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smckenzie

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Would anyone be kind enough with a 24 or 28 core 7,1 mind running Cinebench 2024 for. benchmark?

I have a 16-core and trying to find out the difference.
 

cobra521

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Here's mine:

Cinebench 3275m.jpg
 

Regulus67

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I tried to run Cinebench R23 and Cinebench 2024, on my 16-core, with Monterey. But a bug, or error, prevents it.
Cinebench R23 runs fine on my iMac Pro, also with Monterey.
The problem in my case is that the licence window is empty. I got a warning about plugins the first time. And I have tried re-installing three times.
Apple App store offers only Cinebench R23 (in my case).

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Cinebench 2024 plugins.png


Did you run a test on your 16-core smckenzie?
 

smckenzie

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Cinebench 2024 is fine on mine.

I've had empty plugin windows before, specifically a Photoshop plugin, the Autodesk account manager and the Maya launch screen. Drove me nuts until I plugged the display into a different MPX module (I have 2x 6800x Duo's) and all was fine.
 
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AndreeOnline

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Would anyone be kind enough with a 24 or 28 core 7,1 mind running Cinebench 2024 for. benchmark?

I have a 16-core and trying to find out the difference.
The question is if you can find an upgrade for a decent price.

For a long time they were hovering around $1200. The last few times I looked (many months between) there was almost nothing out there. A few "new" for $5-6000 or whatever....
 

smckenzie

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The question is if you can find an upgrade for a decent price.

For a long time they were hovering around $1200. The last few times I looked (many months between) there was almost nothing out there. A few "new" for $5-6000 or whatever....
There's been a steady few on eBay, pulls from existing machines. Right now 24-cores are around $1600 and $2500 for the 28-core. The 24-core seems the better buy seen as it's pretty close in terms of performance to the 28 core on Cinebench.

How either translates to real world use is another thing. The I9 14900-KF I have screams, everything is very snappy and it chews through renders. Main downside is cooling it as it thermal throttles right now. That's where the MacPro is good.

The CGI Director website has the 14900KF scoring 2200 on Cinebench but I don't think that's real world. Mine scores around 1620, so like an M1 Ultra. Googling around those that got higher scores had to overclock and in one case you liquid nitrogen to cool it lol. I need system stability, not hero scores.
 

Regulus67

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I ran a few tests on a second Mac Pro with Sonoma 14.5
With a 16-core CPU, and two graphic cards for comparison.

Cinebench R23

Cinebench R23 CPU.png


Cinebench 2024
Radeon Pro Vega II

Cinebench 2024 Vega II metal.png


Radeon Pro W6800X Duo (first time I heard a fan ramp up on the Mac Pro)

2024-05-30 Cinebench 2024 W6800X Duo.png
 
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smckenzie

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@Regulus67 Thanks for that. Sadly the $600-800 RTX4070 Ti Super well outperforms the Duo's. Two of them are only just behind a 4090 in the Redshift benchmark. At one point I could get a 30k+ score in Cinebench 2024 with 2x 6900XT's via eGPU's but since Sonoma eGPU's have become really unstable, so can't use them.
 

Regulus67

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@Regulus67 Thanks for that. Sadly the $600-800 RTX4070 Ti Super well outperforms the Duo's. Two of them are only just behind a 4090 in the Redshift benchmark. At one point I could get a 30k+ score in Cinebench 2024 with 2x 6900XT's via eGPU's but since Sonoma eGPU's have become really unstable, so can't use them.
Not surprising really. Nvidia has the better cards.

I posted here, as it was already discussing Cinebench scores. And I am testing a 24-core at this moment.
 

smckenzie

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So glad you were able to test the 24C - it's really not that far off the 28C in Cinebench, and around half the price used!
 

Regulus67

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So glad you were able to test the 24C - it's really not that far off the 28C in Cinebench, and around half the price used!
It certainly is. I purchased mine new from China on ebay for just over $1000.
Very happy with that.

Is it really brand new, I have no way of telling. But is a genuine part
 

smckenzie

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Sweet - I've been keeping an eye on the prices. They got a bit sparse for a bit but more are appearing and the prices have come down a bit. That's really helped me out, so thanks!
 
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smckenzie

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I think my 16 core scores around 1100 or something in Cinebench 2024 - so a score of 1500 or so is a 40% boost or so?
 

avro707

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Sweet - I've been keeping an eye on the prices. They got a bit sparse for a bit but more are appearing and the prices have come down a bit. That's really helped me out, so thanks!
Just keep watching.

The W3275M is worth it, very strong performing processor. I’m very happy with mine.

The GPU situation is crazy, a W7900 would be ideal if Apple would support it in Sonoma. But no, instead they happily give us bugs with NVME PCI-E storage.
 

smckenzie

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Just keep watching.

The W3275M is worth it, very strong performing processor. I’m very happy with mine.

The GPU situation is crazy, a W7900 would be ideal if Apple would support it in Sonoma. But no, instead they happily give us bugs with NVME PCI-E storage.
Two things that concern me with the 28c - single core speed and price. I use my 7,1 for rendering with Cinema 4D. The viewport, simulations and pretty much any other task is all on the single core so I'm wondering how that would all perform given the base clock is quite a bit slower than the 16c. Whilst the price is going down a little, it's still hard to go for when I have a PC with a I9 14900KF in it.
 

avro707

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Only game I have in Windows is Flight Simulator. I don't do much gaming.

It's pretty pointless using that - it only uses 1.5 processor cores. You might as well have a dual core 10ghz CPU if one was available. :rolleyes: It's like old MS Flight Sim X which was the same. Microsoft bet that processors would keep going to higher clock speeds rather than going more and more multi-core. I was involved with FSX back at those times.

What benchmarks are you looking for?
 

Rimmsi

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I play Diablo 2 Resurrected, Age Of Empires series and Counter Strike 2 in 4k 120Hz. I'm most interested in what the difference is between a 12c and a 24(28)c CPU when the top models have a lower base clock.
 

avro707

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In Flight Simulator there is no difference at all between a 16 core and 28 core. It's not slower - but not faster either. It might be different if they supported more cores, which the rumour says they will with 2024 version. One thing, there are never any stuttering effects or slowdowns - the frame rates remain very stable.

I don't have the others - but I would guess they will be similar.
 
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