iPhone 3D Touch Broken Broken Broken

[AbSoluTc]

This is a two fold issue. I’m not sure what they did in 13 but I’ve noticed during my normal use of browsing the web, forums, scrolling things (apps), the lightest touch is activating preview, peek/pop, highlight, stuff that it never did before unless I intentionally pressed harder (I also feel the haptics activate all the time). I tend to rest my finger/thumb on the page when I scroll and this was never a problem.

Second, long standing issue that has never been resolved. Adjusting the sensitivity of 3D Touch from either Light - Medium - Firm , does nothing. It’s the same level! Same tiny pressure activates preview, peek/pop! It’s been this way for at least 2 years. Do I have to restart the phone or something? There is NO change between those settings. None.

 

[TheSkywalker77]

Welcome to iOS 13. I don’t get what they were thinking when developing this. 3D Touch was perfect until iOS 13, and even if they are removing it on the new iPhones, please don’t mess it up for the rest of us with 3D Touch phones. I don’t think a restart will fix this sadly.

 

[SoYoung]

iOS 13 as a whole is a mess. Welcome to iOS 11 all over again.

 

[Freakonomics101]

iOS 13 as a whole is a mess. Welcome to iOS 11 all over again.

And here we thought they learned their lesson when developing iOS 12. I remember iOS 12.0 b1 being more efficient than 11.4.1.

 

[C DM]

And here we thought they learned their lesson when developing iOS 12. I remember iOS 12.0 b1 being more efficient than 11.4.1.

In a sense it probably depends on what the new version entails--if it's more of an enhancement release mostly based on the previous one then it's more likely to be more stable and perhaps even better, while if it's a release that's changing things up (whether it's visually or under the hood), or even just rewriting various parts of the OS even if they aren't changing much one way or another, then there's likely more instability and potentially some performance gaps that can be in play.

 

[cmChimera]

I actually think Apple is underestimating the blowback from this change.

 

[cebixd]

Welcome to iOS 13. I don’t get what they were thinking when developing this. 3D Touch was perfect until iOS 13, and even if they are removing it on the new iPhones, please don’t mess it up for the rest of us with 3D Touch phones. I don’t think a restart will fix this sadly.

The reason I went back to iOS 12.4 before the official release

 

[AbSoluTc]

It’s a **** show.

 

[supergt]

Can someone please update the status of 3D touch on iOS13? Heard conflicting reports. Is it less responsive to touch sensitivity system wide? Can you 3D touch to clear notifications from lock screen?

 

[MingMao]

My iPhone X was just updated to 13GM. The default option is both hapic touch and 3d touch on, and no way to turn hapic touch off. The feedback of 3d touch is off (seems there is a small period of delay).
Right now i am trying to get use to the new system. But I am strongly considering not upgrading to ios 13 at all.

 

[gwhizkids]

Wow. Just wow! "Blowback", "not upgrading". Wow....

Never realized the cult-like following for this feature.

Think about it this way: Apple freed up space by removing the 3D touch-related innards (think of that nice 13% increase in battery time for the 11 Pro) and reduced the code-base by not forking this feature into the haves and have nots. Everyone gets the same feature.

There are very few features the removal of which would cause me to skip an iOS update. Maybe if they removed the phone or mail. But pretty much that's it.

 

[cmChimera]

Think about it this way: Apple freed up space by removing the 3D touch-related innards (think of that nice 13% increase in battery time for the 11 Pro) and reduced the code-base by not forking this feature into the haves and have nots. Everyone gets the same feature.

Everyone gets the same, objectively worse, feature. Sounds like everybody loses.

 

[C DM]

Apple freed up space by removing the 3D touch-related innards (think of that nice 13% increase in battery time for the 11 Pro)

Curious, has it been shown somewhere that removal of 3D Touch is directly linked to that battery increase?

 

[Zxxv]

Wow. Just wow! "Blowback", "not upgrading". Wow....

Never realized the cult-like following for this feature.

Think about it this way: Apple freed up space by removing the 3D touch-related innards (think of that nice 13% increase in battery time for the 11 Pro) and reduced the code-base by not forking this feature into the haves and have nots. Everyone gets the same feature.

There are very few features the removal of which would cause me to skip an iOS update. Maybe if they removed the phone or mail. But pretty much that's it.

And the added weight. Don’t forget the new iPhones gotten heavier

 

[gwhizkids]

Curious, has it been shown somewhere that removal of 3D Touch is directly linked to that battery increase?

Not that i am aware of, but that is probably just one of many reasons for removing the system. I just used that as an example of why they may have done it. I don't think Apple did this out of some malign intent to deprive small number of active power users of Peek and Pop of this functionality. I think they came up with a compromise system that will work in the best possible fashion for the greatest number going forward. Battery capacity, complexity, the possibility of full-screen touch ID have all been offered by pundits as reasons for removing the current system.

 

[Brenster]

Running iOS13 GM on an iPhone X here - 3D Touch is behaving as well as ever. Two places I usually use it; press into the keyboard in order to relocate the cursor when entering/editing text. This works as well as it ever has, I'm not noticing any real change in sensitivity.

