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Batteries are a joke, they belong in the clown car league [e-prix] F1 is pure turning petrol into noise and speed..
Batteries belong in cellphones, laptops and "toys"... V10. V8, sexy.. Hybrids are stupid, they never worked, caused too many problems.. The cars are the size of buses now, so can run 400kmh at the temple of speed.. 120 litres, a bit of fuel management, 2/3 stops.. Now we are getting back to actual F1, we have been blessed with F2+ at the moment...
 
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Max's accomplishments are worthy of respect, but not admiration. He's good enough to not have to race that way, but he does anyway. Same situation as Schumacher, who didn't need to resort to the tactics he used, and be given the advantages he was granted.

I also find it amusing how the media has approached Lando vs. Oscar.

The former has been time and again been treated with kid gloves, with the narrative that "he'll get them next time, perhaps something is wrong with his car, and he'll figure it out and fulfill his potential." Still waiting on that one…

Oscar doesn't let Max intimidate him, wins the race, and the first question from the press is whether he can keep it up.

At some point McLaren will probably have to pick one or the other to put their weight behind. I wouldn't be surprised if they screw it up somehow.
 
Max's accomplishments are worthy of respect, but not admiration. He's good enough to not have to race that way, but he does anyway. Same situation as Schumacher, who didn't need to resort to the tactics he used, and be given the advantages he was granted.

I also find it amusing how the media has approached Lando vs. Oscar.

The former has been time and again been treated with kid gloves, with the narrative that "he'll get them next time, perhaps something is wrong with his car, and he'll figure it out and fulfill his potential." Still waiting on that one…

Oscar doesn't let Max intimidate him, wins the race, and the first question from the press is whether he can keep it up.

At some point McLaren will probably have to pick one or the other to put their weight behind. I wouldn't be surprised if they screw it up somehow.

I think we're one race away from that point... It's a long season I know but you can drag it out and barely win one or the other title or make a choice and blow folks away. Just MHO ...
 
What the FIA has lost sight of, is that F1 needs a brilliant villain, and a brilliant hero, you know the Hill v Schumacher, Prost v Senna, etc.. F1 is 99% soap opera, 1% UFC, it is all basically scripted, for tax reasons, they are taxed as entertainers..

Everyone and the family parrot takes F1 way too seriously, it is sports entertainment, it is yes I know real, but only to a point.. Mr Whatshisname, the MBS, the FIA head parrot, really he needs a great course of laxatives, maybe that will clear his foggy brain, constipation really does affect the brain..

I love the drama of F1, it is so much fun, to see who is stirring the pot, and Minimum is the best anti-hero we have had since Schumacher, Min is doing a wonderful job, especially against HAM.. I miss the ding dong all out bloodfest, that one race, HAM v Ros.. wow, every lap, you just knew it was going to end in tears, and it didn't..

Lando v Pies, that is tasty, that is what we want, strongwilled talented drivers, both competent enough to be WDC.. I miss the head to head, all season long wars.. Both in the WDC and the WCC..
 
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Anyone surprised... Why not just use Chev Avio engines? They are cheap, 3 cylinder 800cc.. Tiny cute little things, could have 2 or 3 per car, 2 for the front/back, and the third for the go fast electric turbo boost..
 
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Anyone surprised... Why not just use Chev Avio engines? They are cheap, 3 cylinder 800cc.. Tiny cute little things, could have 2 or 3 per car, 2 for the front/back, and the third for the go fast electric turbo boost..


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If the FIA and OEMs are discussing a new engine formula for 2029, then it doesn't make much sense for Cadillac to invest the time and money into an engine they get one year to run. So makes sense to me to "wait" until 2029 (since if the decision is made soonish to keep the current engine formula past 2030, GM could still maybe make 2028).
 
Teams should be mandated to run stock engines that any Joe or Jane can buy from any Walmart.. It should NOT be some fancy PHD special, bog stock... No fancy cpu.. the car has 3 pedals, it has a simple steering wheel, the car is driven by the driver, it does 400km, in 2 hours, it has NO internal battery, other than a small 4 cell AA battery for the protection of the load sensers and fire protection. Apart from that, ZERO technology, the driver drives the car, the only communication is a simple beep for yes, a double beep for NO.. The driver can hear his mechanic...

F1 is no longer about the driver, it is 99% the PHD's back in the UK, 0.5% the meat in the seat, and 0.5% the team in the pit... Ban the technology, ban DRS.. It should be mechanical with spanners and screwdrivers, ban device drivers and laptops... NO tech ports.. other than to download crash data and video.
 
