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24" owners with a good screen, please post a pic!

WBryan said:
Leon -

Have you returned your aluminum iMac yet? If you have, why are you continuing to be so obsessed with this screen gradient? Anyone that is looking to buy a new iMac will surely see one of the many posts you have on this topic. For those that actually want to pull out the light meter and measure their screens, they will get the real results and appreciate your information and knowledge.

I am just curious to see why you keep posting on this topic over and over? What are you trying to do?

I for one have no intention of using a light meter on my iMac and I bet most people won't! Yes, I spent over $2,000 for this machine and if there is a small screen gradient issue, I am still happy with my overall experience. If the problem was so bad that I actually noticed this problem, I would go back to apple and get a refund.

Your smart a** replies and attempts at making everyone else look stupid for even considering buying an aluminum iMac are really pointless! Please upgrade to the white iMac as you put it and leave it already! Be glad you don't have the aluminum iMac then!

I LOVE MY iMAC!!!! (For all those that are scared off by light meter readings):apple:
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I will second that, good post :)
 
mavis said:
As has already been said, you're boring us. Why don't you just NOT get an iMac and be done with it? Or better still: get a life, instead of spending countless hours with your multi-quote posts which are repetitive and lacking in substance - I mean, don't you have anything better to do with your time? It's laughable (and sad and pathetic) that you don't. ;)

posted from a 24" iMac with a good screen
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Here here, I will second this post as well, good post :)
 
qom said:
Boys, boys!
Where are the pictures? Calm down a bit :)
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LOL, I'd have to agree with the other posters at this point though. :) I mean, if it is really bothering someone THAT much, uh, just don't buy the iMac! :)

I think many, also need to realize, that, as everyone always states, you see more complaints on boards like these then you EVER will praise. It's just the nature of the internet and message boards in general. I'm sure for every "I got a bad one" post out there, there are dozens of folks that are completely happy with their screens.
 
Alu iMac No.3 due to arrive on Friday (wonder if it will include Leopard ?)

Anyhow, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one - went a different route this time and ordered the 24" 2.4GHZ and upgraded it to the 2.8 with 500GB HD. (Initially thought that this one may be handled differently at the production end but on reflection, guess that they will send out a stock 2.8 with just the one stick of RAM).

So - I'll keep an eye out for condensation and try not to look at the screen too closely :rolleyes: !

...and I'll post some pics if I find anything particularly unusual or particularly pleasing.

Just had to give it one more go - would be really bad luck to get three 'dirty' units in a row!

C'mon :apple: !

Kuska
 
HLdan said:
Ditto, but I wish they were large enough to be my desktop wallpaper.:D
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Below each photo, there are sizes you can choose. I believe it defaults to large, but if you click on "original", you'll get a larger photo to view and download. and thanks for the nice comments. I love my new iMac. . .
 
KeithnFW said:
Below each photo, there are sizes you can choose. I believe it defaults to large, but if you click on "original", you'll get a larger photo to view and download. and thanks for the nice comments. I love my new iMac. . .
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Perfect, that works! Thanks for sharing! I love my new iMac too.:D
 
Here's some perspective

Here's some perspective on all of these screen issues. Here are a few more "screen shots" just to demonstrate how you can drive yourself nuts taken pictures of your screen and then analyzing them in Photoshop:


Picture of the white wall behind my Mac with no flash:

alum_imac7.jpg





Same wall with flash on:

alum_imac8.jpg



Side by side of left edge and right edge of white wall with flash off:

alum_imac9.jpg


Hmmmmm - my perfectly white wall has a gradient issue. Weird, huh? I think this proves the issues with posting photos, and analyzing them. I am not saying that there are not people out there with issues and that they don't photgraph well - they do, I have seen them, and I sincerely feel bad for those who got them, and hope they get their problems resolved.

But this business of asking someone to post a screen shot of a good working iMac, and then photoshopping to show a gradient under certain lighting conditions and with a "solid color" has got to stop. It's flawed. Plain and simple. Even a perfectly white wall shows up with a gradient in those conditions. If the screen looks consisent to your eyes when you are sitting in front of it, count yourself as blessed that you got a good one. Don't let some of the fools around here convice you that there is something wrong because a slight gradient shows up on a photo in photoshop.

BTW - here's my 24" iMac. Looks beautiful to me. If you photoshop you will notice a very slight gradient (its in the photo only - not reality, btw). I did the solid grey photo and side-by-side in photoshop too. The slight gradient is less than the one that shows up in a photo on my Apple Cinema display and my white wall. When I am sitting right in front of it, it looks perfect, you can't see any gradients at all in color or brightness. I am thrilled with this gorgeous machine!!!

alum_imac6.jpg
 
I can only say WOW

I have patiently waited since March, reading and researching, to make the big jump from my windows desktop to :apple:. My 24" iMac's screen is simply stunning. Viewed at a good sitting distance I don't see anything to detract from just WOW: no pixels out, no left-to-right color/brightness distortion, and no glare affecting my view. I'm transitioning away from a 17" perfectly good CRT, so I was pretty spoiled with color accuracy and sharpness from angles. I've honestly only been delighted.

