Haven't seen the race, but looking at the positions from 2 down I will now! Lewis did well. 13 second lead by Max, well better then the 30 seconds Lewis used to manage I guess?
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Haven't seen the race, but looking at the positions from 2 down I will now! Lewis did well. 13 second lead by Max, well better then the 30 seconds Lewis used to manage I guess?
I don't know if the W15 is more junk than it is slower than the rest. The W15 is essentially a brand new concept in year 1 while everyone is in year 3. It's not really competitive but I don't think anyone thought it would be. The big upgrades coming up will be telling what this new platform could be capable of heading into the new regulations which will still be based off of ground effect but with a new engine.
Yesterrday for some reason, the day was perfect, we had F1 in the early AM, then for the afternoon, 6 hours of Imola, and no question, 6 hours of Imola is 120 000 times better than 10 seasons of F1, way more action in 6 hours, and it was not for 1 second boring...
What made it even better was the commentary team, really way way way better than the graveyard dead team at Sky...
WEC 6 hours/24 hours, multi car category, is produced in a much more professional manner than F1, and and it was on youtube, you could find in car camera streams, or the same feed as I was watching live on the broadcaster here... Ant Davidson, and others on commentary, having access to teams/drivers/managers at a level superior to F1...
Not sure but F1 really should use WEC as a template, F1 has lost sight of who/what F1 is, if you want certain aspects of F1, you pay for them, for the rest, stick the event on youtube, there is no loss of revenue.. WEC is an FIA brand, says so on the watermark, on the youtube stream, so really if WEC is broadcast/streamed on youtube, then F1/F2/F3/Porsche Super-Cup should as well..
The best part of the 6 hours was the last 2 hours, when it started to rain, and the chaos, of teams having to decide on pit stops/tyres, stay out/change to wets.. The 2 very strong minded commentators, totally disagreeing, it was comedy gold, echo of Walkerism's a plenty.. Cars going off, the way WEC handles full course yellows, the broadcast count down to a full course yellow, then the count down to a lifting of..make for a way better event than the drier than dry rice cakes of F1... F1 should really improve the production..
What made it even better was the commentary team, really way way way better than the graveyard dead team at Sky...
WEC 6 hours/24 hours, multi car category, is produced in a much more professional manner than F1, and and it was on youtube, you could find in car camera streams, or the same feed as I was watching live on the broadcaster here... Ant Davidson, and others on commentary, having access to teams/drivers/managers at a level superior to F1...
Not sure but F1 really should use WEC as a template, F1 has lost sight of who/what F1 is, if you want certain aspects of F1, you pay for them, for the rest, stick the event on youtube, there is no loss of revenue.. WEC is an FIA brand, says so on the watermark, on the youtube stream, so really if WEC is broadcast/streamed on youtube, then F1/F2/F3/Porsche Super-Cup should as well..
The best part of the 6 hours was the last 2 hours, when it started to rain, and the chaos, of teams having to decide on pit stops/tyres, stay out/change to wets.. The 2 very strong minded commentators, totally disagreeing, it was comedy gold, echo of Walkerism's a plenty.. Cars going off, the way WEC handles full course yellows, the broadcast count down to a full course yellow, then the count down to a lifting of..make for a way better event than the drier than dry rice cakes of F1... F1 should really improve the production..
There is nothing wrong with you enjoying other race format. Just enjoy them, but please stop going on about turning F1 into them. Make you sound like those android people who want iOS to be more like android. Just switch off from F1 if you don't like it, there are clearly other series that you do like.
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WDC
Speaking of other series, IndyCar raced the Long Beach GP yesterday on what used to be an F1 street circuit until 1983. Pretty tight racing as always with IndyCar.
WCC
It's early but I'm beginning to think that not all teams will score a point this season... I'm looking at you Williams...
| 1 | RED BULL RACING HONDA RBPT | 195 |
| 2 | FERRARI | 151 |
| 3 | MCLAREN MERCEDES | 96 |
| 4 | MERCEDES | 52 |
| 5 | ASTON MARTIN ARAMCO MERCEDES | 40 |
| 6 | RB HONDA RBPT | 7 |
| 7 | HAAS FERRARI | 5 |
| 8 | WILLIAMS MERCEDES | 0 |
| 9 | ALPINE RENAULT | 0 |
| 10 | KICK SAUBER FERRARI | 0 |
It's early but I'm beginning to think that not all teams will score a point this season... I'm looking at you Williams...