Peek/pop on web links is the second. Again, I'm not seeing a real change in sensitivity. The new context menu for peek/pop is useful and is proving its worth.(attached screenshot)

So far iOS13 GM is working well enough on my iPhone X (multi-panel CarPlay, improved Photos & Health app), 3D Touch still supported that the calculus for upgrading to an 11 Pro has changed. The new cameras on the 11 Pro are seriously impressive, but do they warrant a £1K+ overlay over 20 months on iUP? Likewise the A13 is equally impressive but I'm hardly pushing the outer limits of the A11 in my current phone.

 

[C DM]

Not that i am aware of, but that is probably just one of many reasons for removing the system. I just used that as an example of why they may have done it. I don't think Apple did this out of some malign intent to deprive small number of active power users of Peek and Pop of this functionality. I think they came up with a compromise system that will work in the best possible fashion for the greatest number going forward. Battery capacity, complexity, the possibility of full-screen touch ID have all been offered by pundits as reasons for removing the current system.

I don’t think there was anything sinister behind it or anything like that, but chances are it was likely more basic than all that and just them making a call to keep things cheaper and simpler.

 

[gwhizkids]

I don’t think there was anything sinister behind it or anything like that, but chances are it was likely more basic than all that and just them making a call to keep things cheaper and simpler.

I think you are likely correct. There are lots of side benefits to keeping it simple.

 

[supergt]

Running iOS13 GM on an iPhone X here - 3D Touch is behaving as well as ever. Two places I usually use it; press into the keyboard in order to relocate the cursor when entering/editing text. This works as well as it ever has, I'm not noticing any real change in sensitivity.

Peek/pop on web links is the second. Again, I'm not seeing a real change in sensitivity. The new context menu for peek/pop is useful and is proving its worth.(attached screenshot)

So far iOS13 GM is working well enough on my iPhone X (multi-panel CarPlay, improved Photos & Health app), 3D Touch still supported that the calculus for upgrading to an 11 Pro has changed. The new cameras on the 11 Pro are seriously impressive, but do they warrant a £1K+ overlay over 20 months on iUP? Likewise the A13 is equally impressive but I'm hardly pushing the outer limits of the A11 in my current phone.

Thanks for this update. Any change in 3d touch functionality regarding notifications on lockscreen?

 

[SoYoung]

Wow. Just wow! "Blowback", "not upgrading". Wow....

Never realized the cult-like following for this feature.

Think about it this way: Apple freed up space by removing the 3D touch-related innards (think of that nice 13% increase in battery time for the 11 Pro) and reduced the code-base by not forking this feature into the haves and have nots. Everyone gets the same feature.

There are very few features the removal of which would cause me to skip an iOS update. Maybe if they removed the phone or mail. But pretty much that's it.

I have nothing against Apple deciding to cut 3D touch for new phones. Its their business, but I have a problem when they cut down a feature on phones that actually have the hardware to run it like iOS 12 and earlier. Yes 3D touch "works" partially in iOS 13, but its nowhere as responsive as it is now on current iOS 12,4,1.

Just for exemple, iPhone 6s users should have the 3d touch fonction for multitasking, it was a selling point when the bought the phone so Apple shouldn't cut this just because their new phone don't have it.

 

[Rhettski]

This is a two fold issue. I’m not sure what they did in 13 but I’ve noticed during my normal use of browsing the web, forums, scrolling things (apps), the lightest touch is activating preview, peek/pop, highlight, stuff that it never did before unless I intentionally pressed harder (I also feel the haptics activate all the time). I tend to rest my finger/thumb on the page when I scroll and this was never a problem.

Second, long standing issue that has never been resolved. Adjusting the sensitivity of 3D Touch from either Light - Medium - Firm , does nothing. It’s the same level! Same tiny pressure activates preview, peek/pop! It’s been this way for at least 2 years. Do I have to restart the phone or something? There is NO change between those settings. None.

Thanks for the warning! I have several phones including XS Max, and 3D Touch so important 4 me to properly play Roli Seaboard 5d synthesizer app (try it, it’s free). The pressure is a big deal with this for the music sounds to be expressive. Haptic won’t work right. Tried on an Xr and it’s no good.

Looks like I won’t be upgrading past os12 and iPhone XS... hope they bring 3d back. Seems ironic to call the new phone “pro” and take away feature I use professionally. Wish iPad pros had 3D Touch too

 

[Gsmaniac]

iPhone X iOS 13.1 Beta 3. Peek and pop no longer works for me. Works more like a long press of the XR.

 

[Rhettski]

iPhone X iOS 13.1 Beta 3. Peek and pop no longer works for me. Works more like a long press of the XR.

Thanks for the update info! Looks like I need to avoid iOS 13!!!

 

[Brenster]

Thanks for this update. Any change in 3d touch functionality regarding notifications on lockscreen?

Not that I’m seeing; everything seems to work as per iOS12. Long press in iOS13 works in the same way 3D Touch does, except 3D Touch’ing notifications works much quicker than a long press does. Some options are presented either way.

 

[blairh]

Is this seriously not a bug right now??? I can’t rest my thumb on the screen with safari open. This is absolutely unacceptable.