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This is all quite depressing about the Mac Pro. My boss has given me 5 grand to buy a new Mac but it has to be used within the tax year, which ends on 30 June 2016. Not sure what to do now. I'm very much hoping they announce the updated model at the June conference.
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They have to refresh it this year or take it out of the lineup (at the current price is getting ridiculous).
Just wait a few months.
 
This is all quite depressing about the Mac Pro. My boss has given me 5 grand to buy a new Mac but it has to be used within the tax year, which ends on 30 June 2016. Not sure what to do now. I'm very much hoping they announce the updated model at the June conference.
I don't know about your company - but my company interprets "used" to mean "delivered", not "ordered".

MacWorld SF ends on 12 June. That would be the day that you'll buy the current MP6,1 - unless the MP7,1 is announced as "available immediately"...
 
I suspect you'll see a mac pro bump when AMD release their new Polaris based GPUs.

Until then... not a heap to upgrade it with. Not sure if the Xeons have been updated yet?

That's not apple's problem - the Xeon line is updated much more slowly than the consumer CPUs.
 
Not sure if the Xeons have been updated yet?

That's not apple's problem - the Xeon line is updated much more slowly than the consumer CPUs.
Apple is using E5-x6xx v2 CPUs that were introduced in Q3 2013.

The current E5-x6xx v3 CPUs were released a year later - Q3 2014.

So yes, the Xeons have been updated.
 
This is all quite depressing about the Mac Pro. My boss has given me 5 grand to buy a new Mac but it has to be used within the tax year, which ends on 30 June 2016. Not sure what to do now. I'm very much hoping they announce the updated model at the June conference.
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Buy an apple gift card. :) Sorry to hear. I think a lot of us are in the same wait/pray mode...
 
and Apple still charges the exact same price for it as release day.

This rhetoric is not true, BH sells them regularly for 3-400 off the MSRP. Nobody should ever pay full price for a high end Apple product, its foolish. At the very least you can get a student discount, as they never check.
 
This rhetoric is not true, BH sells them regularly for 3-400 off the MSRP. Nobody should ever pay full price for a high end Apple product, its foolish. At the very least you can get a student discount, as they never check.

I don't appreciate you calling my statement untrue rhetoric. My statement is indisputable; but I can tell from your explanation that you've simply missed the point.

The depreciating value of computer components normally results in the lowering of the price over time, especially over long periods like a couple of years. Apple on the other hand has kept the same MSRP for over two years now. This is not my personal opinion, it's factual and Apple is well known for this. It's the pattern they have for Mac pricing, with some very rare exceptions.

Discounts off of that MSRP from 3rd party dealers or for educational buyers have always been available.
 
I don't appreciate you calling my statement untrue rhetoric.

There is a difference between MSRP and street or market price. The current market/street price of a 2013 mac pro is considerably lower than the MSRP that Apple offers on its online store. This market price is dictated through the offerings of 3rd party sellers, and in some ways through the edu discounts or refurb pricing through Apple.
 
There is a difference between MSRP and street or market price. The current market/street price of a 2013 mac pro is considerably lower than the MSRP that Apple offers on its online store. This market price is dictated through the offerings of 3rd party sellers, and in some ways through the edu discounts or refurb pricing through Apple.
Define "considerably"
 
There is a difference between MSRP and street or market price. The current market/street price of a 2013 mac pro is considerably lower than the MSRP that Apple offers on its online store. This market price is dictated through the offerings of 3rd party sellers, and in some ways through the edu discounts or refurb pricing through Apple.

I completely understand that. I myself have bought a Mac from B&H and from the refurb store.

You are still missing my point about how the price should be falling over time. The discounted prices should also be falling over time. Perhaps this is a better explanation:

Apple MSRP
2013: $3500
2016: $3500

Apple Educational Discount ($200 off of a new Mac)
2013: $3300
2016: $3300

B&H Discounted Price "street price" ($300 to $400 off of a new Mac Pro)
2013: $3100-$3200
2016: $3100-$3200

The point is in 2016 you should not be buying a 2013 computer at 2013 prices, whether those prices are MSRP, educational discount, or street. All Macs, not just the nMP, are their best value right when they are new and are terrible values if still being sold for over two years.
 
I completely understand that. I myself have bought a Mac from B&H and from the refurb store.

You are still missing my point about how the price should be falling over time. The discounted prices should also be falling over time. Perhaps this is a better explanation:

Apple MSRP
2013: $3500
2016: $3500

Apple Educational Discount ($200 off of a new Mac)
2013: $3300
2016: $3300

B&H Discounted Price "street price" ($300 to $400 off of a new Mac Pro)
2013: $3100-$3200
2016: $3100-$3200

The point is in 2016 you should not be buying a 2013 computer at 2013 prices, whether those prices are MSRP, educational discount, or street. All Macs, not just the nMP, are their best value right when they are new and are terrible values if still being sold for over two years.


Agree - this is basically saying "If you want to run OSX, you need to pay the same price you always did". I could build a Xeon server that would roast the current MacPro lineup, for half the price. Im almost tempted to do so, and install Hackintosh on it.
 
Agree - this is basically saying "If you want to run OSX, you need to pay the same price you always did". I could build a Xeon server that would roast the current MacPro lineup, for half the price. Im almost tempted to do so, and install Hackintosh on it.
How much are 2013 Toyotas going for?
 
I was reading through and thinking how depressing this is, and then I saw that this is from over a year ago! Sigh. I don't think we will ever see a new MacPro...
 
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