2017 iPad Pro owners - Will you upgrade in 2018?

[subjonas]

On an iOS device? Yes, I think that’s 100% absurd.

You have incredible faith in Apple. I believe they do a great job, but I also believe no one and nothing is perfect, and everything connected to the internet is ultimately hackable. Very difficult, yes. Absurdly impossible, absolutely not.

The only way to be completely safe and secure for the paranoid amongst us is to go completely offline. Or keep your smartphone in a faraday bag all the time which defeats the purpose a bit.

Be smart. Take basic precautions. But don't get too paranoid. Fact is there's not much you really CAN do against being hacked or tracked besides going offline … so just limit your exposure and keep sensitive info locked down.

I agree with some of this, but there is no distinct line between being smart and being paranoid. It’s a spectrum. Being smart is understanding threats and taking proper precautions before they happen. Being paranoid is taking precautions against unlikely threats. But all (preventable) damage happens precisely because we thought the threat was unlikely. So it seems completely logical to me then that in order to minimize damage, one invariably has to step into, or rather lean toward, “paranoia”—to guard against even extremely unlikely threats. But one should only do so with two caveats:
- if what you are guarding is of high enough value.
- if the precaution is reasonable in proportion to the likelihood of the threat and the value of the protected.

These are of course subjective and vary greatly from person to person. But in my opinion, if all it takes is a little sticker on a camera when you’re not using it, to make sure no one is watching you, your loved ones, you or your loved ones exposed, your home, your valuables, your actions and expressions to the minute detail—I consider that well within the realm of reasonable. All it is really is just, as you say, limiting (unnecessary) exposure.

 

[eVolcre]

You have incredible faith in Apple. I believe they do a great job, but I also believe no one and nothing is perfect, and everything connected to the internet is ultimately hackable. Very difficult, yes. Absurdly impossible, absolutely not.



I agree with some of this, but there is no distinct line between being smart and being paranoid. It’s a spectrum. Being smart is understanding threats and taking proper precautions before they happen. Being paranoid is taking precautions against unlikely threats. But all (preventable) damage happens precisely because we thought the threat was unlikely. So it seems completely logical to me then that in order to minimize damage, one invariably has to step into, or rather lean toward, “paranoia”—to guard against even extremely unlikely threats. But one should only do so with two caveats:
- if what you are guarding is of high enough value.
- if the precaution is reasonable in proportion to the likelihood of the threat and the value of the protected.

These are of course subjective and vary greatly from person to person. But in my opinion, if all it takes is a little sticker on a camera when you’re not using it, to make sure no one is watching you, your loved ones, you or your loved ones exposed, your home, your valuables, your actions and expressions to the minute detail—I consider that well within the realm of reasonable. All it is really is just, as you say, limiting (unnecessary) exposure.

Fair enough and I think we’re on the same page here (thanks for the courteous response btw. Rarer and rarer around here these days)

My point was every device should be locked down MORE than the sticky tape. If someone has the skills to access your webcam they can also hotmic your phone, access pics , and get into sensitive data.

And IF your device is sufficiently hardened to prevent all of the above then the sticky tape becomes a moot point because the webcam hack is already protected.

In this day and age there is no excuse NOt to use a vpn at the bare minimum. And most reliable vpn providers now offer device hardening and protection either for free or a few bucks More.

At the end of the day peace of mind is the most important thing and we will all do whatever we need to do (or not to do) right?


Cheers

eV

 

[wxnats]

I’ve got the 1st gen 12.9” and likely won’t upgrade...this one works fine.

 

[Sunshoopa]

Nah, the main reason I upgraded before was because of the lack of ram and the device got a lot slower. My iPad Pro on iOS 12 is far, far faster than any of my previous iPads (2, Air) when they were brand new, so I think this ones gonna last awhile.

 

[Swisspo]

I’ve got the 1st gen 12.9” and likely won’t upgrade...this one works fine.

I am with you I think. I am also a Gen 1 iPad Pro 12.9 owner, and this device paired with what I’m seeing from running iOS 12 beta is still more than enough for me. The device is still lightning fast for everything I do. I picked up the Logitech Slim Combo Keyboard yesterday, and that might have been one of the best purchases I have made for it thus far. Made it feel new to me again.

 

[anthony13]

Is there a concensus on whether the new rumored iPad Pro 11” or 10.5 will be the same size foot print as the 10.5? I’m wondering if there will be a redesigned Smart Keyboard. I have to imagine the leaked case with the cutout on the back is either an additional connector or something entirely new.

 

[fokmik]

So recent rumours said both will have slimmer bezels, even the current 10.5" will have top and bot slim bezels
Both, will have 6gb Ram, A12(x), faceID vs 2, both vertical and horizontal orientation,no longer need to swipe (or an option),both will have support with apple pencil and latency of 16ms, down from 20ms

 

[NZBred]

I'll definitely upgrade. I'm expecting some pretty spectacular improvements to iPad in 2018. And it all starts with those incredible new bionic processors.

I use the larger screen for work/development and upgraded. As the previous owner of two 12.9" models, I was 75% sure I was going with the smaller 11" version 3rd time around. That was until I saw the new 12.9. Yes, it's still big; but easier to hold, lighter and smaller. Made me realize how unwieldy the last model was.

I do like the new iPad. The screen is amazing. The pen is awesome. The new keyboard is more responsive.

Three things I don't like:
1. In portrait mode, I keep knocking the pen off. Though strong magnet, landscape better.
2. I keep covering the camera with my left hand. This stops FaceID working. Found it better to turn the iPad 180degrees but then the pen is at the bottom. It's not a big issue, more just adapting as small bezels and big hands not ideal and
3. OMG, Hate this. The home button doesn't disappear in most apps. If watching movies at night on VLC or others, there is this bright white line at the bottom of the screen. I believe apps developers need to incl code so bar disappears after 1-2s. Seems like a MAJOR oversight. I am aware of the workaround through 'Guided Access', but still...for an $AUD2500 tablet, you want as few workarounds as possible

Overall, I'm happy with my decision to upgrade. The main advantage is the weight and size. That alone made it worthwhile, but wow, they are expensive.

 

[ninjahaiku]

Upgrade for me. I use my 2017 12.9” IPP on a daily basis for digital art and design. It makes me money so the extra power and the new Apple Pencil alone make it worth it. New 2018 12.9” will be here Friday. Woot.

 

[throAU]

Nope, not yet.

 

[kazmac]

Not now. Waiting on a 10.5 on sale. That will be my modus operandi going forward, waiting on sales.

I’ll use the Pro for art, school and general stuff, but I need to have a smaller size to take on the go.

 

[RickTaylor]

I have the original 12.9" iPad pro. So far I don't see a reason to upgrade it. I don't care about Face ID, and it does everything I need.