27" 1080p IPS monitor vs 2560x1440?

[talmy]

May I ask your age?
You are obviously not older nor is your vision less than very good.

For us older folks, _less_ resolution "is more" -- because it's simply easier to see.

Not the person you questioned, but,

I'm 64 and have a pair of "Computer glasses" that focus at 24". I can use all the resolution I can get. I also feel that 1080P in a 27" display is grainy. I love my 27" iMac and 15" high-res MBP.

With my conventional bifocals, it's very difficult to see the display. Major case of eye strain!

Of course eye disease, at any age, will cause problems. In that case, frankly, Microsoft Windows is the way to go because of superior scaling abilities.

 

[paulrbeers]

"I find that the 95-105 dpi range is ideal. 27" 1080p monitors are 81. That's absolutely crap. The pixels are so big at normal desk usage that you can see the jagged text."

May I ask your age?
You are obviously not older nor is your vision less than very good.

For us older folks, _less_ resolution "is more" -- because it's simply easier to see.

What doesn't work for you may work quite well for someone else.

BTW -- did you know that when the first Macs were introduced, much was made of the fact that the screen was 72dpi, true "what you see is what you get" (on paper) ??

I'm 32 years old but the eye sight of a 60 year old. I wear a very strong contact and reading glasses. I had a 27" iMac for awhile but it's DPI of 108 was too small for my eyes. However one advantage of high dpi monitors is the ability to lower the output resolution and use scaling to give a much better image so even if you need a lower resolution you can still take some advantage of the higher res display (granted windows does a better job of this than OSX tho).

As far as 72dpi, if we were still using 72dpi printers than this might hold water but.... Even my old laser printer has an effective dpi well over 300.

 

[Che Castro]

So what you guys are saying , text at 1440p will look smaller so if you have bad eyes 1080p will be much better for you

I think I'm going to get the Dell S2740L 1080p monitor

 

[EvilEvil]

Hey,
I'm looking to buy a new display for my 2013 Mac Mini.
I'm afraid if I go with the 2560x1440 it might not work, some people have issued some complaints..

Anyone who has worked with 27" of both resolutions can tell me which one to go with?

Wait so there are reported issues with the Apple 27 inch Cinema Display?

 

[paulrbeers]

Wait so there are reported issues with the Apple 27 inch Cinema Display?

No. There is no issue with 1440P displays unless it doesn't have Displayport or Mini-displayport. In that case you have to use a Dual DVI adapter which seems to have limited success.

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So what you guys are saying , text at 1440p will look smaller so if you have bad eyes 1080p will be much better for you

I think I'm going to get the Dell S2740L 1080p monitor

Save you money then and go with S2340L or S2440L. The text will still be fairly large, but won't look like Super Mario Brothers Circa 1987. This is precisely why I use 23" 1080P monitors. Still decent looking text, but the images are still large enough not to cause strain on my eyes. At my office I use 2 22"-1080P, and at home I use 3-23" 1080P.

 

[Che Castro]

So a 27" 1080p text looks horrible ?

 

[talmy]

So a 27" 1080p text looks horrible ?

Only Fishrrman in this thread has given a "heads up" to 27" 1080p. Everyone else says either a smaller 1080p or 2560x1440 27" is the way to go because of the poor resolution of the 27" 1080p.

 

[jhfenton]

So a 27" 1080p text looks horrible ?

It depends on the display, really. I have a 27" AOC 1080p IPS LED that I think looks really good. Text is larger than it needs to be, but it looks good. I used it with my Mac mini (Late 2012) briefly, before I got a 27" 1440p display. The 27" AOC 1080p moved to the family Dell PC, where it still looks good.

Of course, I prefer the 27" 1440p display.

 

[fig]

It depends on the display, really. I have a 27" AOC 1080p IPS LED that I think looks really good. Text is larger than it needs to be, but it looks good. I used it with my Mac mini (Late 2012) briefly, before I got a 27" 1440p display. The 27" AOC 1080p moved to the family Dell PC, where it still looks good.