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Teams should be mandated to run stock engines that any Joe or Jane can buy from any Walmart.. It should NOT be some fancy PHD special, bog stock... No fancy cpu.. the car has 3 pedals, it has a simple steering wheel, the car is driven by the driver, it does 400km, in 2 hours, it has NO internal battery, other than a small 4 cell AA battery for the protection of the load sensers and fire protection. Apart from that, ZERO technology, the driver drives the car, the only communication is a simple beep for yes, a double beep for NO.. The driver can hear his mechanic...

F1 is no longer about the driver, it is 99% the PHD's back in the UK, 0.5% the meat in the seat, and 0.5% the team in the pit... Ban the technology, ban DRS.. It should be mechanical with spanners and screwdrivers, ban device drivers and laptops... NO tech ports.. other than to download crash data and video.

If I wanted to watch road cars race, I would attend an SCCA event. :p

F1 has been about the technology since the 1980s.



The virtual in-car of that track from last year looks so dull...
 
Mad Ring is about the most accurate thing I have seen in F1 since 2011... It is insane, this is about as bad the crappy stupid A1 circuit we had here..
 
Teams should be mandated to run stock engines that any Joe or Jane can buy from any Walmart.. It should NOT be some fancy PHD special, bog stock... No fancy cpu.. the car has 3 pedals, it has a simple steering wheel, the car is driven by the driver, it does 400km, in 2 hours, it has NO internal battery, other than a small 4 cell AA battery for the protection of the load sensers and fire protection. Apart from that, ZERO technology, the driver drives the car, the only communication is a simple beep for yes, a double beep for NO.. The driver can hear his mechanic...

F1 is no longer about the driver, it is 99% the PHD's back in the UK, 0.5% the meat in the seat, and 0.5% the team in the pit... Ban the technology, ban DRS.. It should be mechanical with spanners and screwdrivers, ban device drivers and laptops... NO tech ports.. other than to download crash data and video.
I kinda agree...
 
I kinda agree...
Thanks, I really have this feeling that back in ye olden days, 2021, Baku, car 44 maybe would have won the race and title had he not had the technology that he approved the position of the button that cost him a title..

F1 should be about the meat in the seat, F1 should not be "who has the best mobile win11 server" right now F1 cars have more computer tech than most Walmarts have on the floor..

What do I know, I just miss the old loud mechanical days, tech is great but it has now become so sanitized, so artificial, that it has lost purpose...

The problem with F1 is that all teams are heading towards the same design, all cars will have to be exactly the same.. Physics.. we know this from the Concorde. Delta wings and all that, there is only 1 right answer, and you cannot avoid this..

You have 10 teams, and 10 teams with 10 solidwork subscriptions.. Ouch, you can see where this is going.. I seem to recall there was some issue with some industry, everyone had the same fault.. it turned out they all used the same CAD, or was it a movie.. I remember know, it was a plane crash, and the investigators were trying to figure out, no acutally it was the fire in the UK train station.. About flashover fires, the boffins created the layout in software, and had the fire burn, and it did something they did not expect a low fire, it burned low and fast.. When they reviewed the processed data, this confused them, did they input the data for gravity as negative.. So they checked and re-processed..

100% correct, then they built a 75% to scale model, and set that on fire, and 100% from the high speed, exactly as the computer model had predicted...

So with Solidworks being what everyone uses, Fluid Dynamics being coded with the same data across 10 licences.. A=A.. So as each team works to solve aerodynamic issues, each team is using the same exact software, they will derive the same answer.. And problem.. engine is maxxed out, aero maxed out.. the only variable.. the weight of the meat in the seat.. We have a minimum weight of driver and car.. So if you have the pilot at 80kg, and another at 85... Who is WDC? So do we ban anyone that is more than 1kg heavier, as they cannot win..A car that is 800kg will travel faster than a car that is 805kg..

How do we mitigate for this? That is a solved problem.. had it for at least 300 yrs.. Handicapping.. Donkey racing.. Jockeys and donkeys are weighed and each jockey has to carry ballast to compensate, then it is up to the fitness of the mule and the jockey to encourage the nag..

What do we want F1 to be? Right now, it is chaos, it is neither here nor there, it is confused.. Which direction to take, this or that, what?
 
Thanks, I really have this feeling that back in ye olden days, 2021, Baku, car 44 maybe would have won the race and title had he not had the technology that he approved the position of the button that cost him a title..

F1 should be about the meat in the seat, F1 should not be "who has the best mobile win11 server" right now F1 cars have more computer tech than most Walmarts have on the floor..

What do I know, I just miss the old loud mechanical days, tech is great but it has now become so sanitized, so artificial, that it has lost purpose...

The problem with F1 is that all teams are heading towards the same design, all cars will have to be exactly the same.. Physics.. we know this from the Concorde. Delta wings and all that, there is only 1 right answer, and you cannot avoid this..

