. Of course, if you are doing online banking, a HTTPS connection is mandatory. But now, with Brave and most other browsers, you get this as standard or else, you need to use an extension HTTPS Everywhere to force the connection upgrade with Google Chrome.
 
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Yes, It just means that the connection is encrypted, so no one else in the network can see what you are watching, reading and listening to. It is now common to have most website connections to be in HTTPS, rather than the normal HTTP which is totally insecure if you are on a public or private network. You should see a lock sign for any site that uses the HTTPS protocol. There will be a triangular sign with an exclamation mark if it's a normal unencrypted http connection. You should always enforce https connection whenever is possible to maintain privacy and security with whatever you do. Of course, if you are doing online banking, a HTTPS connection is mandatory. But now, with Brave and most other browsers, you get this as standard or else, you need to use an extension HTTPS Everywhere to force the connection upgrade with Google Chrome.

Thanks for the reply, It's only ever done it on one site, and it said 8, Never seen it on any other, just wondered why it singled out only one out of all sites I'm on, but now assume all the other sites I were on are secure with the padlock despite them not saying 'https' they presumably are

EDIT: Speaking of Google 'helpers' as we were, I just counted 10 in Activity Monitor for 'Brave helpers', on videos. Same old same old .... can't escape them on Chromium it would appear
 
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