Of course, I prefer the 27" 1440p display.

Slightly off topic, but any other thoughts on that AOC display? I'm buying a mini in a week or two and was seriously considering the AOC 2367 (23" 1080p). Thanks.

 

[ZaYoOoD]

Ok, I am torn

1080p 27"
Pros:
-Cheaper
-Guaranteed to work with Mini
-Doesn't need Dual DVI to MDP adapter
-Looks slicker with a more beautiful design

Cons:
-Obviously a bad resolution at 1080p in a 27" display

1440p 27"
Pros:
-A great resolution for the future

Cons:
-May not work, even with the Dual DVI to MDP adapter
-More expensive
-Bad design!

 

[talmy]

1440p 27"
Cons:
-May not work, even with the Dual DVI to MDP adapter
-Bad design!

That's only because you are looking at the crap 1440p 27" monitors. The good ones will work just fine with a DP to MDP cable and have great designs.

Just buy a smaller monitor if you want 1080p.

 

[ZaYoOoD]

That's only because you are looking at the crap 1440p 27" monitors. The good ones will work just fine with a DP to MDP cable and have great designs.

Just buy a smaller monitor if you want 1080p.

Any recommendations?

 

[talmy]

Any recommendations?

For 27"? Check out Dell and watch for sales.

For smaller 1080p? Tons of choices these days since it's pretty much a standard feature. Just make sure it's IPS.

 

[ZaYoOoD]

For 27"? Check out Dell and watch for sales.

For smaller 1080p? Tons of choices these days since it's pretty much a standard feature. Just make sure it's IPS.

Actually I don't like the dell sharp design.. Besides, it doesn't have any of the Thunderbolt display features "iSight...".

I thought about paying 1000$ for the TB display, however it would be unwise to pay that much for Mac Mini+TB Display.. it would be more expensive than the 27" iMac!

 

[talmy]

I thought about paying 1000$ for the TB display, however it would be unwise to pay that much for Mac Mini+TB Display.. it would be more expensive than the 27" iMac!

Which is why I've got a 27" iMac! My 3 minis connect to a 40" TV, 22" LCD monitor (Viewsonic), and nothing, respectively.

 

[jhfenton]

Slightly off topic, but any other thoughts on that AOC display? I'm buying a mini in a week or two and was seriously considering the AOC 2367 (23" 1080p). Thanks.

I really like the one I have. It's an AOC I2757FH. For $269 at the time, I thought it was a great deal, because the 1440p $399 Auria wasn't an option yet, or at least I didn't know about it. And a name-brand $700+ 27" 1440p monitor wasn't in my self-imposed budget. Fast forward a couple months, and I ended up with both and just moved the AOC 27" to the family computer and moved the family 23" Acer 1080p up to be the Mac mini's second monitor.

For a 27" 1080p, I think the AOC is great. Text is clear and smooth on both the Mac mini and a late 2011 Dell desktop running Windows 8. The color and brightness are outstanding. Viewing angles are great. The built-in speakers are predictably terrible. The on-screen displays are typical. The build-quality seems good. The frame and body are attractive and blend in well with a Mac mini. It's not really a borderless display, but it's still a pretty narrow border and frame around the screen.

The 2367 looks like a shrunken version of the 2757, so I would assume the quality is the same.

John

 

[matixryder]

Hello

You should check out some Korean Monitors on Ebay. I have a 2560x1440 Crossover Monitor and I love it. The picture quality is very similar to a Thunderbolt display. You can also buy 2560x1600 with a lil bit more budget.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pix...5952?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item4d09c08dd0. The only weakness of these monitors are the cheap casing material, bu the LCD panel quality is excellent.

 

[ZaYoOoD]

You should check out some Korean Monitors on Ebay. I have a 2560x1440 Crossover Monitor and I love it. The picture quality is very similar to a Thunderbolt display. You can also buy 2560x1600 with a lil bit more budget.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pix...5952?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item4d09c08dd0. The only weakness of these monitors are the cheap casing material, bu the LCD panel quality is excellent.