Haha you don’t need to, I know I haven’t seen the race but deliberately read the F1 thread, I expect the results to be posted, don’t worry about it my friend, it would only be surprising if Max didn’t win 😂. I find my time very limited these days so may miss some races and read this thread anyway.
It was very racy. Incredible last laps charge by Dixon.
Another Honda Power Victory.....
Time will tell. I don't see any sign Mercedes has a clue as to the chassis. It's going on 3 Seasons. I remember Toto on the W14. "It will have different DNA than the W13". How did that go? Same for the W15. The car has genetic balance problems that can't be solved with Race Day adjustments. It needs a completely new chassis from the ground up.
Lewis saw the writing on the wall. He knows.
Mercedes saying they are bringing upgrades to Miami.
Let’s hope it’s a new engine, chassis and aero package.
Let’s hope it’s a new engine, chassis and aero package.
Fernando speaking the thoughts of most F1 drivers…..
www.planetf1.com
Fernando Alonso threatens to skip Miami Sprint with 'not worth it' claim after penalty
Fernando Alonso has questioned whether it's "worth" taking part in the next short race in Miami after his Chinese Sprint penalty.
www.planetf1.com
Not sure if you are being cheeky, but, how will a new Aero Package be decisive at a street circuit such as Miami? Miami is really about wing downforce. A new PU will only be beneficial if it can put the power down. Not really a W15 rear suspension strength.
Some schematics of next years RB21 would be nice too just to help. Maybe there’s a photocopying shop somewhere in Buckinghamshire that might have a spare copy?
I mean that's basically what the W15 is, most of it is different than the W13 and W14. But we will see with the upgrades in Miami and the big one for Imola. Right now, Mercedes is pretty much 3 years behind the rest of the grid with the W15. You could be right that Mercedes is absolutely clueless when it comes to ground effects but if they don't figure it out soon, no engine, no matter how good is going to overcome what has plagued the W13-W15 and it's going to be a long slump going into 2026 and onwards.
I agree. I think Mercedes has a good idea of what needs to be changed. It probably will be the W17?? in it's first incarnation. They are not going with a start from scratch chassis in 2025.
Something to look forward to is 2026 will be an outright crap shoot. You won't see any team perform like the RB18-RB21. RB included. I just hope it is watchable.
I thought there was some Cheeky in there. I do enjoy the posts from you and Real-Deal in the EV thread in here. Very knowledgeable. I won't go into the RAV4 PHEV Mrs. Glidelope and I own though......
My concern with 2026 is RBR will have a lot longer to develop it than the rest as they have all the advantage now and 2025.I agree. I think Mercedes has a good idea of what needs to be changed. It probably will be the W17?? in it's first incarnation. They are not going with a start from scratch chassis in 2025.
Something to look forward to is 2026 will be an outright crap shoot. You won't see any team perform like the RB18-RB21. RB included. I just hope it is watchable.
I thought there was some Cheeky in there. I do enjoy the posts from you and Real-Deal in the EV thread in here. Very knowledgeable. I won't go into the RAV4 PHEV Mrs. Glidelope and I own though......
On a slightly different topic, if you could choose any team to drive for except RBR which team would you choose to give you the best chance of winning?
I was thinking about Sainz and his possible options (assuming RBR isn’t an option). Which would you expect to get it right?
I acknowledge the RBR advantage in development time. So…..
If any team were available, not just current open seats, then I would want to be in the AMR26/Honda. I‘m hoping Lance doesn’t re-sign this week, but it’s not looking good for that. RBR is still talking to me, but they want me on the cheap. Toto keeps playing games with me…..
They changed this, teams can no longer start development of next year's car until a certain date. This will ensure that everyone starts at the same time should they choose to start on the earliest start date as possible.
But at this point, not sure how much it really even matters because 3 years in, RBR are still leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else so in terms of the 2026 regulations, they already have a starting point that is way ahead of everyone else.
The state of 2026 regulations is still in a state of flux after the unexpected Simulation Results with the 2 Stage Rear Wing, are they not?
RBR can only Model in a Simulation?
Nah, the Red Bull and Max is a dog...The W15 is definitely a bitch following the dog theme