You have 10 teams, and 10 teams with 10 solidwork subscriptions.. Ouch, you can see where this is going.. I seem to recall there was some issue with some industry, everyone had the same fault.. it turned out they all used the same CAD, or was it a movie.. I remember know, it was a plane crash, and the investigators were trying to figure out, no acutally it was the fire in the UK train station.. About flashover fires, the boffins created the layout in software, and had the fire burn, and it did something they did not expect a low fire, it burned low and fast.. When they reviewed the processed data, this confused them, did they input the data for gravity as negative.. So they checked and re-processed..

100% correct, then they built a 75% to scale model, and set that on fire, and 100% from the high speed, exactly as the computer model had predicted...

So with Solidworks being what everyone uses, Fluid Dynamics being coded with the same data across 10 licences.. A=A.. So as each team works to solve aerodynamic issues, each team is using the same exact software, they will derive the same answer.. And problem.. engine is maxxed out, aero maxed out.. the only variable.. the weight of the meat in the seat.. We have a minimum weight of driver and car.. So if you have the pilot at 80kg, and another at 85... Who is WDC? So do we ban anyone that is more than 1kg heavier, as they cannot win..A car that is 800kg will travel faster than a car that is 805kg..

How do we mitigate for this? That is a solved problem.. had it for at least 300 yrs.. Handicapping.. Donkey racing.. Jockeys and donkeys are weighed and each jockey has to carry ballast to compensate, then it is up to the fitness of the mule and the jockey to encourage the nag..

What do we want F1 to be? Right now, it is chaos, it is neither here nor there, it is confused.. Which direction to take, this or that, what?
Agreed again. I say I'd like a little "de-evolution". I love the safety measures to protect the drivers. So I'd keep that.

I miss the huge difference in body styles though.
 
Agreed again. I say I'd like a little "de-evolution". I love the safety measures to protect the drivers. So I'd keep that.

I miss the huge difference in body styles though.

100 000% behind you on that. Yes the safety aspects cannot remove that, but the tech, most it can go in the bin
. I miss the radical take it to the limit of the rules and maybe a pixel over... Now it is all the same, the cars look the same, might as well call it F2+ . F1 it is not..
 
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Interesting. I had no idea George and Red Bull have had informal conversations regarding 2026? The Circus in full burner well before summer...

Well if Max jumps to Mercedes, George pretty much has to jump to Red Bull, so it makes sense that George's management would at least be getting feelers for what Red Bull would be willing to offer.
 
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As with most things, much of the blame can be laid at the feet of the FIA. When the ground-effects rules were implemented in 2022, the FIA announced that they would be very aggressive on aero outwash ("dirty air") from the front wings, wheels and front suspension because they knew how much it could potentially impact trailing car performance over time as the teams developed their aero packages. This is why we lost a lot of the barge boards, complex wing geometries, winglets and other things.

But the teams will be teams and they found creative "interpretations" that allowed them to bring back that outwash and the FIA mostly just let it happen. And instead of fighting to rein in outwash again, they instead ban the tricks like "flexi-wings" and "mini-DRS" that teams developed to help them get closer in that outwash.
 
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You have 1 kg of flour, 3 eggs, 1 litre of milk, you can make the cake in any shape, but you will still have the same weight of baked cake...

The FIA needs to learn about physics.. It is the same in London as it is in Bahrain, or Melbourne.. What the problem is, as the teams near the pinnacle, or the natural end of the development of aerodynamics, we will start to experience more and more frustration at the lack of overtaking..

The only way teams can win, is either, having 10 or 15 pitstops per race, randomize weather, or employing the lightest drives legally confirmed to drive, any driver as much as 1kg heavier than any other driver in the race, might as well be banned, as talent is not enough to overcome physics..

We have a science problem in F1.. Teams are chasing a phantom.. They are going to realize, that the Tupolev Tu-144 was the birth of the realization of the death of Formula 1...

Formula 1 can only go down 1 path of development, and this ends in a cul du saq.. There is no debate, we saw this with the TU 144/Concorde.. or you could say Nylon predicted the death of Formula 1...

At least from a development path, teams are just churning the water, but going now-where, all the teams use the same software, as there is only 1, air is air, wind tunnels are the same, you know going in, Mclaren, Hass, Red cows, William's, all the teams know going to wind test is pointless.. If they don't then they maybe shouldn't bother..

We have gone too far past the point of development, "dirty air" is the proof of a dead formula.. All the cars look the same for a reason.. We no longer have a viable formula, we have F2+ might as well race the same car, with 20 humans, the result at the end of the year is 90% fate, and 10% talent..

It makes no sense why teams are still chasing the dragon. It died a long time ago.. At what point will it dawn on the FIA that science=science, how can a team prove they did not cheat or use spying to copy, when we know this from Nylon and Concorde/Tu 144???
 
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