The question is, do they work? What is your set up?

 

[matixryder]

I'm sorry I just do some research. They say the my monitor does not work on mac mini since it requires dedicate VGA. I am using a hackintosh btw.

 

[fig]

I really like the one I have. It's an AOC I2757FH. For $269 at the time, I thought it was a great deal, because the 1440p $399 Auria wasn't an option yet, or at least I didn't know about it. And a name-brand $700+ 27" 1440p monitor wasn't in my self-imposed budget. Fast forward a couple months, and I ended up with both and just moved the AOC 27" to the family computer and moved the family 23" Acer 1080p up to be the Mac mini's second monitor.

For a 27" 1080p, I think the AOC is great. Text is clear and smooth on both the Mac mini and a late 2011 Dell desktop running Windows 8. The color and brightness are outstanding. Viewing angles are great. The built-in speakers are predictably terrible. The on-screen displays are typical. The build-quality seems good. The frame and body are attractive and blend in well with a Mac mini. It's not really a borderless display, but it's still a pretty narrow border and frame around the screen.

The 2367 looks like a shrunken version of the 2757, so I would assume the quality is the same.

John

Great info, thanks. The 2367 has been getting stellar reviews so sounds like it's a pretty similar quality.

The initial reason I was drawn to it was the Apple-esque aesthetic you mentioned, I looked at the 2757 in Best Buy and it's a great look. At $149 the 23" is a steal, looks like that'll be the choice and we'll see how it goes.

Appreciate it!

 

[barkmonster]

I would personally spend the money on 2 23- inch monitors.

I second that idea. My plan is to retire my 19" LCD once I can afford to replace my 24" LED TV/Monitor with a 42"+ sized LED TV and then mount the 24" and 23" on a Vesa stand.

If IPS is the goal, 2 x 23" IPS monitors would offer more screen area and there's devices from Matrox that allow dual display from 1 Displayport/Thunderbolt output at up to 1920 x 1200 x 2. Perfect for using them with a laptop if you get a Macbook at a later date.

I don't see the point in higher than 23" unless it's mounted quite far away from where you sit. You gain no more desktop area and it's simply a waste of space that could be used for a 2560 x 1440 display. (My TV, an LG M2432, is quite slimline and light compared with the 23" Flatron W2343T on my Mac, they're about the same width including the outer bezel).

 

[RoastingPig]

the u2713hm goes as low as 500 bucks so watch out for sales anything under 550 is a great deal, thats when i got my second one the first one i got for about 650

 

[fig]

Just to add a bit more info, got the AOC i2367Fh and hooked it up to my new Mini via HDMI and it looks awesome. Running at 1080p is the perfect size on a 23" IMO.

 

[MJL]

Or get the Dell U2913WM, 29" HDTV (2560x1080). I just ordered one (was on special, unfortunately not wide gamut. However important for me: no PWM.) It is the same as two 23" 1280x 1080 next to each other without the annoying bezel in the middle.

 

[paulrbeers]

Or get the Dell U2913WM, 29" HDTV (2560x1080). I just ordered one (was on special, unfortunately not wide gamut. However important for me: no PWM.) It is the same as two 23" 1280x 1080 next to each other without the annoying bezel in the middle.

Ummm, no it isn't. It's equivalent to two 17" 1280 x 1024 monitors side by side.

A 4:3 17" monitor is 13.5 x 10.5 and a 29" ultra widescreen (like the dell U2913) is 27" x 10.5". So your 29" monitor is two small 17" 4:3's without the bezel. In order to have 2 - 23" 4:3's your ultra wide screen would have to be something like a 40" ultrawide screen monitor.

Furthermore, 1280 x 1024 on a 23" monitor would look like crud. It'd have a worse DPI than a 27" 1080P monitor!