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2TB fusion or 512 GB SSD (Lightroom and programming)
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I bought a 960gb SSD for external use for my rMBP. It was selling 199$ on amazon.. using that + 512gb internal SSD is a good combo. I will never have a mechanical drive in an enclosure I can't open or service myself. My HDD broke in my iMac 2008 after 2 years. They fail very rapidly.
That sounds like bad luck, not the norm. The only hard drive I have ever had that failed on me was dropped on tile inside of an enclosure. At the moment, we have one original hard drive in a 2007 Thinnkpad T61that is used as a media player, one original hard drive inside of a 2009 Dell something-or-other that gets used constantly for everything, and a hard drive from a 2008 Dell tower that died last summer and is waiting for an someone to buy an enclosure. The motherboard blew, but the drive still works. Our other past systems were sold off or given away, but all left with good drives.
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The 1 TB 7200 hard drive inside my imac late 2009 still works fine...I never used it for video editing-I use lacie external firewire for that...
which brings me to my question...I'm seriously thinking about getting a late 2015 imac 27 i7 with a 4 GB videocard.
I want to continue using my lacie hard drives (Lacie D2 with their own power supply)-I guess all I would need would be an adaptor from the thunderbolt to firewire so that the Lacie drives connect to the new imac? I only edit 1080p so far.
And about the internal drive of the new imac...I would never use it to edit videos- so would the 2TB fusion be just fine? or is the flash drive a MUST even if I will use external drives for editing? Those milliseconds in speed difference (for writing mostly it seems) can't possibly make such a huge difference, can they?
thanks for the help before I click on the order button..
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which brings me to my question...I'm seriously thinking about getting a late 2015 imac 27 i7 with a 4 GB videocard.
I want to continue using my lacie hard drives (Lacie D2 with their own power supply)-I guess all I would need would be an adaptor from the thunderbolt to firewire so that the Lacie drives connect to the new imac? I only edit 1080p so far.
And about the internal drive of the new imac...I would never use it to edit videos- so would the 2TB fusion be just fine? or is the flash drive a MUST even if I will use external drives for editing? Those milliseconds in speed difference (for writing mostly it seems) can't possibly make such a huge difference, can they?
thanks for the help before I click on the order button..
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That's a great deal, I got an external 500GB Samsung SSD, would love to get a 1TB when it's on sale eventually...
I agree with the mechanical drive in a sealed enclosure, I've had a HDD fail on me as well, luckily it was easy to replace, and an SSD took it's place.
I know quite a few people who've had their HDDs go, it's not about luck, it's physics. Moving parts will always wear quicker, some maybe last longer, also depends on the user and read/write cycles. SSDs aren't forever either, just a better, more durable solution that's worlds faster. To each their own... I've had flash USB drives go in the washer/dryer and come out working fine lol.
I personally have around 50 drives at my home at all time (around 20 spares). So my opinion with mechanical drive is not based on luck
Sounds like you need to take better care of your equipment, then!
Hard drives should last more than five years. Mine always have.
(posted from a 2010 iMac with original spinning drive!)
It is highly abnormal to have hard drives "fail rapidly" with regularity. Outside of my own personal experience (extensive), empirical test prove this. Something strange is going on over there.
I thought the same as you (use Fusion drive for storage/apps and externals for editing video). However once I got the 3TB fusion drive, I began seeing major problems in Premiere Pro (CS6). When editing a 15-minute 1080p video I had tons of dropped frames and playback would start and stop constantly. I tried using a Samsung Evo 850 + USB Enclosure and had the same issue. I believe these issues arise from inadequate latency and I/O power. The only way I can video edit correctly is if I use my pure 256gb SSD rMBPro from 2012 - unfortunately it seems only an internal SSD (or perhaps an SSD in a thunderbolt enclosure) is powerful enough for my usage.
Stop the presses! This guy just saved a s$*t ton of cash buying cheap ram and only 1 external drive that he is totally ashamed of!
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I just ordered the machine, with a 512 GB SSD
WHY should I have two external disks, I could easily use the external data disk for time machine backups of the internal SSD as well.
Are you aware that RAM in the 27 inch imac is user accessible? I just ordered it with 8 GB and then I ordered 16 GB extra ram at the cheapest webshop I could find...
I just ordered the machine, with a 512 GB SSD
The easiest solution would have been the 2 TB Fusion, but as you guys point out, it can't guarantee the stable fast performance.
I actually tried making my own fusion drive yesterday, on my old 2010 MBP with a 160 GB SSD +750 GB HDD, and while it worked fine (I could see with iostat that data was moved forward and back between HDD and SDD when using various files), it was also significant that the performance dropped a little, as soon as I the SSD was filled with files.
I think I can live with an external HDD in a closet or drawer, so it's just a single extra cable behind the computer
WHY should I have two external disks, I could easily use the external data disk for time machine backups of the internal SSD as well.
Are you aware that RAM in the 27 inch imac is user accessible? I just ordered it with 8 GB and then I ordered 16 GB extra ram at the cheapest webshop I could find...
At play is also the version of Premiere you are using. Adobe has made some improvements to the way clip playback is handled in CC 2015. I think we went over this in another thread.
I am able to preview 1080p video out of CC 2015 at as high as 1/2 resolution with zero skipped frames using a 2015 1TB Fusion iMac. I usually work at 1/4 resolution. So, with my less capable machine (1TB Fusion), I am able work with Canon h264 SLR files, which I think produces higher bit rate files than you were using, without issue.
A Fusion drive is very capable in use for video work. If this is a professional situation, SSD is probably the way to go, but for fun or as a hobbyist, Fusion drives are fine. Canon h264 SLR files render (from 1080p to 720p) in about 1.5 to 2 minutes per minute of footage with minor toning adjustments and sharpening applied to the project. I don't know how this compares to what a professional set-up would be, but it's fine for hobbyist work.
Have you had any issues with 3TB drives lately? I have a bunch of 1 and 2TB drives with a bazillion hard miles on them and no failures. But lately I've had 3TBers go wacky within 6 months time in service. Like stop responding. LaCie has taken 2 back on warranty, but they continue to offer 3TB models, which makes me think the problem is me.
I don't have anything that big. The last bare drive I bought was in 2011.
I am currently sitting, surrounded by three very old Windows machines that probably date back to 2006 or 2007, and all have their original hard drives inside. I know at least one has an IDE connector. Not even SATA. That's how old. They are used daily for RIPing plates used on an offset press, email, a networked Printer's Plan system, and for sending files to our digital press RIPs. None have failed after 8 years of continuous, daily use.
My work computer is about 6 years old (maybe even 7), its been on 24x7x365 and I've had zero problems with my HD. My experience is typical as well, as my co-workers all have computer of a similar age, and their results are the same, i.e., spinning hard drives appear to have a very long life span.
Just to clarify. I wouldnt use the fusion 2TB drive to store footage. Only apps and finished movies.
Hard to believe that a newer fusion drive would stutter with premiere.
Hard to believe that a newer fusion drive would stutter with premiere.