Apologize I can't link up a picture -- I don't have any URL to link it from.
 
I keep reading posts that insult people who weren't satisfied with their bad imac screen as being too picky. If it isn't actually a problem, why does apple accept them back as returns and slap a DOA sticker on it like they did for me 2 times. As soon as the genius guy fired up the 2 24" imacs I returned, he noticed the same bad backlighting and yellow tinting that I did. Don't call me (and many others) picky for simply wanting uniform (or at least CLOSE to it) backlighting and for whites to be white across the whole screen. those who are happy with their product, thats great, but why are those who aren't the bad guys??
 
footballboy3 said:
I keep reading posts that insult people who weren't satisfied with their bad imac screen as being too picky. If it isn't actually a problem, why does apple accept them back as returns and slap a DOA sticker on it like they did for me 2 times. As soon as the genius guy fired up the 2 24" imacs I returned, he noticed the same bad backlighting and yellow tinting that I did. Don't call me (and many others) picky for simply wanting uniform (or at least CLOSE to it) backlighting and for whites to be white across the whole screen. those who are happy with their product, thats great, but why are those who aren't the bad guys??
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I would never mean to insult someone who has a bad one and it is obvious and you can see it right away when you turn it on and use it. I am tired of those who take someone who has a perfectly good screen and claims that it must be bad, because "they are all bad" and that people with good one just don't see the problem.

I believe that the problem is isolated, but very unfortunate for those who have it. I also believe that the extent of the problem can get exaggerated in the forums.
 
czachorski said:
Here's some perspective on all of these screen issues. Here are a few more "screen shots" just to demonstrate how you can drive yourself nuts taken pictures of your screen and then analyzing them in Photoshop:

Picture of the white wall behind my Mac with no flash:

Same wall with flash on:

Side by side of left edge and right edge of white wall with flash off:

Hmmmmm - my perfectly white wall has a gradient issue. Weird, huh? I think this proves the issues with posting photos, and analyzing them. I am not saying that there are not people out there with issues and that they don't photgraph well - they do, I have seen them, and I sincerely feel bad for those who got them, and hope they get their problems resolved.
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People with gradient/uniform backlight issues should use your pictures of the wall as their wallpaper. It would cancel out the problems. Or they should take pictures of their 24" iMac and use that image as their wallpaper, then take another picture of the wallpaper....just keep on going until you're bored. Best idea I've had all day, maybe all week.
 
czachorski said:
Here's some perspective on all of these screen issues. Here are a few more "screen shots" just to demonstrate how you can drive yourself nuts taken pictures of your screen and then analyzing them in Photoshop:
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Not that I am doubting you, because you bring up a good point. How do you explain the light metering differences given by Leon "I can't drop this conversation" whatever his last name is?

It would be interesting to take a light meter to your wall :p Are you sure one side of it isn't closer to a light or another hallway with a light source?
:D
 
Mindflux said:
Not that I am doubting you, because you bring up a good point. How do you explain the light metering differences given by Leon "I can't drop this conversation" whatever his last name is?

It would be interesting to take a light meter to your wall :p Are you sure one side of it isn't closer to a light or another hallway with a light source?
:D
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I don't dispute that he got a bad one, and that there are bad ones out there with 100% - 250% variation in brightness. I am disputing the validity of the claims that every single iMac has the problem, even ones that look perfectly fine to the owner.
 
czachorski said:
I don't dispute that he got a bad one, and that there are bad ones out there with 100% - 250% variation in brightness. I am disputing the validity of the claims that every single iMac has the problem, even ones that look perfectly fine to the owner.
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Apparently he got 3 bad ones, and then tested 4 more in store?

I've got a 24" iMac coming tomorrow. I hope that I don't have the yellowing or the gradient problem.

:(
 
czachorski said:
Hmmmmm - my perfectly white wall has a gradient issue. Weird, huh? I think this proves the issues with posting photos, and analyzing them.

But this business of asking someone to post a screen shot of a good working iMac, and then photoshopping to show a gradient under certain lighting conditions and with a "solid color" has got to stop.
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It's easy enough to test for camera artifacts -- and to minimize or avoid them if they actually exist.

What happens to that wall photo if you change the camera orientation?

What happens if you back up and use a longer focal length?

If the camera really is at fault, does any area of the frame have good uniformity?

For example, in your first wall shot, there appears to be a very uniform broad vertical stripe down the center of the frame. You could avoid camera artifacts (if any) by taking your screen photos with the camera in portrait orientation. The 24" iMac display has only 2 megapixels -- so you lose absolutely nothing by cropping-away 75% of the fame of an 8 megapixel camera. And you don't need nearly 2 Mp to demonstrate uniformity -- one tenth of that would be more than sufficient.

Bottom line: You CAN get an artifact-free screen photo -- IF you want one.

...a poor workman always blames his tools,

LK
 
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